Who is Jason Zucker and why isn't anyone talking about him?

[Nharris31]

Interesting that in 41 games the previous two seasons he put up 8G and 2A.


This year his shooting percentage ballooned to 16% from an 11% average before.

Even in the AHL last year he was 8G 5A.


Certainly and ugly trend.


In 96 career NHL games he has 26G and 9A.

Take out his first 6 games in 2011-12 thats 90 games 26G 7A.

He was injured last year. Also this year pucks are finally gong in for him. He has always been able to score goals so it's not that surprising.

 

[tomgilbertfan]

Interesting that in 41 games the previous two seasons he put up 8G and 2A.


This year his shooting percentage ballooned to 16% from an 11% average before.

Even in the AHL last year he was 8G 5A.


Certainly and ugly trend.


In 96 career NHL games he has 26G and 9A.

Take out his first 6 games in 2011-12 thats 90 games 26G 7A.

Cool yeah let's cherry pick the AHL year where he dealt with injuries and ignore his healthy year where he put up 24 goals, 26 assists for 50 pts in 55 games. And lets ignore the fact he put up goal totals in College extremely similar to Parise (Zucker had 45 goals in 78 games, Parise had 49 goals in 76 games). But no those 90 games spread out over 2 years, one where he came back too soon from an injury must mean more than his healthy AHL year, this healthy NHL year, and his 2 healthy years in college.

 

[Biggs111]

BS: Zucker has always been a character guy who plays hard - you don't get named Captain to the US team for the WJCs by being lazy.

Yeo's problems with Zucker were more his failure to play Yeo's system than laziness.

Bingo....!

Ol' spurgie is now digging for reasons to defend his coach - the same guy who played the slug Heatley in almost 80 games last year and didn't see an issue with that...

Hey spurgie - what kind of numbers do you think Zuck would have put up last year if he only received a fraction of Heatley's tremendous time on ice - or how about some of the other veteran slugs...? Exactly - that is a coaching decision - and that is Yo yo...

Yo yo chose to sacrifice a ton of young talent last year in hopes that his lazy veterans would finally snap out of it...

Or how about right now? Why doesn't Yo yo have Zuck on the PP...? Or is that also not a Yo yo decision?

 

[rynryn]

his quote was taken when he was a one dimensional player, and probably the reason he was relegated to the minors. He only has 5 assists but his passing has been at the very least average this year, and he isn't afraid to try to set someone up when he doesn't have a great shot. I recognized his game away from the puck needed a lot of work, and just like Granlund the previous year he obviously checked off his off-season to-do list and came back ready to roll. He's naturally hyper aggressive with the puck, and i think he figured out a way to mentally temper that without stifling it and he's able to see the rest of the ice now (not just the net). I'm sure if you asked him he'd say relegation to the minors woke him up to reality--that his game had big holes. laziness was never one of them--if anything he was too...ping-pongy out there. he was always moving faster than he was thinking.

 

[Spurgeon]

BS: Zucker has always been a character guy who plays hard - you don't get named Captain to the US team for the WJCs by being lazy.

Yeo's problems with Zucker were more his failure to play Yeo's system than laziness.

Letters are useless. Look at Zucker's difference in play this year from the last few years. It's a night and day difference. Yeo has done a fine job of developing Zucker and making sure he can be a major part of this team. The national broadcasters yesterday were talking about it. Yeo deserves credit where credit is due.

 

[Spurgeon]

Bingo....!

Ol' spurgie is now digging for reasons to defend his coach - the same guy who played the slug Heatley in almost 80 games last year and didn't see an issue with that...

Hey spurgie - what kind of numbers do you think Zuck would have put up last year if he only received a fraction of Heatley's tremendous time on ice - or how about some of the other veteran slugs...? Exactly - that is a coaching decision - and that is Yo yo...

Yo yo chose to sacrifice a ton of young talent last year in hopes that his lazy veterans would finally snap out of it...

