Speculation: Roster Building thread - Part XVII - (TDL is March 7th)

[Machinehead]

I don't actually know if a stat like that includes majors, but knowing the people who track that kind of stuff, I can't imagine that if you agreed to fight somebody, they would count that as having drawn 5 minutes. It doesn't present a man-advantage and these people are very into even strength versus special teams. Like, that doesn't pass the smell test of anything people into analytics would do.

 

[SA16]

I don't actually know if a stat like that includes majors, but knowing the people who track that kind of stuff, I can't imagine that if you agreed to fight somebody, they would count that as having drawn 5 minutes. It doesn't present a man-advantage and these people are very into even strength versus special teams. Like, that doesn't pass the smell test of anything people into analytics would do.

It obviously counts considering Mackey played one game last year, fought, and was credited with one drawn penalty.

 

[Machinehead]

It obviously counts considering Mackey played one game last year, fought, and was credited with one drawn penalty.

Well that's f***in stupid. What's the benefit of drawing a penalty that doesn't give a man-advantage?

They need to revise that.

 

[SA16]

Well that's f***in stupid. What's the benefit of drawing a penalty that doesn't give a man-advantage?

They need to revise that.

I'm sure they count it because the NHL lists it as a drawn penalty. They should obviously make up their own second stat which would be any sort of drawn non-matching penalty.

 

[Machinehead]

Also, that game was hilarious.

We were losing, Mackey gets in a fight, and we scored like 7 goals on our next 5 shots.

 

[RangerBoy]

Can anyone read body language?



What is Laviolette telling Othmann?





Kreider is moving well. Please trade him.

 

[McRanger92]

Can anyone read body language?



What Laviolette is telling Othmann?

"We're scratching you again so we can give Othmann 6 minutes of ice time and double shift Vesey and Smith."

 

[Machinehead]

"We're scratching you again so we can give Othmann 6 minutes of ice time and double shift Vesey and Smith."

Coaches scratching a guy to play a different guy who will just sit on the bench is my absolute favorite.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I was all for keeping Kakko and have said so for years.

That being said,

Let's remember Kakko is on a terrible team that's losing all the time playing more minutes and more important minutes than he did with the Rangers. His ATOI is whopping FOUR AND A HALF more minutes per game. That's a crazy increase. 13 to almost 18.

He himself said he didn't do enough with his opportunities here. He'll be a good NHL player for the next 10 years and, as much as it sucks, it wasn't going to work here.

The reason it wasn't gonna work here was because he was mishandled.

 

[McRanger92]

Coaches scratching a guy to play a different guy who will just sit on the bench is my absolute favorite.

It's annoying because we have young players who could potentially provide a spark for a listless team, but Laviolette (and Drury by extension) are giving an insane amount of runway to the veterans on the team when they show us every other game that they've quit.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

If this Organization is serious about getting better, put Othmann beside Mika and Cuylle, leave Lafreniere with Miller and leave it like that til the end of year. No in and outs, no stupid demotions for the odd growing pain, just let Othmann play with confidence. They can't keep making the same mistakes with young players, this is why we can never make it over the hump.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Coaches scratching a guy to play a different guy who will just sit on the bench is my absolute favorite.

My new favorite is a coach scratching a guy for 19 games in a row and then giving them 18 minutes of ice time and/or throwing them into the top 6.

If they weren't good enough in your estimation to play for nearly 20 in a row, why the f*** are you giving them all that ice?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I'm still flabbergasted that this team still floats Brodzinski out there like he's doing anything of substance.

 

[MrAlmost]

Kreider isn't even paying attention to Lavi and even if he plays othmann he will get 7 minutes cause trust and stuff.

The only thing I trust with this group is their inability to win.

 

[bl02]

jeez what happened to Berard? he brings the energy this team needs and can actually make a play here and there. Nobody even mentions him anymore.

 

[McRanger92]

jeez what happened to Berard? he brings the energy this team needs and can actually make a play here and there. Nobody even mentions him anymore.

He should be up, but I believe he was injured for a stretch when he went back to Hartford.

 

[MrAlmost]

jeez what happened to Berard? he brings the energy this team needs and can actually make a play here and there. Nobody even mentions him anymore.

I do. I try to post my hope for the lineup once a day. Maybe I can help make it a reality with like thought and stuff.

 

[McRanger92]

Othmann getting the usual treatment our prospects get, scratched in favor of a guy who has done nothing but sulk since November.

 

[Machinehead]

My new favorite is a coach scratching a guy for 19 games in a row and then giving them 18 minutes of ice time and/or throwing them into the top 6.

If they weren't good enough in your estimation to play for nearly 20 in a row, why the f*** are you giving them all that ice?

Jayson Megna played 6 games for the Rangers and they were all on the top line.

 

[Mike in Houston]

Looks like Kreider is going to be a GTD? He didn't take any line rushes at practice. Just did PP work, albeit on PP2 mostly.

Othmann getting the usual treatment our prospects get, scratched in favor of a guy who has done nothing but sulk since November.

LOL

 

[McRanger92]

Looks like Kreider is going to be a GTD? He didn't take any line rushes at practice. Just did PP work, albeit on PP2 mostly.



LOL

Cmon Mike, we saw this song and dance with Zuccarello for 3 months before the 2018 deadline when he knew his days were numbered. Kreider has been defiant and going at 3/4 speed since his name leaked in that memo. I'm just calling it as I see it.

 

[Mike in Houston]

Cmon Mike, we saw this song and dance with Zuccarello for 3 months before the 2018 deadline when he knew his days were numbered. Kreider has been defiant and going at 3/4 speed since his name leaked in that memo. I'm just calling it as I see it.

I think you just take any chance you can get to take a swipe at him.

 

[haohmaru]

Kreider isn't even paying attention to Lavi and even if he plays othmann he will get 7 minutes cause trust and stuff.

The only thing I trust with this group is their inability to win.

I would scratch him solely on the exchange if I were the HC.

 

[Mike in Houston]

I would scratch him solely on the exchange if I were the HC.

Were you there? Did you hear what was said?

Now we're reading body language and lip reading?

 

[Fitzy]

Jayson Megna played 6 games for the Rangers and they were all on the top line.

Isbister with Jagr
Christensen with Gaborik
Blackwell with Panarin.

Somtimes its about fit, not talent. Especially when the roster doesnt have enough talent to fill a top 9, which happens to us frequently.