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Who is the softest team in the playoffs? Which team brings to most grit?
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I wouldn't be so sure, especially now that they added Meier who is very physical. Their fourth line plays a decent amount and is also very physical. I heard that Palat loves to get gritty in the playoffs. On the defensive side they don't hit a lot but they are big and use that to their advantage. Hamilton, despite being tall, is probably the softest. Marino is on the smaller side but somehow almost always win physical battles. Now, if by "grit" we mean fights, we might be the softest or one of the softest teams.
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Easily the softest and least gritty both physically but more importantly mentally
Easily the softest and least gritty both physically but more importantly mentally
Yup, would be extremely stupid to dress either guy under any circumstance. Leafs are playing great hockey without them, they provide nothing offensively, are liabilities defensively, but sure they hit and fight.
Jets the softest? LOL. What did you base that on?
Lowry, Dillon and the rest of the team just showed Minny that isn't true.
MN is less gritty with JEE out, but they are reasonably physical. Foligno and Reaves hit a lot, as does Duhaime. Hartman does, but I think they are trying to keep him more focused other things, as he is one of those guys who plays worse the more physical he gets. Boldy is much stronger this year… not overly physical, but he’s a bit strong guy. Dumba and Middleton are physical on the back end…. In general, I’d say that they are slightly above average grit wise.
I think the main thing is that your skilled players know how to play their game when the going gets a bit heavy… the days of goonery, and even heavy open ice hits are long gone. One 5 minute major can make the difference in a closely contested series.
I think the main thing is that your skilled players know how to play their game when the going gets a bit heavy… the days of goonery, and even heavy open ice hits are long gone. One 5 minute major can make the difference in a closely contested series.
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Based on the games the Leafs played vs them they were extremely soft on the puck especially their core forwards outside of Dubois. I think that is more important than hitting or whatever which they didn't really do much of either
I think they are somewhere in the upper middle of grit. Hyman, Kane, and a bunch of depth guys play the grindy role well and then you have Nurse and Desharnais who are pretty tough customers.
But I don't think that is their team identity whereas with Dallas for example they want to run you out of the building. I think the Oilers first gameplan is to generate odd man rushes and if physicality happens then it happens
OK, based on you watching two games. Thanks for the clarification rofl.
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I never claimed otherwise? I'd suggest 99% of posters here have only watched the games their team played vs other teams. I follow other western teams so yeah just going off of their record late in the season and what I saw, I think their big guns up front are soft and will get bullied by Vegas. Especially Wheeler and Schifele
Some Leafs fans on these boards make me laugh..
Mentioning Matthews, O'Reilly, and Knies in a thread that has to do with grit.
Majority of teams have like 6+ guys upfront who play with more grit than those 3.
I don’t think I've ever seen O'Reilly play physical, and I definitely don't recall him ever scraping. Don't let the big boy beard fool you.
Mentioning Matthews, O'Reilly, and Knies in a thread that has to do with grit.
Majority of teams have like 6+ guys upfront who play with more grit than those 3.
I don’t think I've ever seen O'Reilly play physical, and I definitely don't recall him ever scraping. Don't let the big boy beard fool you.
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Huh. I said they aren't soft. How does someone win a Smythe being soft? Matthews was about playing a physical brand of hockey. And Knies well.. You are just ignorant of Knies I guess because he is certainly not soft.
The other guys were the grit but regardless, people are allowed their opinions that's why I made the thread.
Leafs and NJ are the least tough (soft seems to disrespectful to good teams). but both teams best players aren't overly physical. I dont care if you brought in some 4th liner or 3rd pair tough guys, your team identity is set by the top of the lineup.
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Every fanbase in here is doing the same thing, pal.
Oilers game plan is usually to fly through neutral zone with speed for controlled zoned entries. And if you try and clog up the neutral zone or force dump ins absolutely hammer their Dmen on the forecheck.
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Agreed that is how you beat them but easier said than done because at some point you gotta score to win and that is when the Oilers get some space in the neutral zone. But slowing them down is key because it forces them to dump and chase. They can play that style of game but it's not their bread and butter.
Having dmen who can quickly move the puck in that scenario like the Avs had last year is critical because it allows you to counter attack a dump in and the Oilers are terribad when they are asked to defend the rush.
Notice how I didn’t comment on which team I thought was the softest. If the rest of you want to spew opinions based on complete ignorance without bringing up some metrics (size, weight, hits, fights, etc.), don’t mind me for chuckling, especially when you’re wrong.
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You could always ignore the thread if you have a problem with everyone's opinions.
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softest team is the softest core, so devils and leafs for softest.
grittiest i would measure it on ability to physically impose their will on other teams not hits. by that yardstick i'd say vegas.
grittiest i would measure it on ability to physically impose their will on other teams not hits. by that yardstick i'd say vegas.
Especially against Tampa, they aren't the bastion of physicality themselves. Leafs just need to play their game and unless Vasi is unstoppable (which could happen) they should beat Tampa this year.
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Knies will be fine, but that's Marc Staal who is a few years from being good, so that's not that impressive.
Might as well post clips of someone out battling Chris f***ing Wideman
