Who would you like as the next GM?

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Who should be the next GM

  • Dave Nonis

    Votes: 5 0.9%
  • Ray Shero

    Votes: 8 1.5%
  • Kris Draper

    Votes: 12 2.2%
  • Eric Tulsky

    Votes: 108 19.6%
  • Brandon Pridham

    Votes: 37 6.7%
  • Brad Treliving

    Votes: 34 6.2%
  • Scott Mellanby

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Jim Benning

    Votes: 10 1.8%
  • Peter Chiarelli

    Votes: 9 1.6%
  • Mathieu Darche (TB AGM)

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • Jamie Pushor (TB AGM)

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Mark Hunter

    Votes: 16 2.9%
  • Scott Nichol (NSH AGM)

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Laurence Gilman

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Mike Gillis

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • John Chayka

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Marc Bergevin

    Votes: 75 13.6%
  • Stan Bowman

    Votes: 41 7.5%
  • Steve Staios

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Ray Whitney

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • Hayley Wickenheiser

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • Ryan Hardy

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jason Botterill

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Mike Futa

    Votes: 27 4.9%
  • Paul Fenton

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Sean Burke

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • John Ferguson Jr

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Ron Hextall

    Votes: 7 1.3%
  • Dean Lombardi

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • Chuck Fletcher

    Votes: 7 1.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 89 16.2%

  • Total voters
    550
if reports are true…feels like Dubas did what a bunch of my contractor friends do when they don’t really want a job. Throw out a stupid number. If they agree. Cool.
Same in the transportation logistics field. Give a high go away number. If customer accepts it so be it at least we make good money on it.
 
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Who are the most logical candidates to step in as Toronto’s next GM? Consider these names, listed alphabetically.

Mathieu Darche​

The Tampa Bay Lightning’s development system is the envy of the league for its ability to turn seemingly marginal prospects into viable NHLers. Darche has worked for the Bolts as director of hockey operations since 2019-20 and was promoted to assistant GM starting this season, apprenticing with the wizard Julien BriseBois. Darche’s specific experience, seeing first-hand how a championship-grade team stays competitive despite losing stars as cap casualties, would be extra relevant for a Leafs team trying to figure out whether it should keep its expensive core together.

Brad Treliving​

If the Leafs want to go with a louder hire, an experienced and aggressively active GM who will come in unafraid to clean house? That’s Treliving, who completed one of the wildest offseasons of all-time last summer with the Calgary Flames. Having already held down a GM job in a Canadian market, he’d handle the pressure better than most candidates. And there’s something to be said for bringing in a true outsider with no prior attachments to the current roster. Things would not be quiet in the event that Treliving comes to town. He’d take the bull by the horns.

Eric Tulsky​

If Twitter could vote on the next GM of any NHL franchise, let alone the Leafs, Tulsky would win. He’s a brilliant mind whose analytics work leapfrogged him up the Carolina Hurricanes front office ladder, from analyst to director of analytics to vice-president of hockey management to assistant GM. The next logical step is to become a GM. And plenty of people would be rooting for Tulsky, one of the industry’s good people. But would an analytics-focused GM feel too much like a Dubas retread? And would Tulsky, known as a relatively shy personality, want the Hogtown limelight?
 
For those who want Stan Bowman.

Let me remind you of some of his masterful recent moves.

Since 2016

Traded Artemi Panarin + Tyler Motte + 6th for Brandon Saad + Michael Paliota and a 6th.
Traded Teuvo Teravainen + Bryan Bickell for a 2nd and 3rd
Traded Brandon Saad for Zadorov
Traded Philip Danault + 2nd (Alexander Romanov) for Dale Weise and Thomas Fleischmann.
Traded Adam Boqvist, 2 1sts (Jiricek, Sillinger), and 2nd (Heimosalmi) for Seth Jones + 31st (Allen)
Signed Seth Jones for 8 years 9.5 million.
Acquiring Shaw for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th
And the list goes on of awful trades, and moves.

Yea I get that he won some cups, but guy has been awful since 2015. + the Kyle beach shit show, I would stay away from him with a 10 foot pole.
Stan Bowman would be a awful choice for this team, he had his time, but his ability to recognize talent as you posted is awful.

If I had a choice;

1) Doug Armstrong (probably a no go regardless)
2) David Poile
3) Treliving (Made some good trades, hard to judge on the Tkchuck deal as was forced to make a deal, and then forced to keep Sutter as a coach when players quit on him.)
4) Ray Shero (50/50, won with Pittsbrugh, did some decent moves with NJD)

People are suggestion many AGM, which there are some good choices, but I'm not sure judging by Shanahan comments at the presser, if lack of experience will have them at the bottom of the list. Whoever is named the GM will be hitting the ground running and having to make some huge decisions.
 
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Stan Bowman would be a awful choice for this team, he had his time, but his ability to recognize talent as you posted is awful.

