Who is Jason Zucker and why isn't anyone talking about him?

[Mubiki]

Except that a 2:1 goal to assist ratio isn't sustainable in today's NHL. Although goal scorers primarily don't look to pass they still create rebounds that would lead to accidental assists.

The best goal scorers get assists.

I agree. Which is why I've attempted to explain in the most objective fashion that I can why he has a crazy low assist total.

I could tell you that I've watched all but one Wild game and his playmaking and cycling ability, while not great, are certainly better than his assist total would suggest; but I don't place much weight in the anecdotal observation of a biased fan, and I certainly don't expect anyone else to.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

And I'm agreeing with you. In the cutest way.

 

[Mubiki]

And I'm agreeing with you. In the cutest way.

Haha. Touche.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

...other than the fact that I do place value in anecdotal evidence if the source knows their hockey.

 

[Sharppi]

******* you Zucker, even when you score a lot of goals, you're still doing things wrong. I guess that's why Yeo hates you. He'd probably want him to pass more, especially when on the breakaway.

Also, didn't Jeff Carter have something like 26+7 in the latest shortened season? Goddamnit Carter you suck. Get more assists.

 

[plock]

******* you Zucker, even when you score a lot of goals, you're still doing things wrong. I guess that's why Yeo hates you. He'd probably want him to pass more, especially when on the breakaway.

Also, didn't Jeff Carter have something like 26+7 in the latest shortened season? Goddamnit Carter you suck. Get more assists.

It's unusual for a player to have that much disparity between goals and assists.Nobody has a problem with Zucker scoring goals,but the fact that he only has 5 assists means the guys he is playing with are not scoring and the total team scoring is perhaps suffering.Why is this happening?Perhaps the players he is playing with just can't score.I am not buying that he has played with a wide range of different linemates this year and he has not been able to contribute to the scoring of his linemates in any situation,if he were playing exclusively with Cooke,Brodziak,Fontaine and Haula I can understand lower assist totals but he has been promoted for a few months now with no improvement.

 

[Sombastate]

He's actually from Vegas. Played against him a huge portion of my life. Whole family lives out here.

In fact I was the goalie coach for Evan's (his brother) midget team that he coached.

Funny tidbit, his name is not pronounced zooker. No idea why he said that.

 

[Brooklanders*]

No ones talking about Jimmy Hayes or Brandon Pirri for that matter also.

A lot of guys are flying under the radar?

How about Anders Lee or Matt Beleskey?

I don't see any threads about Victor Rask either.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Zooooker played a big chunk at the beginning of the season with RYAN CARTER AND KYLE BRODZIAK. 9 goals combined oh man. Can't forget he played with Matt Cooke before he got hurt too!

He has been playing with Pomms and Koivu lately who have a whopping 17 goals combined on the season. He hasn't played with goal scorers. He does that himself. His assists will come but complaining about that at this point of his career is down right ridiculous.

But wait! There are defensemen on the ice that are allowed to score goals, too! But not when it's MN. 23 combined goals from all defensemen this season. He should have assists on everyone of those goals... right?

EDIT: Matt Beleskey. 19 g 7 a

 

[Mubiki]

It's unusual for a player to have that much disparity between goals and assists.Nobody has a problem with Zucker scoring goals,but the fact that he only has 5 assists means the guys he is playing with are not scoring and the total team scoring is perhaps suffering.Why is this happening?Perhaps the players he is playing with just can't score.I am not buying that he has played with a wide range of different linemates this year and he has not been able to contribute to the scoring of his linemates in any situation,if he were playing exclusively with Cooke,Brodziak,Fontaine and Haula I can understand lower assist totals but he has been promoted for a few months now with no improvement.

You aren't buying it? That's interesting, because you are wrong. It's an objectively true statement; it's not debatable.

 

[Teppo]

Yeah Pomminville and Vanek can't score in this league,nope not buying that.

Despite the fact that Zucker has not played a whole lot with either of these guys, let me fill you in a bit. Sure Pominville and Vanek can score, but do you know how many point blanks (and I am talking wide open nets) the two of them have missed this season. There was a stretch where I was not sure if Pominville had a blade on his stick with the number of whiffs he had. The number of time Vanek passed up clear shooting opportunities has been mind boggling.

