Prospect Info: Who does LA pick #2? Part 2 To Byfield or to Stutzle? That is the question

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JD Burke is also the douche who clashed with Rosen for calling out his journalistic integrity, haha.

But of course they've 'looked' at Drysdale.
 
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I bet at one point the Kings "looked" at Lucas Raymond too, who could very well turn into a stud NHL'er. Hoven brought that up immediately after the Kings won the #2 pick, but that lasted all of one podcast/article. Likely the same with Drysdale. But those clowns in Canada probably get their news from LA on a 2 month time delay.
 
I bet at one point the Kings "looked" at Lucas Raymond too, who could very well turn into a stud NHL'er. Hoven brought that up immediately after the Kings won the #2 pick, but that lasted all of one podcast/article. Likely the same with Drysdale. But those clowns in Canada probably get their news from LA on a 2 month time delay.

Raymond is absolutely sick and I hope he ends up going before Anaheim's pick.

Supposedly DET is super high on Perfetti so it doesn't take much for Anaheim to get serendipity again.
 
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Raymond is absolutely sick and I hope he ends up going before Anaheim's pick.

Supposedly DET is super high on Perfetti so it doesn't take much for Anaheim to get serendipity again.

Yep, Raymond was my guy at #4 before the lottery. I fear that's likely what's going to happen.
 
If anything, it's a smoke screen with Blake playing games. If you truly wanted Drysdale, you trade down and pickup some asset(s). Taking Drysdale at #2 is horrible draft management. I don't see that ever happening here.

BTW, totally agree about Raymond...and fearing the Ducks luck out for the 2nd straight year with him.
 
Raymond is absolutely sick and I hope he ends up going before Anaheim's pick.

Supposedly DET is super high on Perfetti so it doesn't take much for Anaheim to get serendipity again.


Raymond was my number 3 guy behind Laf and Byfield. I feel someone may get a steel with him if just one guy slips up the rankings into the top 6.

as of today I think it goes

Lafreniere
Byfield
Stutzle
Perfetti
Rossi
Drysdale

anything can happen and hey, I wouldn’t be surprise at all if Blake or another GM goes off the board with Raymond but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see him fall. This draft is still so up in the air I think we will see a few shocking developments.
 
It’s not surprising that writers keep speculating about us maybe thinking about other players at #2. They are desperate for content and for something new with regards to LA. They have nothing new that’s real to talk about so we are getting hypothetical scenarios based on speculation and conjecture... aka “sources”. A random post on this site is a “source” and half the stuff written is based on little more in terms of value. I’m just ignoring it right now, until the likes of Dillman start making noises. She will know well before most of the experts that are currently being quoted and even then she will need to cover all the bases in any analysis. Possible scenarios are very different from probable ones... hell its possible they sign me.
 
Stutzle scored 7 goals in 41 games in the DEL. His shooting percentage was around 8%, which is like an Adrian Kempe like success rate in terms of goal scoring. Those are eyebrow raising numbers.

I would caution about using a one year shooting percentage sample. A few years back, there was one poster who was adamant that Brady Tkachuk was only highly ranked because of his last name (poster had a tag line on every post that was like "Tkachuk will bust").

Tkachuk had a decent freshman year at BU, but some were alarmed that he only scored 8 goals in 40 games. I pointed out Tkachuk only shot 6% that year which can be a little fluky, so there was a good chance he'd "improve" the following season if only by being closer to the mean. But instead the poster doubled down and "reasoned" that meant Tkachuk had stone hands. They dismissed the notion that he had a fluky season and instead thought "if he shoots 6% against college goalies, what's he going to do against pros?"

Same poster also badly used stats to "prove" that Oliver Wahlstrom was a better prospect than Tkachuk. The poster then quietly changed their user name probably after people pestered them a year later.
 
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I would caution about using a one year shooting percentage sample. A few years back, there was one poster who was adamant that Brady Tkachuk was only highly ranked because of his last name (poster had a tag line on every post that was like "Tkachuk will bust").

Tkachuk had a decent freshman year at BU, but some were alarmed that he only scored 8 goals in 40 games. I pointed out Tkachuk only shot 6% that year which can be a little fluky, so there was a good chance he'd "improve" the following season if only by being closer to the mean. But instead the poster doubled down and "reasoned" that meant Tkachuk had stone hands. They dismissed the notion that he had a fluky season and instead thought "if he shoots 6% against college goalies, what's he going to do against pros?"

Same poster also badly used stats to "prove" that Oliver Wahlstrom was a better prospect than Tkachuk. The poster then quietly changed their user name probably after people pestered them a year later.

I don't think anyone here is going that far as to say he's a lesser prospect, but his shot simply does not look good. It looks weak and inaccurate. It's different from being snake bit and being unlucky. That being said, if the Kings staff thinks it can be developed to an above average pro level and they draft him, I believe them. But from my perspective from watching years of the Kings shooting below league average, I'm sensitive to observations like that.
 
