Why don’t people like Mackinnon?

[kerrabria]

People think he's a hard ass, too intense, etc. Weak people don't like him basically.

Strong, secure people don't demand an extra $100k AAV just to be the highest paid player in the league.

 

[Ceremony]

The other thing is his attitude just comes across as totally unfriendly. You could say the same thing about Draisaitl or Kucherov at times. Here's a good example from last night. You just won the game, they're trying to set up a funny question and maybe get a good sound bite...

Batted away Biznasty's stupid question. Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

 

[landy]

Strong, secure people don't demand an extra $100k AAV just to be the highest paid player in the league.

You actually have that backwards of what secure attachment styles are.

Individuals with a secure attachment style generally like accolades and accomplishments. They tend to have a positive view of themselves and others, fostering a sense of confidence and self-worth. This leads them to pursue goals and celebrate successes, both their own and those of others.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Positive self-view:
  Securely attached individuals have a positive self-concept, believing in their abilities and worth. This positive self-view allows them to embrace challenges and celebrate achievements.
  
  
• Confidence and self-esteem:
  Secure attachment promotes a sense of confidence and self-esteem, which is a crucial foundation for pursuing goals and achieving success.
  
  
• Focus on growth and development:
  Securely attached individuals tend to be more focused on personal growth and development, which often leads to a desire for recognition and achievement.
  
  
• Healthy relationships:
  Secure attachment also promotes healthy relationships, where individuals feel comfortable supporting and celebrating each other's accomplishments.
  
  

 

[Ceremony]

Oh, hold on

I also don't like MacKinnon. I've always thought he was very overrated. He's probably the best NHL example of the type of athlete I don't like. And it pretty much starts and ends with: he's dumb.

Then there's his pyschopathy. I myself went on a year's long fitness, diet, and wellness transformation, and I became a zealot by the end of it. But I didn't force my beliefs on other people like how MacKinnon banned his teammates from eating foods. It doesn't take a genius to understand that what works for one person might make another miserable, and throw off their game. But MacKinnon is a known psycho who domineers and freaks out on teammates--including young guys--when they make mistakes in practice or generally don't live up to his specific standards.

Also, the $12.6m thing was lame as shit.

I agree with your comments on his play style (and the others who've said he stickhandles too much - 30 stickhandles as he gets into the zone, pulls up and gets stripped, whoops! it gets old quick) but this last part is total nonsense. All of it. And your other posts about his salary - were you in the room for the negotiations? Did you see literally any response from him whenever he was asked about what his new contract would be?

 

[landy]

Batted away Biznasty's stupid question. Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

lol what we he supposed to say? "Yeah that was really funny, made me laugh while we got out shit pounded."

That was a dumb question.

 

[Melkor]

Nothing against MacKinnon, he's actually an enjoyable player to watch, just the pattern from Canadian media last year to push him down everyone's throats and convince that he's the MVP may have rubbed some people the wrong way

 

[kerrabria]

You actually have that backwards of what secure attachment styles are.

Individuals with a secure attachment style generally like accolades and accomplishments. They tend to have a positive view of themselves and others, fostering a sense of confidence and self-worth. This leads them to pursue goals and celebrate successes, both their own and those of others.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Positive self-view:
  Securely attached individuals have a positive self-concept, believing in their abilities and worth. This positive self-view allows them to embrace challenges and celebrate achievements.
  
  
• Confidence and self-esteem:
  Secure attachment promotes a sense of confidence and self-esteem, which is a crucial foundation for pursuing goals and achieving success.
  
  
• Focus on growth and development:
  Securely attached individuals tend to be more focused on personal growth and development, which often leads to a desire for recognition and achievement.
  
  
• Healthy relationships:
  Secure attachment also promotes healthy relationships, where individuals feel comfortable supporting and celebrating each other's accomplishments.
  

1) You can't categorize a human's entire emotional being into one of four quadrants.
2) It's extremely cringe to be the highest paid player by technicality. It'd be one thing if he got $13m, or even $12.75m. But the $12.6m was so clearly just to one-up McDavid.

 

[kerrabria]

this last part is total nonsense. All of it. And your other posts about his salary - were you in the room for the negotiations? Did you see literally any response from him whenever he was asked about what his new contract would be?

No it isn't. Just google "MacKinnon, teammates, practice, diet." You'll see.
As for the salary, it speaks for itself. You can't possibly think they just magically settled on exactly $100k more than McDavid coincidentally. Especially when he publicly wanted to be the highest paid player in the league. Link

When Matthews and Draisaitl set the bar, they didn't go for $12.7 and $12.8.

 

[landy]

1) You can't categorize a human's entire emotional being into one of four quadrants.
2) It's extremely cringe to be the highest paid player by technicality. It'd be one thing if he got $13m, or even $12.75m. But the $12.6m was so clearly just to one-up McDavid.

Im giving you the literal definition of a "secure" attachment style.

The majority of us have one of the 3 insecure styles and that is fine. Again, you are complaining about a guy who wanted recognition for being the best at the time. Sounds like a you problem, vs his insecurities.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Love MacKinnon - he's definitely a bit of a hot head but I think it's put into the right ways.

 

[kerrabria]

Im giving you the literal definition of a "secure" attachment style.

The majority of us have one of the 3 insecure styles and that is fine. Again, you are complaining about a guy who wanted recognition for being the best at the time. Sounds like a you problem, vs his insecurities.

And I'm telling you that there's no such thing as an "attachment style."
And regardless, even if he was the best at the time (he wasn't), he went about getting the contract in the lamest way possible. He literally just one-upped McDavid. Didn't actually try to get the AAV he thought the best player in the league should receive. Didn't go for market value. Just the one-up.

