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To say im annoyed by this development is an understatement.
Of course we dont get our first choice,
Of course we dont get our first choice,
Waddell wants to know compensation before proceeding so if he was ok to go to the negotiation stage he was alright with McLellan's offer. Sounds like Kings want CBJ to pay the entire last year for them.So either it's that Todd McLellan wants more than his current salary with LA of $5.5 million / year. In which case what a greedy bastard.
Or it's that the CBJ are unwilling to pay his current salary with LA of $5.5 million/year for next year and the years beyond. In which case what cheap bastards.
Compensation requested by their former team?The “couple of these guys are technically still under contract” thing really just came out in the last couple days. Surely there must be other explanations why this could be complicated and held up other than “cheap ownership.” Right?
I'm sure the kings could be the hold up. I don't discount that at all. I just think it's part of the negotiation process.Waddell wants to know compensation before proceeding so if he was ok to go to the negotiation stage he was alright with McLellan's offer. Sounds like Kings want CBJ to pay the entire last year for them.
Perhaps but that is definitely the norm for when a team hires a coach that is still under contract with a different team. I get that ownership doesn't want to pay Babcock + Vincent + McLellan's last year in LA + McLellan. But it will likely be the same story with Woodcroft and Evason right?Waddell wants to know compensation before proceeding so if he was ok to go to the negotiation stage he was alright with McLellan's offer. Sounds like Kings want CBJ to pay the entire last year for them.
I don't think that is allowed any longer.Compensation requested by their former team?
I don't think this is embarrassing at all. Maybe this is embarrassing for the Kings, they have a chance to get out from some of TM's salary while allowing a guy they fired to move on and are holding him back. I am sure teams don't want to be known as holding back execs and coaches they have fired.Maybe we’re going “public” with this to pressure McLellan to accept a lower salary or we move on? IDK. This is embarrassing
I’m not sure where the falloff is, but the contract he signed in LA was 5.5 million, which is even more than Babcock was going to make here (4M), and that was already the highest number in franchise history. I think this is mostly all from the CBJ end of not wanting to pay McLellan 5.5 million (or around this) in years 2+.I don't think this is embarrassing at all. Maybe this is embarrassing for the Kings, they have a chance to get out from some of TM's salary while allowing a guy they fired to move on and are holding him back. I am sure teams don't want to be known as holding back execs and coaches they have fired.
We have zero knowledge of why the compensation is an issue. Jumping to conclusions is useless.
I believe Torts was the last...lucky us! That said, looking at the picks starting with the 2017 second rounder we surrendered to Vancouver and the seven draft picks that followed...we didn't really lose anything unless Jarmo goes way off the board.I don't think that is allowed any longer.
If anything I see this being the Kings being the "issue" here. A lot of unknowns right now.Why do we always default to the worst possible explanation? Isn't it exhausting catastrophizing and leaping to the worst option for everything? The two knuckleheads causing most of the org's problems the past few years are gone. Sometimes things are just boring and mundane.
No detailed news for a few weeks on the hiring process must mean that they're not doing a single thing and ignoring the vacancy, obviously! Couldn't just be that they're working on it and haven't released everything publicly, no way. "Admin issues" crop up in negotiations between McLellan, the Kings, and Jackets so obviously the only explanation is that the McConnells are cheap. Couldn't be something on the Kings side causing problems or simple legal or contractual issues.
If this is a power move, what would pressure him to take a lower salary? He's getting paid a bunch by a team to do nothing this year. Why would he take a job for less on a team that has been a trainwreck,Maybe we’re going “public” with this to pressure McLellan to accept a lower salary or we move on? IDK. This is embarrassing
Hard to say with Don.. could be him trying to drive price down a bit having 2 other really qualified guys . McClellan may need to think how badly he wants to coach.. this team has a lot of potential that could make him look really goodOh at this point looks to be so and why there hasn't been an announcement. The contract negotiations fell apart and unless ownership ponies up for more money then back to square one.
I Agree .. Wads is negotiating .. since we are drawing unfounded conclusions , maybe Macclellan is asking for more money than they feel he’s worth , with his playoff record .. so they push back , how bad do you want the job ?I don't think this is embarrassing at all. Maybe this is embarrassing for the Kings, they have a chance to get out from some of TM's salary while allowing a guy they fired to move on and are holding him back. I am sure teams don't want to be known as holding back execs and coaches they have fired.
We have zero knowledge of why the compensation is an issue. Jumping to conclusions is useless.
But again, the point was made in several places that Waddell asks for salary expectations before even going through the interview process. Assuming TMac has already interviewed, that means he and the CBJ were close on salary terms. If that's the case, then the issue isn't between the CBJ and TMac, it's between the Kings and CBJ. In that case, Kings might be being unreasonable. We don't know...but speculating the worst about the CBJ here might be jumping to a bad conclusion.I’m not sure where the falloff is, but the contract he signed in LA was 5.5 million, which is even more than Babcock was going to make here (4M), and that was already the highest number in franchise history. I think this is mostly all from the CBJ end of not wanting to pay McLellan 5.5 million (or around this) in years 2+.
Hedger, you really need to stop trolling this site.Move onto Evason/Quenneville.
So you don't care for hockey in Columbus. Okay. Good to know.If you have to pass on a coach because of money issues you shouldn’t own a team
Alright, you convinced me. You’re right.But again, the point was made in several places that Waddell asks for salary expectations before even going through the interview process. Assuming TMac has already interviewed, that means he and the CBJ were close on salary terms. If that's the case, then the issue isn't between the CBJ and TMac, it's between the Kings and CBJ. In that case, Kings might be being unreasonable. We don't know...but speculating the worst about the CBJ here might be jumping to a bad conclusion..
Well considering I’m not from Columbus I really don’t care. I just don’t want an owner who won’t do what it takes to get the coach we need.So you don't care for hockey in Columbus. Okay. Good to know.
Cool. Most of us do.Well considering I’m not from Columbus I really don’t care.
I am not sure I understand. If you don't really care about hockey in Columbus, what are you doing on this board?Well considering I’m not from Columbus I really don’t care. I just don’t want an owner who won’t do what it takes to get the coach we need.
because ownership and its cronies have done NOTHING to earn the benefit of the doubt.Why do we always default to the worst possible explanation?
Also curious as to why care about the CBJ at all if the C part does not matter?Well considering I’m not from Columbus I really don’t care. I just don’t want an owner who won’t do what it takes to get the coach we need.
Evason has one more year left on his contract (through 2024-25) at a little less than $2 million.