My point was obvious, but you chose to only read what you wanted to read.
Ovi can still shoot the puck. Eventually some will go in. It was crystal clear in my post
Will Ovechkin hit 20 goals this season?
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Ovi can still shoot the puck. Eventually some will go in. It was crystal clear in my post
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Probably. So what? Y'all are taking pot shots but the dude still looks slow and old out there. What do you know about it, either?I think Ovi knows more about "the global consensus" than you do.....
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Mick Riddleton
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Russian universities operate in terms of granting degrees, especially to famous Russians.I think Ovi knows more about "the global " than you do.....
Dr. Ovechkin? Alex Ovechkin is officially one step away from earning his PhD.
Hockey Hall of Famer, Stanley Cup champion, and doctor? Washington Capitals captain Alex Ovechkin is one step away from earning a new,…
Plagiarized dissertations are a big market in Russia, and most people don't really care if you did plagiarize it. PhD equivalents are pretty much a status symbol.
The topic of Ovechkin’s dissertation was “Comparative Analysis of Professional Hockey Training Methods in North America and Russia.” He presented his findings after studying the training methods of three Russian and North American schools. Ovechkin said that he received help writing his dissertation from “a good team”.
This is not exactly brain surgery and has nothing to do with the global consensus, it's a title he can use past his playing days.
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Hell Toupée!!!
they have little blue pills for that now
HabsCode
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He is gonna score next game, calling it now.
Makes you wonder how can he even sleep at night.
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Imaging handing someone that has not scored in 13 games 23:07 ice time at age 38,
Dude has 40% empty net goals. 3 proper goals in 27 games, and 1 of them was an empty net tap in goal.
Meaning he has beaten 2 goaltenders in 27 games averaging 20 minutes per game and playing all PP minutes.
Caps are really trying to force feed Ovechkin goals. I am not even sure how its possible to score that little with all those PP minutes and being handed pass after pass!
Is it not better for the Caps if they remove Ovi from the PP and let him play only on the 3rd line and keep his minutes at 13-14? Maybe he has more juice left that way as well!
Dude has 40% empty net goals. 3 proper goals in 27 games, and 1 of them was an empty net tap in goal.
Meaning he has beaten 2 goaltenders in 27 games averaging 20 minutes per game and playing all PP minutes.
Caps are really trying to force feed Ovechkin goals. I am not even sure how its possible to score that little with all those PP minutes and being handed pass after pass!
Is it not better for the Caps if they remove Ovi from the PP and let him play only on the 3rd line and keep his minutes at 13-14? Maybe he has more juice left that way as well!
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njdevils1982
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his PP minutes are empty calories anyways.....he just hovers around his office not spending much energy.....shit, even at even strength he circles around in the Dzone on his wing..... there was a play in the 3rd period tonight where he jumped the gun thinking there was a breakout only to give the opposing player a free lane right to the net and him out of position.
the more i see of him this season the more i think that this whole situation is a farce.
.....and 2! more seasons at 9.5M?
hey ovi, dignity called and it's looking for you
..sad to see as i loved his game over the years
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Gretzky played Jedi mind tricks on Ovechkin while they met for dinner during last offseason.
Telling Ovechkin that there was no need to continue scoring any goals.
Telling Ovechkin that there was no need to continue scoring any goals.
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It’s sad to see a franchise sacrifice their present and future success for one player and a record he might not even reach.
My take is athletes don’t leave millions of dollars on the table, and superstar NHL hockey players that spent their entire career with one team don’t have much of a history of burning them on their way out.
Sorry it wasn’t some extreme, agenda driven opinion and used some common sense.
Dude isn’t turning 65. His release quickness might go, but he is likely stronger than ever.
His main issue right now is he is just too slow to get to his spots to score. He’s still effective in his somewhat stationary spot as a cannon on the PP.
If this is the norm, and Ovechkin is a shell of himself from herein, does he hang em up or does he continue to limp towards the record books. What are the Caps thoughts on this? Do they just let him hang with prime top-line / 1st PP opportunities to the detriment of the team?
