Who should be the next coach?

[thusk]

I'm not going to pretend to know anything that went on there.
Qu lied about when he heard about it, and lost his job and his reputation.

Montreal had no issue drafting Mailloux, and now they have him, and he's playing as if nothing ever happened.
They got some negative press when it happened, but, then it stopped, and now they have the player that they wouldnt have with that late a pick.

is it 'right' NO, but, it's 'business' and sometimes business is really ugly and unethical, and as soon as Qu is reinstated, some team will hire him.

Hopefully, he's not a fit here, but, technically, he would be the best 'coach' available.

Mailloux took picture, sent him to friends and recognize his mistake and asking for team to didnt draft him

Quenneville just refute information, tried to hide the truth of an sexual abuse and helped a sexual abuser to still working and created some new victim.

Whats is really the worst of both

Maybe NHL will allowed him to came back, but the public in Toronto will not... Maybe in USA, they already ready to senta sexual abuser as country president and a lot still behind him now they know the truth but will nevet be the case in Canada

 

[mydnyte]

Mailloux took picture, sent him to friends and recognize his mistake and asking for team to didnt draft him

Quenneville just refute information, tried to hide the truth of an sexual abuse and helped a sexual abuser to still working and created some new victim.

Whats is really the worst of both

like i said, i dont know what happened.

imagine for a minute that you know the accused very well, and you trust them...
who are you more likely to believe in an accusation, if the person you know well, that denies it happened, or the one you dont really know that says it did happened?
this doesnt make it right at all, but, sometimes its hard to believe someone you know is capable of doing something so horrible.

I know a person that did do something horrible, and if i didnt completely trust the person that told me about it, i would never have believed it happened

 

[thusk]

like i said, i dont know what happened.

imagine for a minute that you know the accused very well, and you trust them...
who are you more likely to believe in an accusation, if the person you know well, that denies it happened, or the one you dont really know that says it did happened?
this doesnt make it right at all, but, sometimes its hard to believe someone you know is capable of doing something so horrible.

I know a person that did do something horrible, and if i didnt completely trust the person that told me about it, i would never have believed it happened

Beach went on to report the assault to other members of the team.

Mental skills coach and team counselor Jim Gary shared Beach's allegations with other leaders of the Blackhawks including President John McDonough, Executive Vice President Jay Blunk, Assistant General Manager Kevin Cheveldayoff and head coach Joel Quenneville.

The front office met and decided to "avoid bad publicity" as the team approached the playoffs. The team's leaders didn't make the allegations public or remove Aldrich from the team until well after the team won the Stanley Cup.
After the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup, the team allowed Aldrich to remain on the team and celebrate the win.

According to the investigators' report, Aldrich also made a sexual advance on a Blackhawks intern who was 22 years old during the team's events

Only later in June did the Blackhawks' director of human resources meet with Aldrich and offer him the chance to undergo an investigation into what happened with Beach or to resign.

Aldrich resigned but received a severance and a playoff bonus and continued to be paid a salary for several months. He was allowed to bring the Stanley Cup for a day in his hometown, his name was engraved on the trophy, he received a championship ring, and he attended a Stanley Cup banner-raising ceremony.

He went on to work with USA Hockey, the University of Notre Dame, Miami University in Ohio, and Houghton High School in Houghton, Mich. While in Houghton, Aldrich was arrested and pleaded guilty in 2013 to fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct involving a minor.

Sorry they doesn't exist any no good reason for this

 

[ULF_55]

Would you hire Brind'Amour if he becomes available.

What has he won?

 

[WTFMAN99]

So I will catch heat for this but I would hire coach Q

Doubt they'd be so bold so...Gallant?

 

[ShaneFalco]

It's hard to replace a future legend

 

[Anthrax442]

Is Sutter available?

 

[Buds17]

Would you hire Brind'Amour if he becomes available.

What has he won?

A couple of Selke Trophies as a player; a Jack Adams and at least a handful of playoff series as a coach. I'd certainly be willing to have a discussion.

 

[al secord]

Dare I say John Tortorella? May just be what this group needs.

Another American egomaniac is not what this team needs. He'll use us for a stepping stone to another TV gig.

 

[ULF_55]

A couple of Selke Trophies as a player; a Jack Adams and at least a handful of playoff series as a coach. I'd certainly be willing to have a discussion.

With regards to coaching, don't care what he did as a player.

But I think you would talk to him even though he hasn't won, agreed.

Sutter has won, but not sure I'd talk to him, especially since the new GM of the Flames said the next coach has to be able to communicate with the players.

 

[Buds17]

With regards to coaching, don't care what he did as a player.

But I think you would talk to him even though he hasn't won, agreed.

Sutter has won, but not sure I'd talk to him, especially since the new GM of the Flames said the next coach has to be able to communicate with the players.

I'd like to think that a former Selke winner-turned-head coach would be able to impart wisdom about good defensive habits and work ethic toward his players.

 

[Trapper]

Would you hire Brind'Amour if he becomes available.

What has he won?

My respect for setting a culture of hard work, show up on time and bite in his team.
They keep losing at the conference final so they may need a change but it’s certainly better than us with making it to the 2nd round and quickly out in 5 years. Carolina needs to prove they can get past round 3 into the final, the Leafs still need to prove to me that they can get by round 1 again next year.

 

[sxvnert]

And tried to take Mucklers job & was blacklisted....a la Dubas

He was only streamlining the process.

