Prospect Info: Wild Prospect Thread 2024-25
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Yurov might also be more of a mystery box than most prospects after their D+2 season, since he didn't get a chance to show what he can do in U20s or WHCs.
It hurts that Minnesota missed on a bunch of 2nd round picks and 1st round picks:
Lambos, Stramel weren't ranked. O'Rourke, Firstov (Jones was an OA). Even Khusnutdinov looks shaky as a top 6 guy and then you hope Lorenz, Haight, Ryder and Kumps all develop into players.
There were 3 teams with 6 names, 6 teams with 5 names and then Minnesota's group. So, in terms of top 100, Minnesota at best is 10th? They have dropped a bit.
Lambos, Stramel weren't ranked. O'Rourke, Firstov (Jones was an OA). Even Khusnutdinov looks shaky as a top 6 guy and then you hope Lorenz, Haight, Ryder and Kumps all develop into players.
There were 3 teams with 6 names, 6 teams with 5 names and then Minnesota's group. So, in terms of top 100, Minnesota at best is 10th? They have dropped a bit.
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I still have him as my #1 prospect and I really do believe in his upside, I just get why others would have him lower.
I'm just saying; they have swung and missed on a couple of guys so far that could have made an impact. I'm not seeing much from Lambos or Stramel. And O'Rourke didn't take that huge step forward that we had guessed. More so, Jones was a waste of a pick and so was Firstov.
Most goaltender picks are wasted picks. That's why they should be avoided in the 1st round for the most part. I personally never want a 1st round goaltender. Leave that risk for the 2nd and later.
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After the first article about NHL Draft Pick Probabilities (link) was released, there were some asking for something similar but with different player positions being separated to see if there are any differences there. That raised my interest, so I decided to use the same data
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Goalie success falls fastest and hardest in the 1st round, bounce back up in the 2nd and 3rd because guys fall from teams generally not wanting that risk. Those low odds from those few selections taken just never inspire confidence of success.
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Most goaltender picks are wasted picks. That's why they should be avoided in the 1st round for the most part. I personally never want a 1st round goaltender. Leave that risk for the 2nd and later.
NHL Draft Pick Probabilities By Position
After the first article about NHL Draft Pick Probabilities (link) was released, there were some asking for something similar but with different player positions being separated to see if there are any differences there. That raised my interest, so I decided to use the same datadobberprospects.com
Goalie success falls fastest and hardest in the 1st round, bounce back up in the 2nd and 3rd because guys fall from teams generally not wanting that risk. Those low odds from those few selections taken just never inspire confidence of success.
I wonder how much the 99 game cutoff skews things for goalie? Skaters get that done pretty easily in the 2 seasons. For a backup goalie that could be almost 4 full seasons worth of games.
World Junior Summer Showcase starts today with both US teams in action against Finland and Sweden. Buium, Kumpulainen, Kiviharju listed on the rosters with Heidt for Canada later on.
Edit: actually Kiviharju is not participating in this showcase. Soini is playing however to add to the list.
Edit: actually Kiviharju is not participating in this showcase. Soini is playing however to add to the list.
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This is a very good point, and I can't believe I didn't think of it, it's so important.
Another thing working against them here is the scarcity of jobs available. There are only 32 starting goalie jobs available at any given point in the NHL, with incumbents usually retaining their spots for a handful of years at a time, if not longer, and the average number of goalies drafted each year is 20 (source: Corey Pronman). Combining the incumbent issue with how long goalie develop times typically last, even if a goalie is good enough to make it, there's a big-enough-to-mention chance he won't meet the 99 game criteria until he's in his mid to late 20's.
Heidt (1C) vs Kumpulainen (1LW) and Soini (2RD) right now in the Summer Showcase. Kumpulainen just got a second assist on the PP after winning the draw.
Heidt looking good, had a nice one timer from range that the Finnish goalie just got over on, a couple of nice passes as well. Just had a sick assist on the PP as well, primary to Cristall.
Soini continues to impress me, he made a gamble play trying to carry out front of his own net that ended up in a chance against, but it was the attempt of a confident player and he otherwise looks very solid, twice now he has blocked a shot and gotten up into the ensuing rush.
Edit: Heidt finishes with 1G, 2 A, Kumpulainen with 2A, and Soini with 1G. Solid games for all 3, Soini was Finland's best defender today IMO (though the bar for that was uncharacteristically low today.)
Heidt looking good, had a nice one timer from range that the Finnish goalie just got over on, a couple of nice passes as well. Just had a sick assist on the PP as well, primary to Cristall.
Soini continues to impress me, he made a gamble play trying to carry out front of his own net that ended up in a chance against, but it was the attempt of a confident player and he otherwise looks very solid, twice now he has blocked a shot and gotten up into the ensuing rush.
Edit: Heidt finishes with 1G, 2 A, Kumpulainen with 2A, and Soini with 1G. Solid games for all 3, Soini was Finland's best defender today IMO (though the bar for that was uncharacteristically low today.)
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Good to hear. Like all three prospects. How big did Soini and Kumpu look, and were they physical?
Kumpulainen looks big and plays physical, skating seems much improved and he is getting a lot of puck touches in these games. The offensive skills (passing especially) aren’t fantastic but he gets the job done. Really reminds me of early JEE with a worse shot, he was battling with Dickinson all game and knocked him over a few times which is pretty impressive.
Soini looks smaller, but very solidly built and has shown a good mix of taking the body or making a good poke choke instead, his timing has been immaculate except for one time when Hagens blew by him, but he still recovered enough to get a stick lift on him before he could make a play. Cerebral player and the announcers have been complimenting him profusely.
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I hope they give the guy a legit chance to make the team. Not sure that we can rely on Bogosian to play more than 60ish games.
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Minnesota Wild Announces Roster for Fourth Annual Tom Kurvers Prospect Showcase | Minnesota Wild
SAINT PAUL, Minn. \- Minnesota Wild General Manager and President of Hockey Operations Bill Guerin today announced 27 players will participate in the fourth annual Tom Kurvers Prospect Showcase. Hosted this year by the St. Louis Blues at Centene Community Ice Center in Maryland Heights, Mo., the...
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SAINT PAUL, Minn. \- Minnesota Wild General Manager and President of Hockey Operations Bill Guerin today announced 27 players will participate in the fourth annual Tom Kurvers Prospect Showcase. Hosted this year by the St. Louis Blues at Centene Community Ice Center in Maryland Heights, Mo., the...
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Seems like he was listed as 6'2'' in the development camp roster as well. Even if a late growth spurt is in theory possible, surely someone would have noticed watching his games.
Minnesota Wild to Hold Development Camp July 9-11 at TRIA Rink | Minnesota Wild
SAINT PAUL, Minn. – Minnesota Wild President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Bill Guerin today announced the National Hockey League (NHL) club will hold a Development Camp for team prospects July 9-11 at TRIA Rink at Treasure Island Center in downtown Saint Paul. Iowa Wild coaches and...
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Apparently someone did notice.Seems like he was listed as 6'2'' in the development camp roster as well. Even if a late growth spurt is in theory possible, surely someone would have noticed watching his games.
Minnesota Wild to Hold Development Camp July 9-11 at TRIA Rink | Minnesota Wild
SAINT PAUL, Minn. – Minnesota Wild President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Bill Guerin today announced the National Hockey League (NHL) club will hold a Development Camp for team prospects July 9-11 at TRIA Rink at Treasure Island Center in downtown Saint Paul. Iowa Wild coaches and...
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I take Hockey Wilderness with a grain of salt, but that's definitely an interesting development if true.
Also, a little weird they said "top five" instead of "top six". Huh?