Or how about right now? Why doesn't Yo yo have Zuck on the PP...? Or is that also not a Yo yo decision?

- Zucker is on the PP. The PP has been fine the past 30 games, and are ~10th in those games with around a 20% PP. Zucker gets PP time, but the 1st line is sufficient enough.

- Zucker has been in the Top 6 for a majority of the season. After Yeo allowed him to earn the spot by letting him perform on the 4th line and then recognizing he deserved more ice time.

- Did you forget that Zucker was hurt last year? You do seem like the kind of fan that doesn't watch hockey a lot.

- Heatley was healthy scratched, but ya know, there were a ton of injuries last year. Heatley was getting Bottom 6 minutes for the most part, so again, irrelevant argument.

 

[plock]

his quote was taken when he was a one dimensional player, and probably the reason he was relegated to the minors. He only has 5 assists but his passing has been at the very least average this year, and he isn't afraid to try to set someone up when he doesn't have a great shot. I recognized his game away from the puck needed a lot of work, and just like Granlund the previous year he obviously checked off his off-season to-do list and came back ready to roll. He's naturally hyper aggressive with the puck, and i think he figured out a way to mentally temper that without stifling it and he's able to see the rest of the ice now (not just the net). I'm sure if you asked him he'd say relegation to the minors woke him up to reality--that his game had big holes. laziness was never one of them--if anything he was too...ping-pongy out there. he was always moving faster than he was thinking.

I agree his defensive play has improved quite a lot and hope his assist level does as well,not in place of his goal scoring but in addition to his goal scoring.

 

[Biggs111]

Yeo - is that you....?!?

 

[Cult of Hynes]

Formed those words poorly,I meant that I am not buying the excuse that all the guys he has played with cannot score.

They have both, more so babel, have not been scoring like they usually do, where have you been? Btw, you asked for a 40 goal score with ten assists? Rick Nash, his second NHL year he put up 41 goals and 17 assists.

 

[Spurgeon]

Yeo - is that you....?!?

Lrn2Quote

The hate for Yeo is unwarranted.

 

[Biggs111]

Lrn2Quote

The hate for Yeo is unwarranted.

Who said I hated Yo yo? I simply stated that I think what Zucker is doing/did is despite Yo yo and his coaching prowess - and then listed some examples...

You are the amateur who took a swipe at anyone who disagreed with your simplistic "opinion"... You have an opinion - we get it - now get over it...

So, R U Yeo...? Can you score me an autographed all star jersey from Heatley...?

 

[Mubiki]

Lrn2Quote

The hate for Yeo is unwarranted.

Indeed. The staff also did a fantastic job with Scandella.

People make too much out of him playing veterans. There are different philosophies on developing players. Hell, Babcock sits young guys forever, and he's s sure HOFer.

 

[plock]

They have both, more so babel, have not been scoring like they usually do, where have you been? Btw, you asked for a 40 goal score with ten assists? Rick Nash, his second NHL year he put up 41 goals and 17 assists.

17 is more than 10,math is hard.

 

[Spurgeon]

Who said I hated Yo yo? I simply stated that I think what Zucker is doing/did is despite Yo yo and his coaching prowess - and then listed some examples...

You are the amateur who took a swipe at anyone who disagreed with your simplistic "opinion"... You have an opinion - we get it - now get over it...

So, R U Yeo...? Can you score me an autographed all star jersey from Heatley...?

Yeo*

And what are you talking about? I'm not allowed to defend my opinion? And "simplistic?" Coming from the guy who thinks the development of a player rests solely in the players hands.

You didn't list any examples. You listed anecdotal BS about Heatley.

Zucker was hurt last year, he couldn't have played. Your examples make absolutely no sense.

- Zucker is on the PP

- Zucker is in the Top 6

What exactly are you *****ing about? Zucker didn't earn it last year and he couldn't play after he was injured. 5 points in 20 games isn't gonna cut it.

