Will Atlanta Get Another Team?

[cheswick]

I mean, Macleans reported roughly 300 people showed up to the 'Save the Nords' rally in 1995. Lot of bad blood and mistrust by the time things get to that stage.

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They don't deserve a third shot either.

 

[BKIslandersFan]

maybe the Islanders should move to Georgia, then, based off the above response and forget about the New York tv contract or Belmont's redevelopment arena, BK

I always said New York area had too many teams. But if one team had to move to Georgia it really should be the Devils, not for any reason other than they can play Devil Went Down To Georgia when they score a goal.

 

[nhlfan79]

I always said New York area had too many teams. But if one team had to move to Georgia it really should be the Devils, not for any reason other than they can play Devil Went Down To Georgia when they score a goal.

Wow, that triggered a long lost memory...

 

[No Fun Shogun]

They don't deserve a third shot either.

Nobody deserves anything. All that matters is if there's a) an interested and wealthy owner willing to foot the bill and b) if the NHL is interested in putting a team in a given market.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

They don't deserve a third shot either.

What 3rd shot? a team that existed before the NHL was the NHL doesn't count, the Bulldogs don't count

 

[BKIslandersFan]

What 3rd shot? a team that existed before the NHL was the NHL doesn't count, the Bulldogs don't count

I think that was his point. That Quebec should get another team.

 

[cheswick]

What 3rd shot? a team that existed before the NHL was the NHL doesn't count, the Bulldogs don't count

The Quebec Bulldogs played in the NHL 1919-1920 then relocated to Hamilton. Quebec City is a two time loser of NHL teams just like Atlanta. Cities like Kansas City and Cleveland should get a second shot before cities get a third one.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The Quebec Bulldogs played in the NHL 1919-1920 then relocated to Hamilton. Quebec City is a two time loser of NHL teams just like Atlanta. Cities like Kansas City and Cleveland should get a second shot before cities get a third one.

The Bulldogs don't count, they just don't the NHL was barely the NHL at that point

 

[justafan22]

The Bulldogs don't count, they just don't the NHL was barely the NHL at that point

Hamilton's arena isn't NHL quality anymore

 

[HisIceness]

I always said New York area had too many teams. But if one team had to move to Georgia it really should be the Devils, not for any reason other than they can play Devil Went Down To Georgia when they score a goal.

Hmm, you make a good point here

 

[dkitson16]

The Bulldogs don't count, they just don't the NHL was barely the NHL at that point

The NHL of the 80's and 90's doesn't resemble the NHL now either. Business model and finances are completely different.

 

[Voight]

An AHL team, maybe.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

An AHL team, maybe.

not as long as Gwinnett/ Cobb County vis a vis the Braves and the existing Gladiators remain active, and if the reports are true to form, Atlanta has pro hockey as long as no lease issues, why would any NHL Team want to own or operate a team in Cobb County, never mind an AHL FRANCHISE?

 

[HisIceness]

not as long as Gwinnett/ Cobb County vis a vis the Braves and the existing Gladiators remain active, and if the reports are true to form, Atlanta has pro hockey as long as no lease issues, why would any NHL Team want to own or operate a team in Cobb County, never mind an AHL FRANCHISE?

If the AHL comes to Atlanta the ECHL team will either fold or relocate to somewhere like Birmingham or Greensboro. They will play at the Gwinnett County arena, no need to build an arena in Cobb.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

If the AHL comes to Atlanta the ECHL team will either fold or relocate to somewhere like Birmingham or Greensboro. They will play at the Gwinnett County arena, no need to build an arena in Cobb.

no, ice, Atlanta is the team name now is it not, it'll be an NHL Team buying the existing team, and frankly, it likely becomes an existing AHL club relocating, but as long as Gwinnett's arena remains and the Gladiators are actively the tenant of record as the leasee, just as is being proposed, there's not going to be another AHL Club as a) wouldn't that have happened by now and b) economically Infinite Arena would likely have to be upgraded the way the Budweiser Events Center was required to do when Colorado got 'promoted.'

it is highly doubtful Nashville would want to get into the owner/operations business as that's now become the modus operandi, in the AHL , AND BASED off the relationship they've had with Milwaukee, that has been relatively successful....

