AHL: Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins: '24-'25 The Players Sully Hates

[Gurglesons]

I don't see a discernible difference in that scenario. What has Gruden done exactly to earn that? I think they are both meh.

One is 24 and will return value if he produces.

 

[Jacob]

One is 24 and will return value if he produces.

A good coach would know how to dangle carrots in front of a 24 year old on a two-way deal to get him to play better.

 

[Fogel]

Anybody in WBS > Acciari just in terms of age, salary savings and potential value if they pan out. So almost any reason.

 

[Ryder71]

You guys are talking about a 4th line player who at most will get another cup of coffee at the NHL level. So, does it really matter? This organization has far bigger issues to manage. Again, this sort of thing changes nothing in this teams trajectory. Only if you're a family member of the players in question should this matter.

 

[Jacob]

It is a pretty small issue that really doesn't matter, and Acciari has been pretty good this year actually.

I just think that a good team should develop 4th liners from within rather than overpay for them in UFA. Your 4th line + extra forward should be less than $5 million total. Spend that money at positions more difficult to develop like top 6 or top 2 D pairings. If Gruden isn't cutting it you go to Poulin, then Pono, Katchouk, etc. until you find someone willing to do the work to stay in the NHL.

Once these lunch pail guys start having a family and making millions they kind of lose their effectiveness a bit.

 

[vodeni]

How hard is this to understand?

It is a pretty small issue that really doesn't matter, and Acciari has been pretty good this year actually.

I just think that a good team should develop 4th liners from within rather than overpay for them in UFA. Your 4th line + extra forward should be less than $5 million total. Spend that money at positions more difficult to develop like top 6 or top 2 D pairings. If Gruden isn't cutting it you go to Poulin, then Pono, Katchouk, etc. until you find someone willing to do the work to stay in the NHL.

Once these lunch pail guys start having a family and making millions they kind of lose their effectiveness a bit.

How hard is this to understand?

 

[Ryder71]

When we're a contender again and every dollar counts in filling out the roster for the post season this sort of thing should be brought up, but until that happens and again, it just doesn't matter.

 

[Ryder71]

How hard is this to understand?


How hard is this to understand?

How hard is it to understand not everyone agrees with that sentiment?

 

[Ryder71]

It is a pretty small issue that really doesn't matter, and Acciari has been pretty good this year actually.

100% agree with this. Acciari has been good for the role he's asked to do. PPL here just wanna hate on him because he's not a curtain jerker in the AHL. If we had to be mindful of every penny to fill out a roster that is playoff bound and needed to add a piece where by that extra small bit of cap space might matter, sure, THAT would make sense.

Also, if a player the caliber of Jon freakin Gruden is a 4th liner, how good are you really? lol

You're very likely a non playoff team in that scenario anyhow.

 

[cygnus47]

How hard is this to understand?


How hard is this to understand?

B-but if only I'd been given opportunities, I'd have gone from plug to cult hero. I'm the backbone of this team, they just can't see! If I was a coach I'd make sure I felt good so I could really shine! - Sully, Bylsma probably.

Yeah it's a thing that almost every team does to some degree. Team starts young with the understanding that they aren't yet developed players and no expectation that the team has to be complete, improves every year through the internal competition and team building and a couple key veterans, eventually they have some success. Now they have to stay there by filling up the roster with finished players because they're a 'veteran' team and not a 're-building' team.

 

[vodeni]

It’s about asset management. 4th line does not make much difference with overpaying vets vs. young cheap guys, abd you use the money for top 6 guys that will make difference, especially when you don’t have Sid and Geno that can’t carry average forwards , it sure what’s hard to get there

 

[HandshakeLine]

yinz are wasting your time arguing with a dementia patient.

 

[Mr. T]

Doesn't patient indicate some degree of medical care?

Half of the posters here should be wards of the state.

 

[The Old Master]

dementia patient.

I'm here!

 

[farscape1]

Thought this was a WBS thread?

 

[Rudy Russo]

WBS shutout by Toronto and Matt Murray. Yes, that former penguins player Matt Murray.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

WBS shutout by Toronto and Matt Murray. Yes, that former penguins player Matt Murray.

I only got to watch the second half of the game. Honestly not that much to report on.

 

[Turin]

WBS shutout by Toronto and Matt Murray. Yes, that former penguins player Matt Murray.

Team seems to run pretty hot and cold, especially offensively

 

[eXile3]

It feels like it’s either a high scoring win or a complete shutout.

 

[Ryder71]

They're letting everyone down.

 

[Ryder71]

Koivunen 1+1 WB wins 7-2 Boris K had three points I believe 1+2.