Why a Zach Hyman - Toronto extension, isn't a closed door, and may still even be likely.

[Cor]

Based on reports, Zach Hyman is likely looking at a 6 year deal, somewhere in the 5.5M range. James Mirtle on the Leaf report says Hyman won't get 6, but it'll be more than 5, and likely around 5.5, so for simplicity, let us use that 5.5M number.
5.5M x 6 years is a total of 33 million.

Now we know Zach Hyman's history. He's from the GTA, he pretty much forced his way to the Leafs after he was done college, and I believe it was mentioned that he has a newborn, or his wife is pregnant, not sure which.

So, Zach Hyman, who recently turned 29 years of age, on a 6 would deal, would take him until he was 35 years of age. A player like Hyman, by the time he's that age, will likely be in the Wayne Simmonds territory of taking 1M or less deals.

So in the case of Zach Hyman and the Toronto Maple Leafs, who both want to keep the business relationship going, there is a route for an extension.

It doesn't even take a hometown discount for Zach Hyman to get it done either. Let's take that previously speculated 6 years at 5.5M for a total of 33 million, and let's do what no other team in the league is able to do, and tag on an extra 2 seasons, at a value of 1.5M per season.

That brings us to a total of 8 years, and 36 million. The deal would be the typical structure of being front loaded, and heavy bonuses at the beginning. This does 2 things.

1. Bonuses don't get tied up in Escrow, so it puts more money into Hyman's pocket.
2. It makes the contract trade friendly, if needed, at the tail end of the contract
3. If Hyman makes it through the 6 years, the Leafs could buy out the final 2 years, at minimum penalty, due to the structuring of the contract.

For Hyman? He gets his 33 million - 6 year contract, from the Leafs. Gets a favorable structure in terms of signing bonuses. He also gets a guaranteed extra 3M from the Leafs in a spot of his career where he may not be guaranteed that. No hometown discount. No leaving money on the table.

For the Leafs? You get Zach Hyman, who has been the heart of the team for quite a while, at a very workable AAV of 4.5M per season. You protect yourself by making the back end of the deal easily tradable or buy out able. Which is important for a player like Hyman.

Now, if Zach Hyman wanted to give the Leafs a tiny discount, and let's say do the 33 million over 8 years, that would be an AAV of 4.125M. 31 million? 3.875M. 30 million? 3.75M

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[Duffman955]

Confirmed with link?

Wheres the link?

 

[Cor]

Confirmed with link?

Wheres the link?

Woops lol

 

[capfit9]

is Hyman better than RNH ?

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I'd be fine with a 7 or 8 year deal to get his cap hit down. This is a great player and I think we're going to be talking about how soft we are all year if he leaves. Who cares about the final 2-3 years of his deal

 

[OVO16]

I like Hyman. I really do. But its not the end of the world if we lose him. He's another guy who I thought would be physical in the playoffs but just didn't make that impact for us.

I absolutely would not overpay to keep hyman. You can find players to replace what he does at half the price.

 

[Gallagbi]

The more I look at any Hynan deal the more it scares me at any cost aside from a ridiculous hometown deal (3.5 or less territory).

I love the guy, but he's been noticeably hurt in 2 of the last 3 playoffs and has to put himself in vulnerable spots yo play his game.

 

[IPS]

5.5 x 6? Wtf is this garbage?

Why can't we just negotiate him into a Tyler Toffoli like contract (should honestly be a little cheaper).

 

[666]

Leaf Nation has lost its mind. First getting rid of Marner now keeping Hands. You people are insane.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Great soldier for us (one of the few) but at 29, looking for a long-term deal, and a new look required with this team, it's time to move on

 

[egd27]

5.5M x 6 years is a total of 36 million.

Actually, it's not.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Based on reports, Zach Hyman is likely looking at a 6 year deal, somewhere in the 5.5M range. James Mirtle on the Leaf report says Hyman won't get 6, but it'll be more than 5, and likely around 5.5, so for simplicity, let us use that 5.5M number.
5.5M x 6 years is a total of 36 million.

Now we know Zach Hyman's history. He's from the GTA, he pretty much forced his way to the Leafs after he was done college, and I believe it was mentioned that he has a newborn, or his wife is pregnant, not sure which.

So, Zach Hyman, who recently turned 29 years of age, on a 6 would deal, would take him until he was 35 years of age. A player like Hyman, by the time he's that age, will likely be in the Wayne Simmonds territory of taking 1M or less deals.

So in the case of Zach Hyman and the Toronto Maple Leafs, who both want to keep the business relationship going, there is a route for an extension.

It doesn't even take a hometown discount for Zach Hyman to get it done either. Let's take that previously speculated 6 years at 5.5M for a total of 36 million, and let's do what no other team in the league is able to do, and tag on an extra 2 seasons, at a value of 1M per season.

That brings us to a total of 8 years, and 38 million. The deal would be the typical structure of being front loaded, and heavy bonuses at the beginning. This does 2 things.