Try again.

 

[MilanKraft*]

Not enough goals in the nhl already and guys blabbing about bs assists...

He's already better than crosby , towes, Getzlaf. ...

Really think about how pathetic that is...

 

[Biggs111]

Another great part about Zucker is he isn't afraid to stand up for team mates - unlike 99% of those team mates who have zero grit...

And Yo yo should not be credited with Zucker's accomplishments - the way he constantly moved him up and down last year and the year prior - he has never allowed Zucker to be consistent - only bringing him up for a game or two with people he has never played with - even when producing - and then Yo yo putting him right back down to AHL...

Zucker flourished DESPITE his coach - and still - the coach does not give him prime time minutes or the PP... That is how messed up the coach is...

So Zucker deserved a ***** ton more credit than people on here are giving him - because he did all the heavy lifting himself... The only reason he is getting minutes now is because the coach cannot ignore him as much as he would like...

 

[CowbellConray]

Michael Grabner was awesome.

First name I thought of when Wild fans describe his game.

Hopefully when defensemen start to adjust to his game to take away his shot Zucker can create plays with his passing.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Holy ---- there are a lot people who are saying it is a problem that Zucker shoots firsts.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Maybe on some other team.

Definitely not on the Wild.

 

[Chrisinroch]

This thread illustrates a HFboards truism...

Many of the people commenting in a thread do not watch the team or player they are commenting about.

 

[TheeNorthStar]

Holy ---- there are a lot people who are saying it is a problem that Zucker shoots firsts.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Its actually incredible

 

[57special]

Zucker has game changing speed, and has the hands to finish. Any team has to love that, but the Wild especially need those attributes like they need to breathe. On top of that he has some grit, which further endears him to the Wild fans.

 

[Spurgeon]

Another great part about Zucker is he isn't afraid to stand up for team mates - unlike 99% of those team mates who have zero grit...

And Yo yo should not be credited with Zucker's accomplishments - the way he constantly moved him up and down last year and the year prior - he has never allowed Zucker to be consistent - only bringing him up for a game or two with people he has never played with - even when producing - and then Yo yo putting him right back down to AHL...

Zucker flourished DESPITE his coach - and still - the coach does not give him prime time minutes or the PP... That is how messed up the coach is...

So Zucker deserved a ***** ton more credit than people on here are giving him - because he did all the heavy lifting himself... The only reason he is getting minutes now is because the coach cannot ignore him as much as he would like...

Your memory must be really selective because Zucker was pretty lazy. Yeo is the reason Zucker has a work ethic like Parise, Yeo made him earn his spot. That's Yeo who developed him, not simply himself. I get it though, people are going to ***** about Yeo no matter what. Back to the Star Tribune comment section with you.

 

[plock]

You aren't buying it? That's interesting, because you are wrong. It's an objectively true statement; it's not debatable.

Formed those words poorly,I meant that I am not buying the excuse that all the guys he has played with cannot score.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

It's a relatively small sample size. You're over analyzing it.

 

[Nharris31]

It's obviously because the wild bought him

 

[10coach*]

I can count on one hand faster players in the league than Zuck and he may be the fastest.

 

[frivolousz21]

Interesting that in 41 games the previous two seasons he put up 8G and 2A.


This year his shooting percentage ballooned to 16% from an 11% average before.

Even in the AHL last year he was 8G 5A.


Certainly and ugly trend.


In 96 career NHL games he has 26G and 9A.

Take out his first 6 games in 2011-12 thats 90 games 26G 7A.

 

[Al Lagoon]

Your memory must be really selective because Zucker was pretty lazy. Yeo is the reason Zucker has a work ethic like Parise, Yeo made him earn his spot. That's Yeo who developed him, not simply himself. I get it though, people are going to ***** about Yeo no matter what. Back to the Star Tribune comment section with you.

BS: Zucker has always been a character guy who plays hard - you don't get named Captain to the US team for the WJCs by being lazy.

Yeo's problems with Zucker were more his failure to play Yeo's system than laziness.