Who is Jason Zucker and why isn't anyone talking about him?

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On a team like ours, that's exactly the attitude we should want'. It's nowhere near selfish or immature.
The fact is Zucker is not involved in the scoring of his linemates that is a problem that is not negated by his speed or the fact that he has scored 18 goals this season.
 

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The Wild have too many players who are looking to make the extra pass. We need Zucker to be greedy because nobody else is and somebody has to actually score the goals.
 

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The fact is Zucker is not involved in the scoring of his linemates that is a problem that is not negated by his speed or the fact that he has scored 18 goals this season.

You're right. The aspect that this team is definitely lacking is guys passing up scoring opportunities to make that extra pass. If he was turning the puck over trying beat guys 1 on 1 or 1 on 2, you might have a shred of a point, but he's not, so you don't.
 

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I like his speed on the PK where he uses it to close down passing lanes. I'm pretty sure he also leads the Wild in short handed breakaways.
 

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He's on pace for 32 goals at only 23. I'm ok with him wanting to shoot first if he's gong to score 35 goals.

It's not like he doesn't ever pass, he's just shoot-first. Which is a good thing.

His passing is not that great it's an aspect of his game that he would be wise to improve because regardless of what you think he aint Ovechkin.
 

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The fact is Zucker is not involved in the scoring of his linemates that is a problem that is not negated by his speed or the fact that he has scored 18 goals this season.

Trust me - it is not Zucker's fault, it is his linemates that can't score. Not to mention the fact that he has not had the same linemates for more than a few games in a row all season.
 

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Trust me - it is not Zucker's fault, it is his linemates that can't score. Not to mention the fact that he has not had the same linemates for more than a few games in a row all season.

Yeah Pomminville and Vanek can't score in this league,nope not buying that.
 

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His passing is not that great it's an aspect of his game that he would be wise to improve because regardless of what you think he aint Ovechkin.

Wow just, you're reaching here. I never ever once brought up Ovechkin. I said 35 goals which is absolutely not out of the question.

I'm sorry, but if he gets 35 goals, I don't care how many assists he has. 35 goals is 35 goals. Not all players have more assists than goals either.
 

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Didn't think there was room on this team for the kid before the season started and thought it was all Nino for the future. Boy has he proved me wrong so far this season, and I'm loving it. So fast and loves to shoot. Such a fun player to watch.
 

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His passing is not that great it's an aspect of his game that he would be wise to improve because regardless of what you think he aint Ovechkin.

I actually have no argument with this, but it's still not a problem. He passes ok and cycles great, he's just not going to make that slick 'Granlund-type' primary assist, which is fine.
 

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Wow just, you're reaching here. I never ever once brought up Ovechkin. I said 35 goals which is absolutely not out of the question.

I'm sorry, but if he gets 35 goals, I don't care how many assists he has. 35 goals is 35 goals. Not all players have more assists than goals either.

No I brought up Ovie because he is often thought of as a selfish player the difference is he puts up way bigger numbers in both the G and the A column.I hope Zucker gets 35+ goals this year but I wouldn't bet any money on it.
 

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No I brought up Ovie because he is often thought of as a selfish player the difference is he puts up way bigger numbers in both the G and the A column.I hope Zucker gets 35+ goals this year but I wouldn't bet any money on it.

He almost certainly won't get 35 this year, but he's 23 and on pace to get 32 which means there's no reason to think he can't get 35 or maybe even 40 in the future. His lack of assists is not a problem.
 

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He almost certainly won't get 35 this year, but he's 23 and on pace to get 32 which means there's no reason to think he can't get 35 or maybe even 40 in the future. His lack of assists is not a problem.

Name me a 40-50 goal scorer who only got 10 assists,show me any of last years 30 goal scorers who had less than 20 assists.
 

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Name me a 40-50 goal scorer who only got 10 assists,show me any of last years 30 goal scorers who had less than 20 assists.

I don't care who has or hasn't done it in the past.
 

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I don't care who has or hasn't done it in the past.

It matters because it effects overall team scoring.It is really pretty easy if a player has 30 goals and 30 assists he is contributing to 60 team goals if he has 40 and 10 assists he is contributing to 50 team goals.Would you rather have 60 goals or 50?Also if he is scoring 40 goals he's likely on your top line if he only has 10 assists that means he is only contributing to 10 more goals from your top line,how is that not a problem?
 

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Eh, his lack of assists is kind of a fluke. The lack of production from the center position is affecting everyone's stats. And his linemates have primarily been Koivu and Pomminville since seeing larger amounts of icetime, and both of them aren't scoring goals the way they should.
 

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Eh, his lack of assists is kind of a fluke. The lack of production from the center position is affecting everyone's stats. And his linemates have primarily been Koivu and Pomminville since seeing larger amounts of icetime, and both of them aren't scoring goals the way they should.

Pommineville and Koivu both have more points than Zucker (less goals more assists) perhaps their lack of scoring has something to do with the guy who only has 5 assists.
 

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It matters because it effects overall team scoring.It is really pretty easy if a player has 30 goals and 30 assists he is contributing to 60 team goals if he has 40 and 10 assists he is contributing to 50 team goals.Would you rather have 60 goals or 50?Also if he is scoring 40 goals he's likely on your top line if he only has 10 assists that means he is only contributing to 10 more goals from your top line,how is that not a problem?

If the NHL didn't count secondary assists you'd have a point.
 

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He helps with that line's possession even if it doesn't translate into assists. He uses his speed to get to pucks first on the forecheck.
 

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Pommineville and Koivu both have more points than Zucker (less goals more assists) perhaps their lack of scoring has something to do with the guy who only has 5 assists.

Doubtful, since they've spent most of the season playing with other people.
 

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I can't believe that there's someone who has watched the Wild this season and is trying to downplay what he's done because he doesn't have enough assists
 

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