Who would Detroit take at 4?

[RedWingzz]

I was #TeamForward all the way until we dropped to 4th. I think many of the forwards (likely) available at 4 this year are huge risks... Lucas Raymond being the safest and my second choice, but that's my opinion.

Our defense, much like our offense, is trash. I like Drysdale's game and I think he compliments what we have now as well as fills a need going forward. He'll be able to help on both defense and offense.

My pick would be Perfetti. I'll "gamble" on his offensive upside.

 

[haulinbass]

Was really hoping to land 2-3 OA and take Stutzle, but at this time I'm leaning toward Raymond at 4OA

 

[Filppula]

Raymond doesn’t blow me away, I don’t get that wow factor. What are his peak projections? Like PPG? 60 pts?

 

[SwedeChristoffer]

Raymond doesn’t blow me away, I don’t get that wow factor. What are his peak projections? Like PPG? 60 pts?

Projecting points is very difficult because it depends on team (system, team mates etc.) and usage (biggest one being PP1 time).

Play-style wise he looks like a mix between Marner and Panarin, so what they are doing would probably be his ceiling.

Numbers wise he has produced fairly similar numbers to what W. Nylander did in his DY, DY-1 and DY-2, I think that is a fairly reasonable expectation for him.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Projecting points is very difficult because it depends on team (system, team mates etc.) and usage (biggest one being PP1 time).

Play-style wise he looks like a mix between Marner and Panarin, so what they are doing would probably be his ceiling.

Numbers wise he has produced fairly similar numbers to what W. Nylander did in his DY, DY-1 and DY-2, I think that is a fairly reasonable expectation for him.

God, that's kind of disappointing after eyeing Lafreniere all year.

 

[Dotter]

I highly doubt it but I can see LA picking Sanderson or Drysdale because they need more defense prospects. Or they can go BPA which is Stutzle.

My top 5 is Lafreniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Rossi, Drsydale.

Is he BPA though? He's a center which is why I think he's projected top 3. I view he and Drysdale as equal BPA, or maybe even slight edge to Drysdale as BPA.

 

[Kronwalled55]

God, that's kind of disappointing after eyeing Lafreniere all year.

60 points to a PPG average would still be a very successful pick. We haven't had a PPG player in an 82 game season in almost 10 years.

I'm hoping for 'Elias Pettersson' type numbers from him.

 

[Frk It]

Raymond doesn’t blow me away, I don’t get that wow factor. What are his peak projections? Like PPG? 60 pts?

I don't know how anyone could watch highlights of him and come to this conclusion.

 

[Henkka]

I don't know how anyone could watch highlights of him and come to this conclusion.

Depends of the highlights. 2019-20 are poor, 2018-19 are great.

This 2019-20 is a real concern.

 

[DetroitRed]

I switched from leaning Raymond to leaning Drysdale and changed my vote accordingly.

I wouldn't mind seeing this again but with just the top four or maybe top five most popular choices.

 

[Winger98]

I switched from leaning Raymond to leaning Drysdale and changed my vote accordingly.

I wouldn't mind seeing this again but with just the top four or maybe top five most popular choices.

I think I'd wait until closer to the draft. Give some of these kids some time to make an impression in Europe this fall and a lot of votes could change pretty quick.

 

[Henkka]

I think I'd wait until closer to the draft. Give some of these kids some time to make an impression in Europe this fall and a lot of votes could change pretty quick.

So the draft day will be 9th October (1st round) and 10th October (2nd round).

In Finland, HIFK (Lundell) plays 12 pre-season games and 4 regular season games before the draft.

In Sweden, Frölunda (Raymond) plays 6 regular season games before the draft. (didn't find info about pre-season, but there definitely will be something)

Din't find info about Germany.

There could be also some Champions League games.

 

[MBH]

I think I'd wait until closer to the draft. Give some of these kids some time to make an impression in Europe this fall and a lot of votes could change pretty quick.

Right. Not necessarily in a good or helpful way.

 

[lilidk]

So the draft day will be 9th October (1st round) and 10th October (2nd round).

In Finland, HIFK (Lundell) plays 12 pre-season games and 4 regular season games before the draft.

In Sweden, Frölunda (Raymond) plays 6 regular season games before the draft. (didn't find info about pre-season, but there definitely will be something)

Din't find info about Germany.

There could be also some Champions League games.

Some other tournaments ,I hope

 

[Bench]

I think I'd wait until closer to the draft. Give some of these kids some time to make an impression in Europe this fall and a lot of votes could change pretty quick.

I saw many votes shifted immediately after it was announced the Wings would get #4. Even though this entire poll was based on that scenario, the reality of it happening made people dig a little deeper into their choice.

We'll see that happen again and again over the next few months. All this time to overthink - you have to wonder if it will get into some GMs head and he'll find his own "reach" that him and his team are sold on.

 

[lilidk]

around 6 minute he compares Raymond to others

 

[DetroitRed]

I think I'd wait until closer to the draft. Give some of these kids some time to make an impression in Europe this fall and a lot of votes could change pretty quick.

Yeah, I am, but I'm leaning Drysdale now.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

I switched from leaning Raymond to leaning Drysdale and changed my vote accordingly.

I wouldn't mind seeing this again but with just the top four or maybe top five most popular choices.

@MBH

To get True #'s for this exercise, We need: Multiple Votes on poll.

 

[Winger98]

I saw many votes shifted immediately after it was announced the Wings would get #4. Even though this entire poll was based on that scenario, the reality of it happening made people dig a little deeper into their choice.

We'll see that happen again and again over the next few months. All this time to overthink - you have to wonder if it will get into some GMs head and he'll find his own "reach" that him and his team are sold on.

I'd wonder if we don't see GMs try to be more conservative, and the reaches we see will be guys perceived as having the highest floors. Guys like Rossi and Lundell could really benefit, but a guy like Raymond might fall.

 

[avssuc]

I'd wonder if we don't see GMs try to be more conservative, and the reaches we see will be guys perceived as having the highest floors. Guys like Rossi and Lundell could really benefit, but a guy like Raymond might fall.

Sort of how Tua and other injury risks fell in the NFL draft? I'd bet you're correct.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Maybe SY nabs Drysdale and goes to Arby's , or a good steak house/Italian & takes the draft picks out.

Maybe SY thinks he can play LD in the future?

 

[DetroitRed]

@MBH

To get True #'s for this exercise, We need: Multiple Votes on poll.

Or ranked choice.

 

[Henkka]

Easy to redo this nearer of the draft. Then everybody can overreact for everything.

Games at Europe, etc.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

I actually think a Seider/Drysdale pairing would work nicely. Their skills complement each other's well imo.

In the defensive zone Seider could do the work in front of the net, which covers the weakest part of Drysdale's game.

In defensive transitions both players generally excel, which would make them tough to catch on the break.

If offensive transitions, Drysdale's skating/stickhandling ability would help take some of the pressure off of Seider. However, both players are pretty good in this regard. I'd expect this pairing to put up the team's best zone entry numbers in a while (although that's not saying much for the Wings).

In the offensive zone, I think both players are very solid, if not exceptional. Playing Drysdale on his off-side would allow him to utilize his strong wrist shot. Both players' clappers could use serious improvement, but that's the way she goes.

Yes they're both right handed, yes that's not ideal. But plenty of teams make same-handed pairings work, that's not a huge factor to me. I'd gladly trade three average, balanced pairings for six great RHD.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Or ranked choice.

The "Ranked Choice" will be the outcome of # of votes on the bar graph, the true #'s. We're saying the same thing but yet they're 2 sides of a coin.