AHL: Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins: '24-'25 The Players Sully Hates

[Solution]

Kain Tisi intrigues me as a goalie coach. I know the Penguins hired a bunch of Leafs scouts and coaches as well but I do find it curious how the goalie coaching changes go on. Usually the goalie that becomes the #1 they will favour the voice he wants - Fleury had Bales, Murray had Buckley, then the Penguins promoted Chiodo to take over and now Tisi is the Goalie Coach/Developmental in WBS.

He came over in 2021-22, its hard to really read the impact they have - The goalies are all up and down in WBS, last year was one of the better seasons under TIsi mainly helping the goalies in WBS for 3yrs.

Meanwhile, Chiodo, I'm not sure what's up but its like our goalies have a strong start under him and then falter after the second half, this year being a different beast altogether.

I think that it was the Islanders when Barry Trotz came in as head coach, and he almost set up an entire hockey operations staff focused on goaltending. If I am remembering it correctly, he had a director of goalie development and then the coaches at each level as well as goalie development coaches and scouts just for goalies. That might be where this is going.

 

[Sike Mullivan]

It happens. For different reasons. See Chris Bourque or Martin Frk.

I was gonna say Alex Giroux or Janne Pesonen.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

The Jeff Taffe disrespect is unbelievable in here.

 

[eXile3]

I was gonna say Alex Giroux or Janne Pesonen.

Giroux is the first one I thought of. I remember when I lived on that side of the state he always looked like a world beater with Hershey.

 

[Sike Mullivan]

Giroux is the first one I thought of. I remember when I lived on that side of the state he always looked like a world beater with Hershey.

Insane he had a stretch 2 AHL seasons where he totaled 110 goals and 200 points in 138 games, and then ends his NHL career with 12 points.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Giroux definitely had a sneakily good shot.

 

[Jacob]

Most of those kinda guys got a lot of points on the PP at lower levels but aren’t going to bump anyone off the 1st unit on any NHL team.

Frk, Bemstrom, Sterling, etc.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I'm going to try watching the last two WBS games. One at at time. Mostly to watch McG.

McG taking some odd skating angles. Like, coulda shoulda sealed the opposition against the boards. Instead let them have an easy lane.

G getting some PK time.

Dollar store Tkachuk looking like a great signing. Poulin looking better than last season and he looked pretty decent then.

Koivunen is sneaky.

LHV has Garrett Wilson. Remember when GMJR said he was our answer to Tom Wilson? Lol.

G on the RW wall can't make the easy pass to get out of the zone. Basically passed it right to the other team.

Two really quick goals by LHV to start the 2nd. Can't really fault Ned but it is what it is.

Another terrible "clear" by McG. Like, why are you sending it to the other team in the middle of the ice?

McG and Ned almost big brained it on the PK to get Ansons a shortie.

McG with an o-zone entry and passes it to LHV just like his d-zone clears. I wonder if it's because he was RW? Probably not.

I'm going to stop watching after two periods instead of two games. Everyone but McG looked at least decent or not noticeable.

Could be "first" game jitters but, uhhh, this was not inspiring from McG. Probably the worst player on WBS through those two periods.

I don't think I'll watch his second game. But I think I'll be able to watch the WBS game this Saturday. He better be better.

 

[Solution]

I think that it was the Islanders when Barry Trotz came in as head coach, and he almost set up an entire hockey operations staff focused on goaltending. If I am remembering it correctly, he had a director of goalie development and then the coaches at each level as well as goalie development coaches and scouts just for goalies. That might be where this is going.

In reviewing the Penguins hockey operations chart, I see that each affiliate has a goalie coach as well as a director of goaltending under player development. Not knowing what each scout is responsible for, I only saw one former goalie (Gilles Meloche) listed there. So there might be some concentration on that position. Also, I saw Trent Mann listed as a player development and scouting advisor. I know that he used to be the head coach for the Hershy Bears so that is an interesting guy to have in the system.

Wilkes-Barre/Scranton plays Syracuse tonight and tomorrow. Wheeling plays Reading Saturday and Sunday.

 

[Turin]

I'm going to try watching the last two WBS games. One at at time. Mostly to watch McG.

McG taking some odd skating angles. Like, coulda shoulda sealed the opposition against the boards. Instead let them have an easy lane.

G getting some PK time.

Dollar store Tkachuk looking like a great signing. Poulin looking better than last season and he looked pretty decent then.

Koivunen is sneaky.

LHV has Garrett Wilson. Remember when GMJR said he was our answer to Tom Wilson? Lol.

G on the RW wall can't make the easy pass to get out of the zone. Basically passed it right to the other team.

Two really quick goals by LHV to start the 2nd. Can't really fault Ned but it is what it is.

Another terrible "clear" by McG. Like, why are you sending it to the other team in the middle of the ice?

McG and Ned almost big brained it on the PK to get Ansons a shortie.

McG with an o-zone entry and passes it to LHV just like his d-zone clears. I wonder if it's because he was RW? Probably not.

I'm going to stop watching after two periods instead of two games. Everyone but McG looked at least decent or not noticeable.

Could be "first" game jitters but, uhhh, this was not inspiring from McG. Probably the worst player on WBS through those two periods.

I don't think I'll watch his second game. But I think I'll be able to watch the WBS game this Saturday. He better be better.

He got embarrassed on a play in the NHL and got immediately sent down, his confidence is probably ass which is annoying since he had a good pre-season to build it up. Should have sent him down to begin with if you weren't going to keep him up.