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Tell me a list of NHL superstar athletes that played their entire career with one team. Ovie is already an outlier there. Many NHL players end up bouncing around on your league minimum contracts at the end, or are traded mid career. The difference now is that contracts like Ovie's that are unique in hockey history for how much they're compensating players at the tail end of careers, and the option of the LTIR loophole to free the team of the cap hit without the player giving up the money.
Here's a list of notable early retirements in the NHL (mostly but not all injury related):
Roberto Luongo, Bobby Orr, Mike Bossy, Pavel Bure, Ilya Kovalchuk, Eric Lindros, Pat Lafontaine, Rick Dipietro, Ken Dryden, Hakan Loob, Cam Neely.
Here's a possible outcome, which is LTIR retirement: Chris Pronger, Voracek/Weber, Datsyuk, Hossa, Dave Bolland, Johan Franzen, Ryane Clowe, Henrik Zetterberg, Gaborik (I think) and many more.
And then there is the buyout option of which there are many examples.
Ovie may not retire early because he hasn't had injuries plaguing him like many above, and he may not get bought out because of loyalty from the org, but it would also be historical for a player to be earning $5m in salary at 9.5M in cap hit putting up 4th line points, which is likely in two years. So to say this is some obvious outcome or precedent is also wrong. I should amend my prior post which you sarcasm'd all over to: "he'll be at 4th line minutes and top line PP next year, and then he'll go on LTIR retirement or be bought out."
And because you asked, here are athletes that meet your exact criteria, superstars who played for one team and retired with money on the table:
Andrew Luck, Patrick Willis, Luke Kuechly, Gronk, Jim Brown, Calvin Johnson, Tiki Barber, Chris Borland, Buster Posey, Ken Griffey Jr., Mark McGwire, Sandy Koufax, Yao Ming, Eric Cantona, George Best, Zinedine Zidane, Alan Shearer, and I could keep googling but I think the point is made.
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Well, at league minimum, he could also be an empty net specialist if close to the record? I mean, if playing both PP and empty net situation and not much else, that could still be enough to 10-15 goals per season?
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It definitely looks like father time has come for Ovi, he's just slow and for the most part completely unnoticeable out there
Like others have mentioned, it’s worth noting he gets massive PP + EN time, too. At some point that has to decrease if he can’t score anymore. Unless you believe he will improve as the season goes on.
Once again, he has to go on a hot streak at some point. I think the Caps should limit his minutes to preserve him. How will he look next year, the year after?
Once again, he has to go on a hot streak at some point. I think the Caps should limit his minutes to preserve him. How will he look next year, the year after?
The problem is, it takes more time to setup the same shot power that came so quick and easy when he was younger.
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In interviews from this past off-season Ovechkin said he doesn't expect to break Gretzky's record.
He has a very 'I'll take it day by day' attitude
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Wow, that was a lot of words. You said nothing about injuries. Here is what you said
coooldude said:
My bet would be he plays next year, starts seeing 4th line minutes and PP minutes, scores another 10-15, maybe, and retires.
So thanks for amending that, it infers something completely different. Your list at the bottom doesn’t mention a single hockey player either, so I think it’s safe to say not only could you not think of an example, but you couldn’t even research one. It’s extremely common for star players, especially in hockey, to stay with one team. The examples are countless, but Mario is my favorite.
Great point, and feeding him on nights against slow footed teams where he can one time it will be effective as well. Pretty sure that’s how Brett Hull got his 700th goal.
True, probably will be very reliant on one timers as he ages.
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I think he's actually getting close to breaking out.
Whether that means something like 25 goals or 35+ goals this year I don't know. But they've got him closer to the net on the PP, and he looks less disinterested/frustrated. I'll say he scores in the next game.
Whether that means something like 25 goals or 35+ goals this year I don't know. But they've got him closer to the net on the PP, and he looks less disinterested/frustrated. I'll say he scores in the next game.
35 goals would mean 30 in the next 54 games assuming he plays 82. He has 5 in his last 33 games. I would be shocked if he gets 30 but could see him going on a heater to get 25.
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