 

[HisIceness]

no, ice, Atlanta is the team name now is it not, it'll be an NHL Team buying the existing team, and frankly, it likely becomes an existing AHL club relocating, but as long as Gwinnett's arena remains and the Gladiators are actively the tenant of record as the leasee, just as is being proposed, there's not going to be another AHL Club as a) wouldn't that have happened by now and b) economically Infinite Arena would likely have to be upgraded the way the Budweiser Events Center was required to do when Colorado got 'promoted.'

it is highly doubtful Nashville would want to get into the owner/operations business as that's now become the modus operandi, in the AHL , AND BASED off the relationship they've had with Milwaukee, that has been relatively successful....

Thats what I'm saying Hutch.

The AHL Charlotte Checkers were purchased as the Albany River Rats by ECHL Checkers owner Michael Kahn. Thats what would happen here, someone in Atlanta or ties to Atlanta would buy an existing AHL team and move it to the Gwinnett arena while selling the ECHL club to another city.

I highly doubt lease regulations will matter much, it didn't matter in 2010 when the Checkers upgraded.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Thats what I'm saying Hutch.

The AHL Charlotte Checkers were purchased as the Albany River Rats by ECHL Checkers owner Michael Kahn. Thats what would happen here, someone in Atlanta or ties to Atlanta would buy an existing AHL team and move it to the Gwinnett arena while selling the ECHL club to another city.

I highly doubt lease regulations will matter much, it didn't matter in 2010 when the Checkers upgraded.

not quite, Charlotte wasn't bought that way, ice, the license had to be bought, the way that league operates now, you'd need an NHL club owning a franchise existing, and that's not economically happening in Gwinnett, you do realize Albany continued on past that transfer for just the above purpose, that's why Binghamton currently has a franchise because it's owned by the NHL Team now, and leased back to the operator, same with Utica, that's a 50/50 split....

the only way Atlanta metro gets a higher league franchise is it to be declared an open territory and local ownership, and/or an NHL Team willing to own a franchise and is wanting to go there, otherwise the Gladiators are the record of tenancy and the rule applies if the contract is agreed upon as has been reported, than Gwinnett/Atlanta is off limits similiar to what occurred with Alaska.... a transfer of territoty filing

 

[HisIceness]

I'm not guaranteeing it's going to happen, I'm simply stating that if it does, thats likely whats going to happen. The Gwinnett arena is fine as an AHL venue.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

I'm not guaranteeing it's going to happen, I'm simply stating that if it does, thats likely whats going to happen. The Gwinnett arena is fine as an AHL venue.

except it's not likely .

 

[HisIceness]

I wouldn't be surprised if it does.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

I wouldn't be surprised if it does.

who would own it then, I don't see Nashville bolting Milwaukee....

 

[nhlfan79]

who would own it then, I don't see Nashville bolting Milwaukee....

My little birdie recently implied to me that the Glads affiliation with the Bruins will end after this year and they'll link up with the Predators instead going forward. The Preds already seem to have a growing presence here, loaning several players to the team and actively promoting a Learn to Play Hockey program in the arena lobby itself.

Other than one board ad, there's very little indication on game nights that the Bruins are the current Glads' NHL affiliate.

 

[Centrum Hockey]

My little birdie recently implied to me that the Glads affiliation with the Bruins will end after this year and they'll link up with the Predators instead going forward. The Preds already seem to have a growing presence here, loaning several players to the team and actively promoting a Learn to Play Hockey program in the arena lobby itself.

Other than one board ad, there's very little indication on game nights that the Bruins are the current Glads' NHL affiliate.

did that birdie mention who the bruins where thinking about partnering with after Atlanta

 

[nhlfan79]

did that birdie mention who the bruins where thinking about partnering with after Atlanta

Nope.

 

[Dream Big]

I don't think the citizenship in Atlanta cares much for hockey. So I will say no to Atlanta getting another NHL team.

Just noticed that this evolved into getting an AHL team. That could happen.