Player Discussion Will Cuylle

[GoAwayPanarin]

His line has been our best line early on.

 

[bhamill]

I never had a problem with a little psychosis on the ice, especially if its on our side

A little is okay. Keeps everyone on their toes. Wilson is not. Hahahaha.

 

[Crease]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, he reminds me of Dubinsky.

 

[bleedblue94]

I absolutely love his game and his skating improved so much this summer. His feet are much quicker. His offense will come even more.

 

[Raspewtin]

he’s had a fantastic start to the season and has improved in pretty much everything

 

[noncents]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, he reminds me of Dubinsky.

machinehead says he's bad tho

 

[TheDirtyH]

I was really low on Cuylle's second half and playoffs, but he's been back to how he started last year, except better. Great to see!

 

[bl02]

His line has been our best line early on.

Honestly it's not even close. Just terrific stuff.

 

[Row I Goon]

5 hits v Habs - he’s skating well too and picking up points.

 

[jay from jersey]

Kids a beast and continues to get better. Building off a solid rookie campaign.
Don’t be surprised if he settles somewhere in the top 6 in the next 2-3 seasons.
Always finishes checks, goes to the right spot on the ice, and the puck seems to follow him. He is a quintessential “ make your own luck” type of player

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Nice start for him

 

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

machinehead says he's bad tho

Pretty good indication he's good then

 

[doomscroll]

Cuylle doesn’t seem to have the same playmaking/puck handling tools that Chytil and Kakko have on the third line (he made several pass attempts through the high slot against the Habs last night which were easily read and picked off) but his skating is a huge plus and he has a good stick, both of which (along with his size) keep him where the puck is in traffic. His offensive positioning has improved to the point where he could realistically serve as a mix between Kreider and Callahan with a lower offensive ceiling.

Even if he tops-out as a third line 15-goal energy guy, that’s a better return on investment for the Rangers than anyone could have hoped for four years ago. He was certainly an asset to the forward corps throughout the playoffs.

 

[noncents]

15 goal 3rd line energy guy who is a load on the forecheck and will punch your lights out is a great guy to have

 

[bhamill]

15 goal 3rd line energy guy who is a load on the forecheck and will punch your lights out is a great guy to have

I think you are erring on the side of caution.
13 goals as a rookie. Playing with guys who were not generating offense… With the right linemates (like 72-24 are playing right now) I see him as a perennial 20-25 goal scorer, 45-50 point guy who leads he team in hits.
Right now I see his line as our second line. I have no problem saying he’s already a middle sixer, rather than pure 3rd liner.
And lost in all this is he’s still just 22… he’s got more runway. His ceiling may be higher than we’ve been giving him credit for… power wingers take more time…

 

[noncents]

I think you are erring on the side of caution.
13 goals as a rookie. Playing with guys who were not generating offense… With the right linemates (like 72-24 are playing right now) I see him as a perennial 20-25 goal scorer, 45-50 point guy who leads he team in hits.
Right now I see his line as our second line. I have no problem saying he’s already a middle sixer, rather than pure 3rd liner.
And lost in all this is he’s still just 22… he’s got more runway. His ceiling may be higher than we’ve been giving him credit for… power wingers take more time…

you might be right. i just rather we lock him up to a 6 year deal as a 15 goal energy guy than as a 45-50 point middle 6 power winger.

 

[bhamill]

you might be right. i just rather we lock him up to a 6 year deal as a 15 goal energy guy than as a 45-50 point middle 6 power winger.

f*** yeah. I say sign him long term NOW.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

He has some limitations offensively but seems to do everything else well. Big, strong, can skate, forechecks well, cycles, goes to the net. If he can add PK'ing to his resume, he will evolve into one of those glue guys that every team needs. He has salvaged the Andersson mess.

 

[GAGLine]

f*** yeah. I say sign him long term NOW.

That assumes we have the cap space to give him a long-term deal. With everyone else we need to sign, that's far from a given.

 

[bhamill]

That assumes we have the cap space to give him a long-term deal. With everyone else we need to sign, that's far from a given.

Fair enough.

 

[SA16]

I think we should wait a bit longer than 6 games before signing him long term considering he ended last season with 5 points in 43 games. What is the rush?

 

[jay from jersey]

He’s

He has some limitations offensively but seems to do everything else well. Big, strong, can skate, forechecks well, cycles, goes to the net. If he can add PK'ing to his resume, he will evolve into one of those glue guys that every team needs. He has salvaged the Andersson mess

He has some limitations offensively but seems to do everything else well. Big, strong, can skate, forechecks well, cycles, goes to the net. If he can add PK'ing to his resume, he will evolve into one of those glue guys that every team needs. He has salvaged the Andersson mess.

Big time. His wrist shot is better then advertised.
He beats NHL goalies clean with it as well. I’d like to see him get in a position to use it more.

 

[bhamill]

I think we should wait a bit longer than 6 games before signing him long term considering he ended last season with 5 points in 43 games. What is the rush?

Well we are constantly saying we fail to lock players up while they are still cheap… heres that opportunity. Did he hit a rookie wall last year? Sure. Was he playing with centers that were offensive black holes? Sure.
It would be a gamble, but depending on the deal could be a huge steal. If we signed him say 6 years at 4m AAV (Chytil is at about 4.5) that could be a fantastic deal. And if he merely stays a 15 goal physical, defensively responsible, 3rd line winger it’s still not a killer of a deal. Especially with the cap rising.

I get that there is no rush, but IMO, waiting will just cost us cap space.

 

[GAGLine]

Well we are constantly saying we fail to lock players up while they are still cheap… heres that opportunity. Did he hit a rookie wall last year? Sure. Was he playing with centers that were offensive black holes? Sure.
It would be a gamble, but depending on the deal could be a huge steal. If we signed him say 6 years at 4m AAV (Chytil is at about 4.5) that could be a fantastic deal. And if he merely stays a 15 goal physical, defensively responsible, 3rd line winger it’s still not a killer of a deal. Especially with the cap rising.

I get that there is no rush, but IMO, waiting will just cost us cap space.

Jumping the gun will cost us cap space as well. The only difference is when. We either pay more now in the hopes we save later or save now and potentially pay more later. I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to this.

More often than not, we don't have a choice because we are too close to the cap to offer players longer-term deals. If you look at those deals that turn into bargains, most of them are signed when a team is terrible and has plenty of cap space. Teams that are perennial cup contenders don't typically have that luxury.

If we can move Trouba's full cap hit, maybe we can afford to give Cuylle a longer-term deal with a higher AAV that will one day be a bargain. Or maybe that extra cap space will go to re-signing Kakko instead, or to signing someone to replace Lindgren. More than likely, Cuylle will get a bridge deal and we'll be tight up against the cap yet again. It's just the reality of our situation.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Jumping the gun will cost us cap space as well. The only difference is when. We either pay more now in the hopes we save later or save now and potentially pay more later. I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to this.

More often than not, we don't have a choice because we are too close to the cap to offer players longer-term deals. If you look at those deals that turn into bargains, most of them are signed when a team is terrible and has plenty of cap space. Teams that are perennial cup contenders don't typically have that luxury.

If we can move Trouba's full cap hit, maybe we can afford to give Cuylle a longer-term deal with a higher AAV that will one day be a bargain. Or maybe that extra cap space will go to re-signing Kakko instead, or to signing someone to replace Lindgren. More than likely, Cuylle will get a bridge deal and we'll be tight up against the cap yet again. It's just the reality of our situation.

Shesty is a bit question mark.
If we sign guys without signing him, we could absolutely force the issue with him.