 

[vikingGoalie]

I think that it was the Islanders when Barry Trotz came in as head coach, and he almost set up an entire hockey operations staff focused on goaltending. If I am remembering it correctly, he had a director of goalie development and then the coaches at each level as well as goalie development coaches and scouts just for goalies. That might be where this is going.

Barry Trotz has had the luxury of having, arguably, the best goalie coach on the planet in mitch korn. Mitch Korn has followed him where ever he goes, and you can see the result. Every goalie under him is improved

 

[eXile3]

I'm going to try watching the last two WBS games. One at at time. Mostly to watch McG.

McG taking some odd skating angles. Like, coulda shoulda sealed the opposition against the boards. Instead let them have an easy lane.

G getting some PK time.

Dollar store Tkachuk looking like a great signing. Poulin looking better than last season and he looked pretty decent then.

Koivunen is sneaky.

LHV has Garrett Wilson. Remember when GMJR said he was our answer to Tom Wilson? Lol.

G on the RW wall can't make the easy pass to get out of the zone. Basically passed it right to the other team.

Two really quick goals by LHV to start the 2nd. Can't really fault Ned but it is what it is.

Another terrible "clear" by McG. Like, why are you sending it to the other team in the middle of the ice?

McG and Ned almost big brained it on the PK to get Ansons a shortie.

McG with an o-zone entry and passes it to LHV just like his d-zone clears. I wonder if it's because he was RW? Probably not.

I'm going to stop watching after two periods instead of two games. Everyone but McG looked at least decent or not noticeable.

Could be "first" game jitters but, uhhh, this was not inspiring from McG. Probably the worst player on WBS through those two periods.

I don't think I'll watch his second game. But I think I'll be able to watch the WBS game this Saturday. He better be better.

Why is he even PKing? The power play ran through him on Michigan ,is he on the PP?

 

[Gurglesons]

Why is he even PKing? The power play ran through him on Michigan ,is he on the PP?

Because according to our coach if you aren't going to score 50 goals or 100 pts you aren't playing in the top six as young player!

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Why is he even PKing? The power play ran through him on Michigan ,is he on the PP?

Because our head coach is a f***ing moron and wants to make sure every player plays like he wants them to rather than what they're good at.

 

[eXile3]

Looks like McG on LW opposite of Poulin. Pickering also moved up to second pair.

 

[The Old Master]

Why is he even PKing? The power play ran through him on Michigan ,is he on the PP?

because you want very good skaters on the pk ... so what mg's weak spot? skating.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Why is he even PKing? The power play ran through him on Michigan ,is he on the PP?

I think he was on the second PP.

I'll watch the WBS game tomorrow night.

 

[Jacob]

J.D. Forrest is an assistant with Syracuse. Glad he landed on his feet, not his fault our prospect pool has been thin.

 

[Jacob]

Zero goals? Zero f***ing goals? f*** off.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Larsson has rebounded nicely after that atrocious first game. Hopefully Murashov can get games in more consistently. He has only played 1 so far

 

[Honour Over Glory]

WBS is better coached and somehow I am wasting my time watching the big club, I was watching some AHL games the last couple of days and it was nice to see teams actually putting in an effort all across the board.

I still like Larsson and think he should be up on the big club as the third goalie so they can put Jarry there in WBS and play some games and rotate with Murashov early and to work with Tisi, seems stupid to do what they’re doing right now when the season is still early and there’s time to get in games and still spread the games to Murashov and anyone else that goes there after a month of TJ there.

Still hoping McGroarty does well there, it’s nice to see Poulin have a hot start. He had such a shit show of a pre-season with bad penalties, I feel for the lad with the shit he’s gone through and just not finding his game when he is called up, I still think he should get a change of scenery but also holding out hope Kirk was the bloke he needed all along for his development.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

J.D. Forrest is an assistant with Syracuse. Glad he landed on his feet, not his fault our prospect pool has been thin.

Yeah exactly, I don’t think he did a bad job at all.

In Tim Benz article…

“In talking with coaches around the AHL this season, the sentiment they expressed the most was just the way J.D. Forrest and his staff had such a well-structured team despite certainly not having the depth to match their opposition over the long run.”

Tim Benz: Making sense of Mike Sullivan's reported AHL action plan for the Penguins' new GM

A Pittsburgh Penguins-related item we dropped into “First Call” last week has really stayed with me through the weekend. Tony Androckitis of Inside AHL Hockey posted these notes about the Penguins on both the NHL level in Pittsburgh and the AHL level in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton. • “There are big...

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That was in May of 2023 after they missed the playoffs, he had a very good season the next year. I am fine seeing Kevin Porter piss off though, I wish Brookbank went with Porter. MacDonald brought along Luukko with him and he has a lot of very good experience with development and coaching, but it’s unfortunate he had to keep Brookbank.

I think he will get another Head Coaching job soon, once the stink of trying to replicate Sullivan’s system with his changes wears off. JD did a great job with the Defense when he was with Vellucci and Handsy McPerv Donatelli. But back to Brookbank, I really was hoping they would part ways with him too because he’s also part of the problem with how the defense plays when they come up, which ironically is the way Sullivan’s system is on D and so is Quinn’s from NY & SJ.

This should sound familiar to all of us, the style:

A questionable hire by the Blackhawks in January 2019, Sheldon Brookbank hasn’t done the best job with the responsibilities he was given. The defense looks great on paper, but their system doesn’t work. Their tendencies leave the goaltender out to dry, such as overaggressive pinches that result in an odd-man chance against.

Could a change on the coaching staff help the Chicago Blackhawks?

Sheldon Brookbank is in charge of both the Blackhawks' defense and the penalty kill, both of which have been lacking. A questionable hire by the Blackhawks...

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Lol…

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Oops wrong thread.