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And Kempe is an NHLer Strudel is not...what is he going to score in the NHL 4 goals his rookie year...let him play in the CHL and then see...don't compare the DEL to CHL or any other league...there are a lot of former NHL players playing well past their prime just to collect a paycheck...Just because he's German people think he's the next coming of Draisaitl...why's that? After reading and listening to a critique of Strudel's game I wonder whether he won't fall to 7-9 area maybe 10! If I was a scout or head scout I wouldn't want to stake my reputation on a Strudel...that kind of misfire gets you the unemployment line in a heartbeat! Kings will choose Byfield because he's the best of the rest by a wide margin after Lafreniere!!! No doubt about it! And Byfield is the kind of player that will push himself everyday and may some day pass Lafreniere...he has that kind of potential and drive!!!

I assure you accuracy is not holding him back. Did any of you watch the Germany vs Swiss junior friendlys this summer? In the last minute of the last game with Germany down 3-2 Stützle came down the ice and picked his corner(top chedd) to tie the game and send it to OT. The games overall looked slow. Like a scrimmage in summer practice. Regardless it was still extremely clutch and accurate.

Overall Stützle's mechanics for his shot are good, adding power to it is necessary, but an NHL coaching staff with a shred of competency could add velocity to his snap/wrist shot easily and relatively fast compared to other skill development.

As for 7 goals in the DEL its pretty silly to limit a players potential based on what he actually got through as a 17 year old against 30 year olds. That's like saying Raynond will suck because he only put up 10 points with 4 goal. I see that the board values Raymond, so now just take a second to soak in how silly the emphasis on only 7 goals is. What is more important is shot selection. Where did his shots come from and what kind of scoring opportunity did he have. If his shots came from the corner I'd be inclined to agree, but they don't. Most of his shots come in high scoring percentage areas and he does not explicitly avoid shooting. That should signal to a compent staff that goals will come. He will never lead the leauge in goals like OV or Stamkos, he is still ultimately a playmaker not a sniper, but I'd put money that he scores 30+ a few times with development.

As for everything else it does not really matter, elite prospects rankings mean less than shit to NHL scouts. If he does actually fall that would be amazing, No offense to Ottawa, but I'd prefer a major market snags him. You might need a reality check if you think Yzerman will pass on him as his staff has already shown they hold competition in the DEL to a level most of the NHL does not(currently looks like they were right to). They love Perfetti, but they love Perfetti because they do not believe both teams would be dumb enough to pass on Stützle. Regardless, I do hope LA passes. It's kind of at a point where it would be cruel to take the kid fans are so against. At the first sign of struggle the fans will turn on him because he's not the pick they wanted.

Plus, I now do not want your franchise to benefit from his success. When Stützle is ultimately putting up elite point production I genuinely hope it's for a different organization. The inevitable elite production, well it should go to club that is both happy they got the talent and knew he was capable of it. It really does not matter if he falls to 25th I'm still very confident the elite skill and IQ of Stützle will make him elite. Probably my last post, so I won't bother you guys anymore with pro Stützle stuff. In the end at least I'm genuinely hoping the kings take Byfield as well now.
 
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I assure you accuracy is not holding him back. Did any of you watch the Germany vs Swiss junior friendlys this summer? In the last minute of the last game with Germany down 3-2 Stützle came down the ice and picked his corner(top chedd) to tie the game and send it to OT. The games overall looked slow. Like a scrimmage in summer practice. Regardless it was still extremely clutch and accurate.

Overall Stützle's mechanics for his shot are good, adding power to it is necessary, but an NHL coaching staff with a shred of competency could add velocity to his snap/wrist shot easily and relatively fast compared to other skill development.

As for 7 goals in the DEL its pretty silly to limit a players potential based on what he actually got through as a 17 year old against 30 year olds. That's like saying Raynond will suck because he only put up 10 points with 4 goal. I see that the board values Raymond, so now just take a second to soak in how silly the emphasis on only 7 goals is. What is more important is shot selection. Where did his shots come from and what kind of scoring opportunity did he have. If his shots came from the corner I'd be inclined to agree, but they don't. Most of his shots come in high scoring percentage areas and he does not explicitly avoid shooting. That should signal to a compent staff that goals will come. He will never lead the leauge in goals like OV or Stamkos, he is still ultimately a playmaker not a sniper, but I'd put money that he scores 30+ a few times with development.

As for everything else it does not really matter, elite prospects rankings mean less than shit to NHL scouts. If he does actually fall that would be amazing, No offense to Ottawa, but I'd prefer a major market snags him. You might need a reality check if you think Yzerman will pass on him as his staff has already shown they hold competition in the DEL to a level most of the NHL does not(currently looks like they were right to). They love Perfetti, but they love Perfetti because they do not believe both teams would be dumb enough to pass on Stützle. Regardless, I do hope LA passes. It's kind of at a point where it would be cruel to take the kid fans are so against. At the first sign of struggle the fans will turn on him because he's not the pick they wanted.

