Why is Holl still in the lineup??

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Jesus f***ing Christ man. What does Keefe see in this guy??? Especially with the abundance of Defenseman currently on the team and all of them are ready to go.

It absolutely boggles my mind.

Serviceable guy who has decent results on a great contract in tough minutes?

Guy was an absolute rock when we ran into those injuries the first half.

He's getting older and less consistant but there's a real cult of hating on him for sure. With the D bolstered lately, he'll be counted on less but he's been a plus to this team overall during his time here.
 
Serviceable guy who has decent results on a great contract in tough minutes?

Guy was an absolute rock when we ran into those injuries the first half.

He's getting older and less consistant but there's a real cult of hating on him for sure. With the D bolstered lately, he'll be counted on less but he's been a plus to this team overall during his time here.

Exactly. We know when he's paired with a better partner he can help fill in usage during tougher minutes.

Some guys that folks want to play ahead of Holl have in sort only looked better because they often get way easier minutes.

He's already going to start being used less. Imo he's fine coming in and out of the lineup moving forward this season
 
Exactly. We know when he's paired with a better partner he can help fill in usage during tougher minutes.

Some guys that folks want to play ahead of Holl have in sort only looked better because they often get way easier minutes.

He's already going to start being used less. Imo he's fine coming in and out of the lineup moving forward this season

Going to be seeing some heavy rotating of all the pairings before the playoffs to see which 7 we run with.
 
He's here to win to block shots, cut shooting angles and play the body at times

Sometimes he forgets he's a 2nd round pick that took like 9 years to make the NHL for a reason. Thinks he's way to skilled and tries to skate the puck and make transition plays which burns him, his partner or the team

He's a avg #5D who we've had to rely on more due to Muzzins decline and then injury

Gustafson and him to me are the same value but polar opposite players when both are on

Both can be great 5D who can play some time on a 2nd pairing with a better partner and good defensive/offensive support players.

We move on from both anything by summer
 
If Keefe likes him so much, why was he in the press box to start the playoffs last year? Is he better this year?

He’s depth.
 
who cares. with Jesus in the line up we arent winning with how the top line played last night.
 
Didn't see all of the last game, but saw Holl show some heart at least when most of the team didn't look like they cared.

Holl has been up and down, but did I miss something last game?
 
Yeah he lost a fight to Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. What does that tell you?

Absolutely nothing? I'm more worried about him showing effort if no one else is. I wouldn't take him out of the game if he showed up and others didn't.

It’s f***ing disgusting. It’s making me hate keefe and this team. I cannot watch anymore of this bs

See you next game
 
Didn't see all of the last game, but saw Holl show some heart at least when most of the team didn't look like they cared.

Holl has been up and down, but did I miss something last game?

He started showing heart 15 mins into the second period when we were already down by 3.

Maybe if he did so from the gun I'd agree with you
 
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