1. Bonuses don't get tied up in Escrow, so it puts more money into Hyman's pocket.
2. It makes the contract trade friendly, if needed, at the tail end of the contract
3. If Hyman makes it through the 6 years, the Leafs could buy out the final 2 years, at minimum penalty, due to the structuring of the contract.

For Hyman? He gets his 36 million - 6 year contract, from the Leafs. Gets a favorable structure in terms of signing bonuses. He also gets a guaranteed extra 2-3M from the Leafs in a spot of his career where he may not be guaranteed that. No hometown discount. No leaving money on the table.

For the Leafs? You get Zach Hyman, who has been the heart of the team for quite a while, at a very workable AAV of 4.75M per season. You protect yourself by making the back end of the deal easily tradable or buy out able. Which is important for a player like Hyman.

Now, if Zach Hyman wanted to give the Leafs a tiny discount, and let's say do the 36 million over 8 years, that would be an AAV of 4.5M. 34 million? 4.25M. 32 million? 4M

Your analysis is very good .. I have heard 4.5M for 8 years gets it done with heavy bonuses up front .. again this is in Leafs mgmt court now .. be interesting to see what they decide

 

[Twine Tickler]

is Hyman better than RNH ?

BINGO

I mean if I had the choice of the 2 players I personally would take Hyman, but then again I am completely biased. Its hard to compare the 2 because they play such different styles, but you've got to like the price point for RNH over 8 years. You just cant tell me Hyman gets more than that. 8 years its a touch scary for a 29 year old who plays the way Zach does, but if they were to go 8 years you'd have to think the AAV is south of 5. More likely the 4.5 range

 

[Clark4Ever]

If the contract is structured in such a way that it would be easy to move or orchestrate a buyout after the first few years, I'd be ok with going long term to keep the AAV closer to 4 million.

 

[Pinto]

We really need to stop overpaying for players like this. For once, we got the player during his cheap/effective years, let someone else make the mistake this time.

I love Hyman as much as anyone here, but I’m sorry, any talk of over 4.5 at 6, 7, 8 years is absolutely ludicrous.

 

[WTFMAN99]

What is the obsession in keeping this crap team together?

Stop

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

It would be insanity to sign him for that much money. And I bet his knee is ruined now after the Edler hit. Seeya Zach, you were awesome.

 

[Ciao]

I would be fine with a bonus-laden front-loaded 8x4 contract for Hyman.

At present, I don't think $4-million is over market value for him.

Towards the end of the contract the Leafs could expect the relative cap hit to diminish, and I think he would continue to be a stabilizing influence on the team.

I don't know that I would want the Leafs to go any higher.

 

[Mickey Marner]

With RNH getting 5.125×8 I expect that deal to set the market.

I like Hyman, but 5.5×6 is pretty steep both in dollar and term for a 29 year old winger with a career high of 41 points.

 

[Ciao]

What is the obsession in keeping this crap team together?

Stop

The Leafs aren't a crap team.

They lost a seven-game series that they could have won. I hope that makes them at least as miserable as their fans. They have plenty of talent but they need to be a much more miserable and hard-to-play-against group. What's happening now might help accomplish that.

I think it's better to keep building incrementally from one season to the next. The margins of error are very slight.

 

[WTFMAN99]

The Leafs aren't a crap team.

They lost a seven-game series that they could have won. I hope that makes them at least as miserable as their fans. They have plenty of talent but they need to be a much more miserable and hard-to-play-against group. What's happening now might help accomplish that.

I think it's better to keep building incrementally from one season to the next. The margins of error are very slight.

Ladd
Lucic
Clarkson
Clowe
Bolland
Okposo
Eriksson

How many of these contracts aged well?

 

[Brobust]

$4M x 8 years is what they should go for.

Structured something like $3.5 $3.5 $3.5 $5 $7 $3.5 $3.5 $3.5

Buyout after year 5 and after paying a SB for year 6 should come out to around $1.3M.

 

[Trapper]

5.5 x 6? Wtf is this garbage?

Why can't we just negotiate him into a Tyler Toffoli like contract (should honestly be a little cheaper).

4 x 4 should be the max and I’m a big Hyman fan.
Toffoli is a slightly better goal scorer so it’s right on point.
4 years pretty much puts him in line with everyone becoming UFA so if things don’t work out team wise you retool.

 

[WTFMAN99]

$4M x 8 years is what they should go for.

Structured something like $3.5 $3.5 $3.5 $5 $7 $3.5 $3.5 $3.5

Buyout after year 5 and after paying a SB for year 6 should come out to around $1.3M.

Hard pass on that deal.

 

[Knies iT]

An 8 year term at 4.75 would be a disaster.

Anything over 4.5m you walk. Regardless of term. You cannot anchor yourself to peripheral players.

Signing Hyman for 5 years was a shrewd move when he was young but with two injuries to his knee that ship has sailed.