 

[Notsince67]

Is Sutter available?

Hire him as GM. Good drafting when GM and an SOB we need for contract negotiations

 

[sxvnert]

I hope Dubas goes to PIT and fires Sullivan for Keefe

He'll hire Keefe for their farm system first.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

He'll hire Keefe for their farm system first.

Keefe slots right where he probably should have been this whole time

 

[danny90]

Is Sutter available?

We already tried Babcock and he failed

 

[nuck]

Beach went on to report the assault to other members of the team.

Mental skills coach and team counselor Jim Gary shared Beach's allegations with other leaders of the Blackhawks including President John McDonough, Executive Vice President Jay Blunk, Assistant General Manager Kevin Cheveldayoff and head coach Joel Quenneville.

The front office met and decided to "avoid bad publicity" as the team approached the playoffs. The team's leaders didn't make the allegations public or remove Aldrich from the team until well after the team won the Stanley Cup.
After the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup, the team allowed Aldrich to remain on the team and celebrate the win.

According to the investigators' report, Aldrich also made a sexual advance on a Blackhawks intern who was 22 years old during the team's events

Only later in June did the Blackhawks' director of human resources meet with Aldrich and offer him the chance to undergo an investigation into what happened with Beach or to resign.

Aldrich resigned but received a severance and a playoff bonus and continued to be paid a salary for several months. He was allowed to bring the Stanley Cup for a day in his hometown, his name was engraved on the trophy, he received a championship ring, and he attended a Stanley Cup banner-raising ceremony.

He went on to work with USA Hockey, the University of Notre Dame, Miami University in Ohio, and Houghton High School in Houghton, Mich. While in Houghton, Aldrich was arrested and pleaded guilty in 2013 to fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct involving a minor.

Sorry they doesn't exist any no good reason for this

I think more of that stuff is on McDonough and Bowman. I believe that is the pay grade of the person who would handle it. I hate to say it but the group of them may have thought this guy can crush Aldrich with one hand so they are thinking either its no threat or it may have been something consensual. The wrong call but the League was not exactly a woke place in those years. If you are old enough to have been in any workforce 15 years ago before "Me Too", "Lets Talk", BLM or LGBTQ+++ it was not a world invited whistle blowing the way it does today or where people talked much about their issues like mental health is now talked about.

I have reread the Jenner and Block report on their site and there is confusion with all parties about who said what to whom. Similar ambiguity with the NHLPA internal report. Everyone involved seems to have limited or selective memory including Jim Gary who brought the matter to the meeting in McDonough's office (page 46 of the report). His reporting was not clear that anything physical had happened and if correct he was the sole conduit between the player and Hawks management so what they knew is what he told them. What Kyle said he reported may not have been exactly what reached reached management.

Please don't take this as is any way an anti-Beach post or that I don't feel he was a victim but it was up to the top men in the room to do something and they didn't. There still might be too much stink on Q to touch just because he was in the room though. If you believe that he knew there was an assault that's a different story but I don't think that was clear from anyone's evidence of what was discussed at the time.

 

[LaPlante94]

Just hire someone nobody even thought of and go get Fedorov. Back to back titles in the KHL and bring his top 3 guys with him in Okulov, Grigorenko and Nesterov because why the hell not.

 

[Squiffy]

We already tried Babcock and he failed

Should have stuck with him.

 

[Amadeus]

I think we can look to promote Spencer Carberry.

Mitch Love is a good candidate. Won AHL coach of the year, twice. He may actually get Calgary's head coaching gig.

I've always been a Todd Nelson admirer.

 

[kevsh]

Would you hire Brind'Amour if he becomes available.

What has he won?

In the past four years he's coached 48 playoff games, that's 18 more than Sheldon over the same period. And this year, despite several injuries to key players he led them to a Conference final.

But no, there are no SC finals or Cups in his tenure so he's not a legendary coach by any stretch but an improvement over Sheldon The Juggler? No doubt. Sign him in a heartbeat.

 

[ULF_55]

In the past four years he's coached 48 playoff games, that's 18 more than Sheldon over the same period. And this year, despite several injuries to key players he led them to a Conference final.

But no, there are no SC finals or Cups in his tenure so he's not a legendary coach by any stretch but an improvement over Sheldon The Juggler? No doubt. Sign him in a heartbeat.

I agree, he'd definitely get consideration.
There are Cup winners who likely should not get consideration, but might be fun to see how quickly some players fall into line or off the team.

 

[WillTheThrill]

Should have stuck with him.

No they absolutely shouldn't have.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Next Maple Leafs head coach odds: Quenneville, Gallant favoured over Keefe - NorthStar Bets Sportsbook

The Toronto Maple Leafs are in for some big changes this summer and a new head coach is certainly among the list of possibilities.

Kyle Dubas is out the door and that means Sheldon Keefe could be next. The field has the shortest odds, and there are four coaches — including Gerard Gallant and Joel Quenneville — deemed more likely than Keefe to stand behind the bench next season.

Here are the latest odds on who will be the next head coach of the Maple Leafs.
Next Maple Leafs head coach odds

Maple Leafs head coach candidates	Odds
Any other	+200
Gerard Gallant	+300
Andrew Brunette	+400
Joel Quenneville	+400
Spencer Carbery	+550
Sheldon Keefe	+600
Bruce Boudreau	+700

NHL odds as of 12:47 p.m. ET on 05/27/2023.