Who Would You Rather Have Going Forward? Drai or Matthews

Who Would You Rather Have Going Forward?

  • Neutral fan voting Drai

    Votes: 160 43.5%
  • Neutral fan voting Matthews

    Votes: 130 35.3%
  • Oilers fan voting Drai

    Votes: 48 13.0%
  • Oilers fan voting Matthews

    Votes: 8 2.2%
  • Leafs fan voting Drai

    Votes: 14 3.8%
  • Leafs fan voting Matthews

    Votes: 29 7.9%

  • Total voters
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HeadLiceHatty

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Probably better than he does in Toronto but keeping pace with McDavid in points is out of the question.
Matthew’s might score 90 with mcdavid idk man. lol I’m also not a leaf’s fan, LD is a great player but to pretend he doesn’t live a fair share off mcdavid is crazy. Bouchard about to make 11 million a year playing on a PP with McDavid lmao, look at nurse. When we talk about generational the standard should be set at the guys that make everyone else look great, that’s a small list and McDavid is in it
 

authentic

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Matthew’s might score 90 with mcdavid idk man. lol I’m also not a leaf’s fan, LD is a great player but to pretend he doesn’t live a fair share off mcdavid is crazy. Bouchard about to make 11 million a year playing on a PP with McDavid lmao, look at nurse. When we talk about generational the standard should be set at the guys that make everyone else look great, that’s a small list and McDavid is in it

I’m referring to the playoffs where Draisaitl has more of less kept pace with McDavid in scoring m, even doing so with broken ribs and whatever other issues he’s dealt with. I just don’t see Matthews really doing that by t yeah he would be good for 80+ goals in regular season likely if played with McDavid some even strength and all the powerplays.
 

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:laugh::laugh:


Waaaaaaaaah the towonto media!


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Here's all the other votes for you to cope easier.
Marner got a 1st place vote!? :laugh:
 

HeadLiceHatty

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I’m referring to the playoffs where Draisaitl has more of less kept pace with McDavid in scoring m, even doing so with broken ribs and whatever other issues he’s dealt with. I just don’t see Matthews really doing that by t yeah he would be good for 80+ goals in regular season likely if played with McDavid some even strength and all the powerplays.
You can slice it and dice it, it’s clear. Playing with Mcgenerational matters
 
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It has more to do with their power play going absolutely cold in the playoffs. If you switched Matthews and Draisaitl, you’d see Matthews playoff numbers jump and Draisaitl’s decline.

As good as players Marner and Nylander are, they’re not Mcdavid. No one is.
When you make the money Matthews does, you don't get excuses. Especially the level mathews plays down to in the playoffs. If Matthews can't carry the team why pay him McDavid money?
 

Duke74

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It begs the question what would Matthew’s do riding shot gun to Mcdavid?
He'd probably do very well as would Draisaitl. However, we would never know, because, if swapped with Draisaitl, Matthews would have played with two of Kailer Yamamoto, Warren Foegele, Ryan McLeod, Tobias Rieder, Alex Chaisson, Jesse Puljujarvi, Dominik Kahun, and Ty Rattie. Meanwhile, Draisaitl would have one of Marner or Nylander.
 

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I’m referring to the playoffs where Draisaitl has more of less kept pace with McDavid in scoring m, even doing so with broken ribs and whatever other issues he’s dealt with. I just don’t see Matthews really doing that by t yeah he would be good for 80+ goals in regular season likely if played with McDavid some even strength and all the powerplays.
McDavid scored 11 more points than Draisaitl, despite playing harder matchups and Draisaitl getting bumped to McDavid's wing and PP to help get him going.

Draisaitl is good, he is not on McDavid's level, and he certainly benefits from playing with him.
 
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McDavid scored 11 more points than Draisaitl, despite playing harder matchups and Draisaitl getting bumped to McDavid's wing and PP to help get him going.

Draisaitl is good, he is not on McDavid's level, and he certainly benefits from playing with him.

I’m referring to their entire playoff careers. Astounding how well Draisaitl has done even when dealing with multiple injuries at once that would’ve sidelined most players. I’m not even a huge fan of his I’m a Matthews and Leaf’s fan being objective about it.
 
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I’m referring to their entire playoff careers. Astounding how well Draisaitl has done even when dealing with multiple injuries at once that would’ve sidelined most players. I’m not even a huge fan of his I’m a Matthews and Leaf’s fan being objective about it.
The guy doesn't carry injuries well. He goes electric before injuries, and then limps along in the playoffs after getting injured. We finally saw the Oilers go deep enough to shine a spotlight on the issue. I think expecting Drai to play well through 4 rounds of a playoff series is a long shot at this point. McDavid on the other hand is much better at finding ways to be effective while injured, which is a hallmark of an all time great player.
 
