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^^That's just a complete failure of player evaluation.
Then again you also claimed Ovechkin was a "shoot-only" player so....
Who's More Impressive To You: 2024-2025 Ovechkin Or Recent Crosby?
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^^That's just a complete failure of player evaluation.
Then again you also claimed Ovechkin was a "shoot-only" player so....
Michael Farkas
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Ugh, don't make me pull out the tape again haha
Just take the counting stat goal win and be happy...don't try to overplay the hand like he's out there doing a bunch of useful stuff. No one watching the games is falling for that, even other Caps fans are saying that. You're gonna win the thing you like, don't invite people to evaluate his game play, it's just gonna make him look bad at a time where he should be celebrated...
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I'll give Crosby/Pens fans this: You are great at politics. You can take a weakness (Crosby's alleged defense) and turn it into a perceived strength for anyone not watching the tape or able to comprehend the statistics. You can take one gif and pretend it says something huge. You can dumb down entire careers to extremely rare acts - like penalty shots - as if that makes or breaks a player to the extent that leading the league in goals 3 times somehow morphs into being better than leading the league 9 times.
Similarly, you can take a clear strength (Ovechkin's physicality) and simply pretend it doesn't exist. Over and over again. And that too can take hold with sheer repetition.
But you have to bank on people not thinking for themselves, not watching the games, and not comprehending the meaning of basic words (such as "dimension" and "only"). Admittedly, it works a surprising amount of the time.
Similarly, you can take a clear strength (Ovechkin's physicality) and simply pretend it doesn't exist. Over and over again. And that too can take hold with sheer repetition.
But you have to bank on people not thinking for themselves, not watching the games, and not comprehending the meaning of basic words (such as "dimension" and "only"). Admittedly, it works a surprising amount of the time.
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"Eye test wise he looks terrible most of the time to be frank. Yet he can look terrible all game and then score two goals to win the game."
This right here. It has been this way for a LONG time.
Michael Farkas
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Similarly, people can take things too literally, never let it go, and pretend like it's interesting to anyone else. Like, is it really "passive" aggressive in an exchange like this...? haha
Multi-dimensional, for me, really depends on the context. Typically, it refers to players that can play well at both ends of the ice. In other contexts, it means being a balanced attacker (one who is a major plus in goal scoring and playmaking). I don't say that to dismiss or discount physicality...not at all. But that's not necessarily the first thing that jumps to mind when talking about "multi-dimensional talent" for me. Other folks are free to interpret things as they see fit, of course...
Multi-dimensional, for me, really depends on the context. Typically, it refers to players that can play well at both ends of the ice. In other contexts, it means being a balanced attacker (one who is a major plus in goal scoring and playmaking). I don't say that to dismiss or discount physicality...not at all. But that's not necessarily the first thing that jumps to mind when talking about "multi-dimensional talent" for me. Other folks are free to interpret things as they see fit, of course...
It gets lost sometimes that Ovechkin was given a greenlight offensively to cheat for most of his career and when the Caps didn't have the puck, to disregard any thought of defensive positioning to try to make big hits.
The Caps won the Cup when Ovechkin was clearly making an effort to be a 2-way player.
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Ovechkin AINEC. He's having a historic season and looks like he'll break the record THIS YEAR, which is something very few people predicted would happen this soon, if ever. Crosby has had elite seasons for an old timer, but putting the puck in the net will always be more impressive to me. The fact ovechkin overcame adversity breaking his leg and coming back ahead of schedule and continuing to be a complete beast at scoring is just too damn impressive. His team playing well doesn't hurt either. This isn't even close. Ovechkin has the superior season compared to Crosby's last 3.