If I had a choice;

1) Doug Armstrong (probably a no go regardless)
2) David Poile
3) Treliving (Made some good trades, hard to judge on the Tkchuck deal as was forced to make a deal, and then forced to keep Sutter as a coach when players quit on him.)
4) Ray Shero (50/50, won with Pittsbrugh, did some decent moves with NJD)

People are suggestion many AGM, which there are some good choices, but I'm not sure judging by Shanahan comments at the presser, if lack of experience will have them at the bottom of the list. Whoever is named the GM will be hitting the ground running and having to make some huge decisions.

Stan Bowman won three rings over a span of six years.

Dubas could even manage to win three series over a span of five years.
 
Stan Bowman won three rings over a span of six years.

Dubas could even manage to win three series over a span of five years.
The Dubas comment is irrelevant to anything I posted, but like I said about Bowman had his time from 2009 to 2015, but since 2015, has had a terrible track record as a GM.
 
Is Chayka an option? Looked over his trades as Coyotes GM and honestly they were pretty solid.

I think Shanny gets canned the second Chay- leaves his mouth when he talks to the board. If he just came in last week and it was his first GM pick, maybe he’s the smartest guy in the room and finds the diamond in the rough with him. No way he replaces Dubas with dollar store Dubas with a ton of public baggage.
 
The Dubas comment is irrelevant to anything I posted, but like I said about Bowman had his time from 2009 to 2015, but since 2015, has had a terrible track record as a GM.

Even including his “terrible years” Bowman won 3 rings in 12 seasons.

Can you imagine if Dubas had won 3 Cups with the Leafs? The Fan Boi Club would be petitioning for a national holiday in honour of their idol.
 
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Stan B and Q coaching, let’s go. Who the hell are we trying to impress, put the band back together.
 
I'd take Bergevin just for the culture. He's definitely not the smartest, but his teams often overachieved and Montreal is a tough market. High end FA never sign there and it has more pressure than Toronto.

In retrospect the Subban for Webber trade was a huge win for the Habs and not many GM's would have the balls to pull the trigger on that.
 

Eight candidates to replace Kyle Dubas as Toronto Maple Leafs GM

By Matt Larkin

May 20, 2023

Who are the most logical candidates to step in as Toronto’s next GM? Consider these names, listed alphabetically.

Marc Bergevin

Bergevin would easily be the most polarizing name to pull from the list of candidates, next to dusting off Stan Bowman. He handed out many of the contracts that took on water and dragged the Montreal Canadiens into their current rebuilding period. He was also the one calling out Logan Mailloux’s name at the end of the 2021 NHL Draft’s first round after Mailloux had renounced the idea of being drafted in the wake of being convicted of a crime of a sexual nature. On the other hand, Bergevin guided the Habs through an era that included multiple division titles, an Eastern Conference Final birth and a trip to the 2021 Stanley Cup Final. Bergevin has worked under Luc Robitaille as a senior advisor for the L.A. Kings in the last season and a half, and Shanahan and Robitaille are friends as former Detroit Red Wings teammates. So Shanahan would trust a candidate recommended by Robitaille. Bergevin checks the “experienced” box.

Mathieu Darche

The Tampa Bay Lightning’s development system is the envy of the league for its ability to turn seemingly marginal prospects into viable NHLers. Darche has worked for the Bolts as director of hockey operations since 2019-20 and was promoted to assistant GM starting this season, apprenticing with the wizard Julien BriseBois. Darche’s specific experience, seeing first-hand how a championship-grade team stays competitive despite losing stars as cap casualties, would be extra relevant for a Leafs team trying to figure out whether it should keep its expensive core together.

Kris Draper

Draper would qualify as somewhat of an off-the-radar hire, but don’t sleep on him. He has worked in the Red Wings front office for more than a decade, sponging up expertise from the likes of Ken Holland, Jim Nill and, now, Steve Yzerman. Draper is blocked; there’s no way he’ll unseat the legendary ‘Stevie Y’ for the Detroit GM job anytime soon. Draper brings diverse experience, having been a special assistant to the GM but transitioning to director of amateur scouting, a post he’s held for several years. He’s a media-friendly personality who happens to be from Toronto and has a long friendship with former teammate Shanahan.

Brandon Pridham

If the Leafs want the quickest, smoothest transition to a gig that requires a lot of action in the near future: Pridham might be the way to go. Shanahan said explicitly Friday that in the meantime, before filling the job, “I’ll be leaning heavily on Brandon Pridham, and that “I’m not ruling anybody out at this point.” Having worked for years at the NHL with Central Scouting and the Central Registry, he is one of the sport’s foremost salary cap experts. He was instrumental to helping Dubas with salary-cap gymnastics in recent seasons. Pridham might not have the biggest media presence but, theoretically, he’d be well equipped to hit the ground running in an organization that is already completely familiar to him.

Steve Staios

Staios has to be one of the more experienced people in the sport who hasn’t yet nailed down a NHL GM job. He feels long overdue for a shot, having spent seven seasons running the OHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs, with a stint as Canada’s World Junior Championship GM mixed in. Staios gets talked up as a logical successor to Ken Holland in Edmonton, but that vacancy doesn’t exist at the moment. Staios first cut his teeth in an NHL front office with the Leafs, working from 2012-13 through 2014-15, overlapping with Shanahan’s tenure for a year.

