Proposal: Wild-Islanders
- Thread starter iggy
- Start date
Nelson is 10 years older and entering the twilight of his career, Rossi is on an ELC and hasn't even entered his prime. Your expectation that Nelson will not decline due to age is naive, or disingenuous. Can't be bothered to figure out which.
Nelson would look great on this year’s Wild team but not at the expense of the names being mentioned in this thread currently on Minnesota’s roster.
AvatarAang
Registered User
- Jan 21, 2018
- 2,494
- 5,010
Not surprised the isles want to trade an unsigned player (Dobson) for someone with term (kaprisov)
Nobody wants to play for the isles unless you overpay them. I can’t think of one free agent that took a discount to sign with NYI
Uncle Lou is only able to sign bottom 6 players to lifetime contracts.
Nobody wants to play for the isles unless you overpay them. I can’t think of one free agent that took a discount to sign with NYI
Uncle Lou is only able to sign bottom 6 players to lifetime contracts.
Dobson is a restricted free agent. Lou usually gets those guys signed long term at fair or below market value.
- Dec 10, 2012
- 40,622
- 18,931
Because Rossi is already arguably as good as Nelson, is 10 years younger, is cheaper, and has actual team control for a few more years. It's a no brainer for the Wild to not make that trade. Nelson being from Minnesota is not as enticing as you seem to think it should be.
To be fair Dobson is probably Top 10D or close to it. He was 8th in Norris voting last year.
miscs75
Registered User
- Jul 2, 2014
- 6,535
- 6,113
Not without an overpayment in return that makes the Isles better overall.
Barsky
Registered User
- Jun 22, 2010
- 279
- 162
He absolutely will be if he isn't willing to re-sign and has told them that, which is an unsubstantiated rumour. Wouldn't be at all shocking if he's a Panarin 2.0
Barsky
Registered User
- Jun 22, 2010
- 279
- 162
Old expensive junk?? Nelson maybe, but Dobson is absolutely a treasure and not at all old, but as long as Faber is for real, which he looks to be so far, kinda makes Dobson moot
Might be directed towards the “Rossi for Nelson” offer, which was absurd, from another Isles fan. That poster made another offer elsewhere involving Nelson for a much younger 2C.
he hasn't told wild anything. stop freaking lying and making crap up. wild aren't dealing Kaprizov under any circumstances. You clearly don't know how Bill Guerin, especially how wild owner operates. Lol. That Chicago bullshit that was proven to not be true and made up. Kaprizov legit can't resign until next summer legally with since you can't sign extension until there's only 1 year left.
Barsky
Registered User
- Jun 22, 2010
- 279
- 162
Ah ok, gotcha. Well tbf, Rossi is tiny and has been rumoured to be on the block for a reason. He'll likely put up numbers, but given his size, a swap for Nelson seems reasonable if a team is looking for the much more physical game Nelson can bring, not to mention his sniping abilities. I could definitely see Guerin liking Nelson way more than a tiny, injury prone kid
Barsky
Registered User
- Jun 22, 2010
- 279
- 162
I'm not lying or making anything up, I said it's an unsubstantiated rumour, I didn't say it was a fact, what's your problem? Any GM in the league would deal him the second they get an inkling he won't re-sign and the more term left, the better the return. If you think he would just let Kap walk as a UFA, it might mean you don't know wtf you're talking about. And if you can't see the parallels between him and Bread man, it just confirms that is the case
the wild is going to do everything they can to resign him. Wild aren't trading him anytime soon. He will be dealt as a rental or walk. You have no idea who wild's owner is, clearly you don't. Wild's owner wants to win and spends big time and is preparing to go after bigtime free agent this upcoming summer. unsubstantiated rumor?? You mean one you're making up online? Let me make it clear, he's not getting dealt, no matter what fans of other teams like you think.
Barsky
Registered User
- Jun 22, 2010
- 279
- 162
You don't know that for certain, Leipold has admitted publicly that he isn't certain they can convince him to stay. I imagine he will sign there long term, but never assume anything, especially with Russian wingers, lol. No one foresaw the Hawks dumping Bread man when they did
Nelson doesnt get Rossi straight up and wild can chase Nelson as a free agent this summer and use Rossi to get better at another position if he's not resigned or kept. lol.. A free agent to be and at that age doesn't get a 1c like Rossi , or a breakout young player dating back to last year
he also says they will offer him everything, literally every single millions and every single years. lol, wild owner is not one that just speaks. He also spends which I am sure Kaprizov knows off. Kaprizov isn't like any other Russians. Stop speaking bad about what he's just because he's a Russian. Wild probably have a sense he's staying which is why they are going after they big fish in the water in Boeser, and Nelson this upcoming free agency
Barsky
Registered User
- Jun 22, 2010
- 279
- 162
Straight up, no, but it's the bones of a deal if Guerin's decides they're in go mode this year, which I don't expect is the case. Rossi may be a decent 1C eventually, but at his size, I would think a 2C is more realistic, in any case, of course Lou would have to add. Claiming Kap is unlike any other Russian is kinda laughable and reeks of homerism, what are you basing that on? That said, I absolutely agree Nelson as a UFA target next year is far more realistic than a trade for him now. I know Leipold doesn't talk out of his ass and I fully expect they'll back up a Brinks truck to Kap's door, but Minneapolis isn't exactly Fort Lauderdale or Vegas, so you never know. No tax states can offer more take home money, it's an issue every fanbase outside Texas, Nevada and Florida have to accept
Barsky
Registered User
- Jun 22, 2010
- 279
- 162
Easy now, Rossi isn't coming off 3 years of goals in the mid thirties and Brock takes shit's bigger than him, a lot of us do. Maybe you're underestimating how much a guy like Guerin would value a physical goal scorer's game, cause that's exactly what he was. I'm from Ottawa btw, so I've been watching Marco for longer than you have been in all likelihood
Ehhh... a Russian like Kaprizov would be open to playing in the greater NYC area with it's large Russian population. Playing on a line with Barzal wouldn't be the worst thing, either. While I don't think that NYI is a top choice for players right now because of how far away they are from being Cup contenders, the location definitely have some appeal. LI is an underrated place to live... nice country, great beaches, centrally located to NA and Europe, and right next to one of the most interesting cities in the world.
Let's not pretend that it is Winnipeg or Buffalo.
- Dec 10, 2012
- 40,622
- 18,931