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The guy doesn't carry injuries well. He goes electric before injuries, and then limps along in the playoffs after getting injured. We finally saw the Oilers go deep enough to shine a spotlight on the issue. I think expecting Drai to play well through 4 rounds of a playoff series is a long shot at this point. McDavid on the other hand is much better at finding ways to be effective while injured, which is a hallmark of an all time great player.
Draisaitl set an NHL record while barely being able to skate.
 
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Draisaitl set an NHL record while barely being able to skate.
He had hand and rib injuries. Bergeron carried the Bruins in game 7 on two broken ribs. Drai doesn't backcheck, and gets put in every position to succeed offensively next to the greatest talent we have seen since Gretzky. Kurri broke records too, this comes with the territory of being a good player on a team with a GOAT level talent. Drai's statline after game 6 in round 2 has been posted on here many times. Its pretty obvious he doesn't carry injuries well. Good player when healthy though. Just stop with the excuses for the guy not being as good as McDavid. McDavid played hurt and outperformed him.
 
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Drai's statline after game 6 in round 2 has been posted on here many times. Its pretty obvious he doesn't carry injuries well.
Lets break down his injured playoff games.

In 2022 he got a high ankle sprain in game 6 of round 1. He went on to scored 2-20-22 +7 in 10 games after that while setting an NHL record for points in a 5 game series.

In 2024 he broke his rib in game 1 of round 2. After this injury he scored 5-14-19 -1 in 19 games.

So while injured in the playoffs Draisaitl has a stat line of 7-34-41 +6 in 29 games. Seems to carry them pretty well to me.
 
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Lets break down his injured playoff games.

In 2022 he got a high ankle sprain in game 6 of round 1. He went on to scored 2-20-22 +7 in 10 games after that while setting an NHL record for points in a 5 game series.

In 2024 he broke his rib in game 1 of round 2. After this injury he scored 5-14-19 -1 in 19 games.

So while injured in the playoffs Draisaitl has a stat line of 7-34-41 +6 in 29 games. Seems to carry them pretty well to me.
Players usually play injured in the playoffs.
 

MacMacandBarbie

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Lets break down his injured playoff games.

In 2022 he got a high ankle sprain in game 6 of round 1. He went on to scored 2-20-22 +7 in 10 games after that while setting an NHL record for points in a 5 game series.

In 2024 he broke his rib in game 1 of round 2. After this injury he scored 5-14-19 -1 in 19 games.

So while injured in the playoffs Draisaitl has a stat line of 7-34-41 +6 in 29 games. Seems to carry them pretty well to me.
Out of those 19 points, 8 came from being paired with McDavid to help him get going, and 5 were secondary assists. Despite getting plenty of power play time and playing alongside the GOAT, he still finished with a -1. He scored more goals in 5 games against the Kings than he did in the 19 games following his injury, largely because he struggles to play through injuries and benefits from playing with McDavid. Denying that seems strange. If you watched the games, it was clear he wasn’t at his best, often looking like a shadow of himself and being a defensive liability at times, which explains the -1.
 
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Peltz

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Drai for me feels a bit more the the guy you throw out there to do something in a tight game than Matthews. Just a gut feeling.

I go Drai.
 

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He had hand and rib injuries. Bergeron carried the Bruins in game 7 on two broken ribs. Drai doesn't backcheck, and gets put in every position to succeed offensively next to the greatest talent we have seen since Gretzky. Kurri broke records too, this comes with the territory of being a good player on a team with a GOAT level talent. Drai's statline after game 6 in round 2 has been posted on here many times. Its pretty obvious he doesn't carry injuries well. Good player when healthy though. Just stop with the excuses for the guy not being as good as McDavid. McDavid played hurt and outperformed him.
Uhm Lemieux is better than Mcdavid lol
 

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Matthews.
He's much better at even strength, whereas Drai sort of pads his stats on the powerplay. Also Matthews is far, far better in his own end.
 

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Matthews.
He's much better at even strength, whereas Drai sort of pads his stats on the powerplay. Also Matthews is far, far better in his own end.

When did even strength goals matter more than PP goals? Toronto couldn't piss a drop on the PP in the playoffs and look where it got them. It's a pretty important part of the game.
 

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