 

[Kegs]

I <3 Mackinnon

 

[DownIsTheNewUp]

Batted away Biznasty's stupid question. Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

Well I keep hearing people complain that "The NHL doesn't market their star players enough!" I don't love Biz but it's his job to try and make player interviews from some of the most dry individuals in the world be somewhat entertaining. It was a silly softball setup question for Mack to just about say anything to give fans a chuckle and instead he goes full FU mode and shuts it down because I guess his full focus is on the playoff series and can't distract from that and take two seconds for a laugh.

 

[K1900L]

Players do like him, see the Ted Lindsay nomination. He is certainly the most liked 'big 4' forward (Kucherov, McDavid, Draisaitl, MacKinnon). Canadian, no scandals, relatively quiet, insane work ethic, shows up most of the time, has got his cup, doesn't hurt anyone.
This being said, it's the media and fans that can create a negative image of a player simply by non-stop talking about them, which is not the player's fault. In MacKinnon's case: the comparisons with the other 'big 4' forwards, the MVP talk over the past years, a thread on here which claimed him to be superior to McDavid etc. Some people don't like this and project it onto the player himself.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

I expected many things in this thread, but I never expected "Mackinnon is dumb".

 

[Ceremony]

No it isn't. Just google "MacKinnon, teammates, practice, diet." You'll see.
As for the salary, it speaks for itself. You can't possibly think they just magically settled on exactly $100k more than McDavid coincidentally. Especially when he publicly wanted to be the highest paid player in the league. Link

When Matthews and Draisaitl set the bar, they didn't go for $12.7 and $12.8.

Yes, I've read the articles and seen the memes. Have you?

Your view of MacKinnon's treatment of his teammates seems to be based on a translated interview from a Russian media source. That could never be exaggerated or inaccurate, could it? Incidentally, the same source of that interview says he'd rather have MacKinnon than McDavid or Matthews because he's a winner: 'He's a winner': Zadorov takes MacKinnon over McDavid, Matthews

As for the contract, MacKinnon had been very underpaid relative to his performance for several years before signing his new one. His cap hit went from 6.3 million to 12.6. It was doubled. That's literally it. You're reading far too much into it to say it was one-upmanship over anyone else. I guarantee you he's not interested in what anyone else makes, especially not on other teams. When Matthews and Draisaitl signed those deals they got a lot more than the next comparable contract (and Matthews subsequently handcuffed the Leafs for years) so I really don't think you can hold this against him.

 

[Ceremony]

Well I keep hearing people complain that "The NHL doesn't market their star players enough!" I don't love Biz but it's his job to try and make player interviews from some of the most dry individuals in the world be somewhat entertaining. It was a silly softball setup question for Mack to just about say anything to give fans a chuckle and instead he goes full FU mode and shuts it down because I guess his full focus is on the playoff series and can't distract from that and take two seconds for a laugh.

tbf it's not just this he hates, half the time when he's named to the three stars in a home game he doesn't come out to wave to the fans.

 

[KeyserSoze81]

In a world full of spoiled, tone-deaf, and cringe-inducing NHL athletes, he stands out as one of the worst personalities. Hockey lends itself to these people, unfortunately - old money is needed to bankroll youth hockey, and the best athletes are often the best throughout their lives. Absolutely unbearable people to be around. The fact that Mackinnon stands out among this group kinda answers the question.

 

[DownIsTheNewUp]

tbf it's not just this he hates, half the time when he's named to the three stars in a home game he doesn't come out to wave to the fans.

Haha, geez

 

[JFedol]

He has a weird obsession with Crosby IMO and there's a solid bunch of Avs fans who genuinely think he's the best player in the world lol.

Sucks what McDavid is going through injury wise these past few years, it should be around 7 rosses right now lmao. Mackinnon realistically shouldn't have a Hart if were gonna be truthfully honest.

Injuries are apart of the game unfortunately

 

[a mangy Meowth]

there's a solid bunch of Avs fans who genuinely think he's the best player in the world lol

So false really. You wish it was true for whatever reason

 

[frisco]

You actually have that backwards of what secure attachment styles are.

Individuals with a secure attachment style generally like accolades and accomplishments. They tend to have a positive view of themselves and others, fostering a sense of confidence and self-worth. This leads them to pursue goals and celebrate successes, both their own and those of others.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Positive self-view:
  Securely attached individuals have a positive self-concept, believing in their abilities and worth. This positive self-view allows them to embrace challenges and celebrate achievements.
  
  
• Confidence and self-esteem:
  Secure attachment promotes a sense of confidence and self-esteem, which is a crucial foundation for pursuing goals and achieving success.
  
  
• Focus on growth and development:
  Securely attached individuals tend to be more focused on personal growth and development, which often leads to a desire for recognition and achievement.
  
  
• Healthy relationships:
  Secure attachment also promotes healthy relationships, where individuals feel comfortable supporting and celebrating each other's accomplishments.
  

Thanks, GROK!

My Best-Carey

 

[al secord]

This guy's a real jerk

 

[Ceremony]

He has a weird obsession with Crosby IMO

Probably fair but there are worse role models and I don't see what's so bad about it.

and there's a solid bunch of Avs fans who genuinely think he's the best player in the world lol.

Morons. It's obviously Makar.

Sucks what McDavid is going through injury wise these past few years, it should be around 7 rosses right now lmao.

Good for him. How is that relevant?

Mackinnon realistically shouldn't have a Hart if were gonna be truthfully honest.

You're right, he should have three.

Injuries are apart of the game

Yes they are. And?

 

[RevengeOfTheDrai]

I like his style of play but some of the plays he tries to make are just frustrating to watch. Sometimes he tries to do everything himself which results in low IQ hockey.