DisgruntledHawkFan
Blackhawk Down
Ndgt was saying the Hawks were cooked while they were winning Cups. He's contrary for the sake of controversy.
If that was the case then no one would be coming over at all not just top 3 picks. Miroshenko was literally seen as a top 5 pick in 2022 before he had cancer and fell just past your cherry picked margin.Good faith? If this was 3-4 yrs ago I wouldn't be saying the same thing as Russia wasn't in the hot war they are in now. What the hell don't you comprehend? The 3 guys you listed were not Michkov or Demidov..so ya I am talking about top Russian players who were/are rated as potential top 3 picks not lower tier guys like you mentioned.
I like Buium but he's not the best player of this draft.For me Buium is going to be the best player of this draft. So I’m happy to draft him @ 2 overall, yet I hope KD plays up draft rankings and other team views and trades down and acquires more assets, while still nabbing buium.
To me he has all the physical attributes( skating, skills, not big but solid and strong) combined with a high hockey IQ. He’s very cal markar(esque).
Also he has the ability to adjust and elevate his game against stiffer competition and big Game moments.
Not to mention , he’s just winner at every level he’s played , and a leader amongst winners.
I try to trade down a bit for more assets while still getting him , but if not I take him at 2 , I’d take him at 1 actually
The comp is Adam Fox.He's nowhere near as dynamic. Odd comp to me.
I agree. I would take him, I’m just saying that the MHL quality is less analyzed in NA. We don’t have those questions readily answered. Saying he won’t come or I’m nervous cause he’s Russian is irrelevant. I can atleast buy the league quality argument. That’s my only point.Sure but he has been playing there for two seasons now and playing against two or three years older players. 71 games and 122 points in regular season and 41 points in 27 playoff games in that period. He has produced there better than Michkov did. Not saying that he is better or will be than Michkov but just saying. This kid is special.
They actually had a lot of games streamed on YouTube without geopolitical restriction. I work remote and would have the Playoff games streamed a lot of the time as it'd typically be around 9 or 10 am our time when they'd play. Demidov very notably stands out amongst his competition.Lets be honest, most of us don't follow Russian hockey very closely. But the clips and reading I've seen all indicate that this kid has damn special potential.
I mean he had 35 points in 38 games as an 18 year old freshman defenceman. I am not saying he definitely becomes a PP guy, but there is nothing that has me worried he can't be at this stage.The problem I have with Levshunov is he doesn't fill the need for a power play defenseman. I have heavy doubts he becomes a PP #1 guy and I don't think we have one of those in our system
For me Buium is going to be the best player of this draft. So I’m happy to draft him @ 2 overall, yet I hope KD plays up draft rankings and other team views and trades down and acquires more assets, while still nabbing buium.
To me he has all the physical attributes( skating, skills, not big but solid and strong) combined with a high hockey IQ. He’s very cal markar(esque).
Also he has the ability to adjust and elevate his game against stiffer competition and big Game moments.
Not to mention , he’s just winner at every level he’s played , and a leader amongst winners.
I try to trade down a bit for more assets while still getting him , but if not I take him at 2 , I’d take him at 1 actually
This is what I was referring to earlier. This kid is not the clear cut second best player in this draft, the situation in Russia cannot be ignored. I get taking a flyer later in the draft but the second pick? It is extremely risky for someone who is not the clear cut second best player in the draft to take, you could end up with nothing and that is not an option. I wanted this kid but the more I think about it the more I think it should be a pass. I would not be surprised if this kid falls down the board a bit, not the only team which should have these concerns.There is a lot at play with the "Russian Factor" lets stop pretending its just his KHL contract. His country is in an active HOT WAR and its expanding not contracting, The US has an embargo against Russia and all relations between countries is at all time high. Also lets not forget Michkov's father was literally murdered days after discussing his son going to play in the USA! People can pretend all they want but those are very real serious issues and I would not roll the dice on him while trying to build around Bedsy.
I was skeptical before, too, regarding the Russia situation. At this point, I don't believe there's any reason to think he wouldn't be coming over.This is what I was referring to earlier. This kid is not the clear cut second best player in this draft, the situation in Russia cannot be ignored. I get taking a flyer later in the draft but the second pick? It is extremely risky for someone who is not the clear cut second best player in the draft to take, you could end up with nothing and that is not an option. I wanted this kid but the more I think about it the more I think it should be a pass. I would not be surprised if this kid falls down the board a bit, not the only team which should have these concerns.
1) He is either 2nd or 3rd best player, for sure. I think he is likely the 2nd most talented player, and the most talented player available to the Blackhawks.This is what I was referring to earlier. This kid is not the clear cut second best player in this draft, the situation in Russia cannot be ignored. I get taking a flyer later in the draft but the second pick? It is extremely risky for someone who is not the clear cut second best player in the draft to take, you could end up with nothing and that is not an option. I wanted this kid but the more I think about it the more I think it should be a pass. I would not be surprised if this kid falls down the board a bit, not the only team which should have these concerns.
Yes and the two notable hockey websites play MHL games all the time. I was easily able to watch MHL playoff games, as well as KHL playoff games for Kantserov.They actually had a lot of games streamed on YouTube without geopolitical restriction. I work remote and would have the Playoff games streamed a lot of the time as it'd typically be around 9 or 10 am our time when they'd play. Demidov very notably stands out amongst his competition.
He is a magical playmaker in terms of surprising the competition. But, the knock on the MHL is legit too. A lot of those highlights make the OHL look defensively stout by contrast, oof. Also sounds like two leg injuries in the past year as well? Minor injuries though.
Thing about amazing vision is you need linemates who are ready for it. Some players can make that vision simple for others around them, like Kane. For most others it doesn't land at the NHL level and then they can't fall back on the fancy plays like they could at the lower level.
I don't think this is an easy choice as some are declaring.
He's really good at 5v5 offense, but his powerplay skills aren't that amazing. Sam Dickinson is the same way as a point per game guy in the OHL even though he's playing lower competition. Levshunov projects well as a #2 defenseman that plays PP2 and PK1. That's my hope if we draft him. If we don't draft him, I hope he failsI mean he had 35 points in 38 games as an 18 year old freshman defenceman. I am not saying he definitely becomes a PP guy, but there is nothing that has me worried he can't be at this stage.
Agreed; which I why I think we should trade downIt's rough when you're picking 2nd overall and instead of there being a consensus, there's like 5 names in contention.
The fans here seem to overwhelmingly want Ivan Demidov.
Mike Doneghey probably wants Artyom Levshunov.
Kyle Davidson probably wants Sam Dickinson.
I think Anton Silayev is the way to go, though Cayden Lindstrom has lots of upside too (only if he's healthy). I'm also very fond of Tij Iginla as he's the player in the draft with the most dog in him.
I really have no idea what's going to happen.
I agree and I think it will translate and he will be extremely impactful at the nhl level. Also we could possibly trade down a few spots and pick up another nice asset or two while still picking him.He can control games when he's on. Tough call if that translates to the big league but if it did?
Being 18 in the NCAA and backing guys off the way he does is incredibly impressive. And he's got a whole tool set on just that part of his game. If he can do that in big league he'd be a possession monster for a team. Really a unique player, kinda has some Hossa to his game but on D.
If he panned out like he did as a freshman in the NCAA you have a player that tilts your ice regardless of who else is skating. That's a team changing type of talent.
Let's curb the talk on Russian politics.
It's not going to have any effect on who the Blackhawks draft, so it doesn't need to be discussed.
Yeah, if only the Blackhawks had a great playmaker they could pair him with to make the transition even easier.