Who is the best goal scorer of all time and who are the top 10 all time in order?

[TheBig08]

I don't really have a top ten. I guess I can make one. I may get back to you with that. Like I said, Ovechkin is the most accomplished goal scorer. He would be my pick for greatest. As for best, it's between him, Lemieux and maybe Bobby Hull.

Your list contains the usual suspects. I assume you put much more emphasis on raw scoring ability than on goal finishes and times leading the League in goals (otherwise Bossy and Bure wouldn't be in the top five).

Cant wait to see your list. And as for how i got my list i did a lot of researching.

 

[TheBig08]

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I’ll bite; what’s the argument for Bure over a lot of those names? Gretzky being the big one. Fun player for sure, but Bure isn’t one of my top ten.

Lemieux
Gretzky
Ovechkin
Bobby Hull
Maurice Richard
Russell Bowie
Gordie Howe
Brett Hull
Charlie Conacher
Phil Esposito

whats your reason for wayne and mario over ovi and why do you think lemuiex is the best?

 

[TheBig08]

I would have no ground to judge Conacher vs peak Richard vs Bobby Hull, modern day my feeling would be Mario, but unlike Gretzky playmaking or Orr for 2 way defenseman play, no one really stand out enough to say.

Number wise career last time I looked it, would be around

Ovechkin
Richard
Lemieux
Hull and hull

When talking peak, Gretzky-Matthews-Bure would enter the conversation, for 2 others to round it to 10, Bossy-Selanne maybe, Esposito scored a lot and hard to keep out but so did Jagr, those 2 can be a bit underrated as goalscorer specially Jagr.

so u got ovechkin as the best and then your top 10
1. ovi
2. richard
3. lemuiex
4/5. brett/bobby
6. wayne
7. matthews
8. bure
9. bossy
10. selanne

Did i read that right?

Does not stand out enough:

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But like Jagr he is easy to dismiss because of everything else he did so well, I can see him up there, 801 goals is 801 goals

And i will say this jagr and howe had about the same amount of games played. jagr had 1733 games played, gordie howe had 1767, and jagr played in a higher scoring era but howe still had more goals than jagr. and even if jagr played an extra 34 he wouldnt have passed howe. now howe vs esposito and selanne for 10th is tough but i think either one of them over howe for 10th is agreeable but me personally i still got howe over them.

 

[rmartin65]

whats your reason for wayne and mario over ovi and why do you think lemuiex is the best?

I think they were more multidimensional as scorers. Ovechkin is an all time great, so this isn't me taking away from him at all. But 99 and 66 could be players and goalies in more ways than Ovechkin could.

Ovechkin will likely end up with the all time goal total, and I think he deserves it. But I also think that Gretzky and Lemieux (if he was healthy) would have scored more had they been more focused on scoring goals. I think they left some goals on the table over the course of their careers because they realized that they had the ability to increase their team's chance at a goal if they passed to a teammate.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Lemieux was the best on pure ability. Ovechkin being able to one time the puck from the same spot on the pp for about 10 years now doesnt change that for me.

 

[MadLuke]

Ovechkin being able to one time the puck from the same spot on the pp for about 10 years now doesnt change that for me.

let not act as if he did not had some of the most dynamics wrist shots and goals in the history of the league, Lemieux as just arguably the biggest toolkit ever.

 

[TheBig08]

It's very hard to isolate a particular skill and rank it -- and of course there's a lot more that goes into volume of goals scored than just the player's ability -- but anyway, I'll try (this is just NHL based, btw, if that wasn't obvious):

1. Mario Lemieux
2. Alex Ovechkin
3. Bobby Hull
4. Maurice Richard
5. Wayne Gretzky
6. Gordie Howe
7. Brett Hull
8. Mike Bossy
9. Phil Esposito
10. Jaromir Jagr / Pavel Bure / Auston Matthews

I feel like Charlie Conacher's and Jari Kurri's periods as elite goal scorers were just a tad too short to make the top 10.

It's still early days on Matthews, but if he can get another 60-ish goal season this year, maybe he kicks aside Jagr and Bure and starts to climb up the list further...

Why lemuiex over ovi?

Lemieux was the best on pure ability. Ovechkin being able to one time the puck from the same spot on the pp for about 10 years now doesnt change that for me.

who do you think is the best and your top 10 in order and if you have a reason/explaination or stats share them.

Also i think ovi is the best and here is my top 10 all time in order can you rate it.

1. Alex ovechkin
2. Mario lemuiex
3. Mike Bossy
4. Pavel Bure
5. Wayne Gretzky
6. Bobby Hull
7. Brett Hull
8. Maurice Richard
9. Gordie Howe
10. Auston Matthews

 

[TheBig08]

I would have no ground to judge Conacher vs peak Richard vs Bobby Hull, modern day my feeling would be Mario, but unlike Gretzky playmaking or Orr for 2 way defenseman play, no one really stand out enough to say.

Number wise career last time I looked it, would be around

Ovechkin
Richard
Lemieux
Hull and hull

When talking peak, Gretzky-Matthews-Bure would enter the conversation, for 2 others to round it to 10, Bossy-Selanne maybe, Esposito scored a lot and hard to keep out but so did Jagr, those 2 can be a bit underrated as goalscorer specially Jagr.

so u got ovechkin as the best and then your top 10
1. ovi
2. richard
3. lemuiex
4/5. brett/bobby
6. wayne
7. matthews
8. bure
9. bossy
10. selanne

Did i read that right?

Does not stand out enough:

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But like Jagr he is easy to dismiss because of everything else he did so well, I can see him up there, 801 goals is 801 goals

And i will say this jagr and howe had about the same amount of games played. jagr had 1733 games played, gordie howe had 1767, and jagr played in a higher scoring era but howe still had more goals than jagr. and even if jagr played an extra 34 he wouldnt have passed howe. now howe vs esposito and selanne for 10th is tough but i think either one of them over howe for 10th is agreeable but me personally i still got howe over them.