Brad Treliving

If the Leafs want to go with a louder hire, an experienced and aggressively active GM who will come in unafraid to clean house? That’s Treliving, who completed one of the wildest offseasons of all-time last summer with the Calgary Flames. Having already held down a GM job in a Canadian market, he’d handle the pressure better than most candidates. And there’s something to be said for bringing in a true outsider with no prior attachments to the current roster. Things would not be quiet in the event that Treliving comes to town. He’d take the bull by the horns.

Eric Tulsky

If Twitter could vote on the next GM of any NHL franchise, let alone the Leafs, Tulsky would win. He’s a brilliant mind whose analytics work leapfrogged him up the Carolina Hurricanes front office ladder, from analyst to director of analytics to vice-president of hockey management to assistant GM. The next logical step is to become a GM. And plenty of people would be rooting for Tulsky, one of the industry’s good people. But would an analytics-focused GM feel too much like a Dubas retread? And would Tulsky, known as a relatively shy personality, want the Hogtown limelight?

Ray Whitney

Whitney was a finalist for the San Jose Sharks’ GM job last summer, losing out to Mike Grier. Whitney has spent more than half a decade as a director for the Department of Player Safety, and Shanahan is familiar with taking that route to an NHL front office, having headed up the DOPS before accepting the Leafs job in 2014. An advantage of working for the DOPS: it involves regular dealings with GMs around the NHL. Every other GM would likely already have a degree of familiarity with Whitney.

List updated following the news of Jason Spezza’s resignation
 
so Eric Tulsky, the AGM of the Canes who are currently getting their shit pushed in by the same Florida team.. thats who yall want?

cool.
Yes? They've had more success in the last 3 years than we've had the prior 15. They've outplayed Florida by a wide margin, but are getting goalied. Playing without 2-3 of their top players also. Canes are one of the better drafting teams also. Or is the standard, you have to win a cup to be a GM here? Guess Bowman is the only good answer, just don't like at his like 7-8 years I guess..
 
In retrospect the Subban for Webber trade was a huge win for the Habs
No it wasn't

The Habs won fewer playoff series after the trade than before. The Habs went through three coaches after the trade.

It's not remotely comparable actually.
 
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AI technology is at the point that you could train a bot on HFBoards.

Imagine what a stroke of genius it would be to put a HFBoards-trained bot in charge as GM.

The collective wisdom of all armchair GMs brought together - residents of the city of Toronto would get sick and tired of the yearly parades interrupting their city.
 
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For those who want Stan Bowman.

Let me remind you of some of his masterful recent moves.

Since 2016

Traded Artemi Panarin + Tyler Motte + 6th for Brandon Saad + Michael Paliota and a 6th.
Traded Teuvo Teravainen + Bryan Bickell for a 2nd and 3rd
Traded Brandon Saad for Zadorov
Traded Philip Danault + 2nd (Alexander Romanov) for Dale Weise and Thomas Fleischmann.
Traded Adam Boqvist, 2 1sts (Jiricek, Sillinger), and 2nd (Heimosalmi) for Seth Jones + 31st (Allen)
Signed Seth Jones for 8 years 9.5 million.
Acquiring Shaw for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th
And the list goes on of awful trades, and moves.

Yea I get that he won some cups, but guy has been awful since 2015. + the Kyle beach shit show, I would stay away from him with a 10 foot pole.

When you lay out the body of work like that. Probably not a good choice.
 
Whichever GM understands you need to have a dman with a clapper and you need transition (more emphasis on this over clapper) from your backend. Thank God Dubas inherited Rielly or it would have been a total shit show sweep by Tampa.
 

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Eric Tulsky

Assistant General Manager

Eric Tulsky is in his eighth season with the Hurricanes and his second as assistant general manager. As assistant general manager, Tulsky is involved in all player personnel decisions, oversees pro scouting and the team's hockey information department, and assists with player contract negotiations, salary cap compliance, and other hockey-related matters. Tulsky previously served as vice president of hockey management and strategy.

Tulsky first joined the Hurricanes organization in 2014 as a hockey analyst, using data to help inform decision-making on personnel decisions, on-ice tactics, draft decisions, and other hockey-related matters. Prior to being named vice president of hockey management and strategy, Tulsky served as manager of hockey analytics.

A Philadelphia native, Tulsky holds a B.A. in chemistry and physics from Harvard University and a Ph.D. in chemistry from the University of California, Berkeley.
He also conducted a two-year post-doctoral study at the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC. He worked in high-tech industry for 12 years, managing teams of researchers focused on using nanotechnology to solve problems in DNA sequencing, solar energy, displays, and energy storage; he holds 19 US patents.

Eric and his wife, Karen, live in Chapel Hill with their son, Seth.

We have Pridham here is probably equal or better.


Pridham or McPhee for me.
 
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