Yeo made Zucker earn it, and Zucker is a better player because of it. I guess the national commentators know nothing about hockey, I'll take it from an arrogant nobody on a hockey forum who calls Yeo, "Yo Yo."

 

[Minnewildsota]

Who said I hated Yo yo? I simply stated that I think what Zucker is doing/did is despite Yo yo and his coaching prowess - and then listed some examples...

You are the amateur who took a swipe at anyone who disagreed with your simplistic "opinion"... You have an opinion - we get it - now get over it...

So, R U Yeo...? Can you score me an autographed all star jersey from Heatley...?

This is a childish post.

 

[Mubiki]

This is a childish post.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[llp]

If the NHL didn't count secondary assists you'd have a point.

^this

Zucker isnt a selfish player. He has a shoot-first mentality and he's putting the puck in the net. There's nothing wrong with that - especially when we're over-stocked with playmakers, and in need of players that do have a shoot-first mentality.

 

[Poacher]

The sad thing is Zucker is the one player developed conventionally out of all the young guys on our team currently. I wish we would have treated Coyle and Granlund the same way. Brodin stepped in with little problems. I like what we are doing with Dumba currently but i dont think he is quite ready to step in full time.

 

[Cult of Hynes]

17 is more than 10,math is hard.

Oh man, that 7 more assists really means a lot eh? Dont be disingenuous, you knew what I was getting at.

 

[plock]

Oh man, that 7 more assists really means a lot eh? Dont be disingenuous, you knew what I was getting at.

40/10 is a 4:1 ratio 41/17 is just below a 2:1 ratio it is significantly different.

 

[frivolousz21]

Cool yeah let's cherry pick the AHL year where he dealt with injuries and ignore his healthy year where he put up 24 goals, 26 assists for 50 pts in 55 games. And lets ignore the fact he put up goal totals in College extremely similar to Parise (Zucker had 45 goals in 78 games, Parise had 49 goals in 76 games). But no those 90 games spread out over 2 years, one where he came back too soon from an injury must mean more than his healthy AHL year, this healthy NHL year, and his 2 healthy years in college.

Comparing him to Parise means Literally nothing.

In the NHL he is a minus above average one dimensional player.

Too only use healthy NHL season

Since November 1st be had been in 37 games.

599 minutes of ice time. 16 mins a game.

He has 3 assists.

One every 13 games getting top 5v5 mins.


In 42 mins on the pp this year. Equal to 21 full minor PPs of ice time.

He has zero points.

 

[Vashanesh]

Comparing him to Parise means Literally nothing.

In the NHL he is a minus above average one dimensional player.

Too only use healthy NHL season

Since November 1st be had been in 37 games.

599 minutes of ice time. 16 mins a game.

He has 3 assists.

One every 13 games getting top 5v5 mins.


In 42 mins on the pp this year. Equal to 21 full minor PPs of ice time.

He has zero points.

This is probably the only example the Wild have of a player needing an eye test. Stats do not do him justice.

There have been quite a few games this season where he's been the best player on the ice. He's one of the fastest skaters I have ever seen, and when he's completely engaged in the game, he's flat out dominant.

We compare him to Parise in the sense that he just works, and works, and works. It's not a 1:1 comparison in skill or production (outside of college) at the NHL level. The kid doesn't stop, and he's finally learning how to be really effective.

 

[rynryn]

I would agree the on-ice drive and motor are where he most resembles Parise and he's always had that. I don't think he's as relentless as Parise is but he's got a far better shot, and he's quite a bit faster. He WAS one dimensional no matter how badly defenders didn't want to see it but he took a very quick leap into well-roundedness and it's impossible (as a Wild fan) not to project what more experience will do for his game.

 

[Drewcifer]

If I was going to compare him to another Wild player it wouldn't be Parise. I'd say he is a poor man's young Gaborik with more grit and no glass groin.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

What a weird thread... A fan base having to justify why we like our 2nd leading scorer.