Plus, I now do not want your franchise to benefit from his success. When Stützle is ultimately putting up elite point production I genuinely hope it's for a different organization. The inevitable elite production, well it should go to club that is both happy they got the talent and knew he was capable of it. It really does not matter if he falls to 25th I'm still very confident the elite skill and IQ of Stützle will make him elite. Probably my last post, so I won't bother you guys anymore with pro Stützle stuff. In the end at least I'm genuinely hoping the kings take Byfield as well now.


No, it's not like that at all. Raymond was buried and getting limited minutes. His production was easily explainable. Stutzle was getting force fed top minutes including power play time on a powerhouse team vs questionable defenses and goalies who were AHL starters at best.

The emphasis isn't on 7 goals or shooting percentage in a vacuum. It's based on a clear weakness that's manifesting in low goal totals, even at the WJC. For as often as the guy got to waltz into the slot, he lacks that killer goal instinct. That friendly you're mentioning--I'll link it below. Yeah, that GWG was a snipe. Watch how often he feebly hits the goalie right in the chest in the remainder of the highlights. It's a clear problem. It's mechanically lacking. And never mind getting it off quickly in traffic, even wide open with time to think, it's a crest sniping muffin. As you say a competent development team will be there with him and if that's his biggest weakness big whoop because look how awesome everything else is, but no one is saying he's terrible, they're just splitting hairs between the #1-#3 picks.

The guy is a sublime skater and playmaker and clear top-tier pick. That doesn't mean he's flawless, or he'd be #1 free and clear. And that doesn't mean we hate him. Other posters just prefer other prospects, and this is an area of potential improvement for him. A tangible weakness. But a correctable one.

But as far as the LA doesn't deserve him because this board is mean crap...kick rocks with that. Yeah you made an account just to pump Stutzle. Maybe stop the persecution complex and try to understand and contextualize the criticizm.




 
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I just hope the Kings pick whoever Yannetti tells them to pick.

we have a need for the following type of prospects:

Lafreniere type - no skilled power forward in system.

Byfield type- no one has a guy like him in system. 31 teams cover size and skill like this.

Stutzle - yep could use him too. size, elite speed, vision

Raymond - a way better Kupari, sign me up.

Drysdale - do we even have a righty with a chance? Would fill a need.

Askarov - even he could be used. Sit on a blue chip Franchise goalie for a couple years.

Holtz - dude is pure danger. We have Kaliyev but this guy does it differently. We need him too.

Now I don’t see a few of these at 2, but boy we would love to get prospects like them. I am not gonna say any of the top prospects suck, call them names or cry if Blake or Yannetti calls their name. I just really like the potential of Byfield’s ceiling. I can pick flaws out in every one of those prospects if I look hard enough but I can also pick out flaws in every NHL player if I spend enough time looking at video and reading reports. Every one of these guys has the potential to bust but each one of them also has the ability to be the best player out of the draft when all is said and done.

Can’t wait to see this unfold in another month.
 
Wonder if Askarov falls some to mid teens if Blake tries to trade into the round to get him. Be nice to have a blue chip goalie prospect we don’t have to rush.
 
Wonder if Askarov falls some to mid teens if Blake tries to trade into the round to get him. Be nice to have a blue chip goalie prospect we don’t have to rush.

I imagine if that happens it would end up being at least one or two of this year's seconds and maybe a lottery protected first-rounder. At least for a season before the protection gets waived.
 
I just hope the Kings pick whoever Yannetti tells them to pick.

we have a need for the following type of prospects:

Lafreniere type - no skilled power forward in system.

Byfield type- no one has a guy like him in system. 31 teams cover size and skill like this.

Stutzle - yep could use him too. size, elite speed, vision

Raymond - a way better Kupari, sign me up.

Drysdale - do we even have a righty with a chance? Would fill a need.


Askarov - even he could be used. Sit on a blue chip Franchise goalie for a couple years.

Holtz - dude is pure danger. We have Kaliyev but this guy does it differently. We need him too.

Now I don’t see a few of these at 2, but boy we would love to get prospects like them. I am not gonna say any of the top prospects suck, call them names or cry if Blake or Yannetti calls their name. I just really like the potential of Byfield’s ceiling. I can pick flaws out in every one of those prospects if I look hard enough but I can also pick out flaws in every NHL player if I spend enough time looking at video and reading reports. Every one of these guys has the potential to bust but each one of them also has the ability to be the best player out of the draft when all is said and done.

Can’t wait to see this unfold in another month.


Not to split hairs because not like Drysdale, but i'm high on Spence, and there's still Durzi and longshot Strand.
 
I think our goalie development has shown that we develop any kind of goalie no matter where they were drafted.
Quick: 3rd round
Petersen: 5th round
Villalta: 3rd round
Ingham: 6th round
Parik: 3rd round
I don't think we'll ever see the Kings draft a goalie higher than the 2nd round.
 
Not to split hairs because not like Drysdale, but i'm high on Spence, and there's still Durzi and longshot Strand.


I agree Spence intrigues me, but not a sure thing either. I really hope he continues his upward trajectory. I think he pays, just not sure if its second or third pairing.

I will never say I am giving up on a younger prospect but Durzi and Strand need a lot of work. Hopefully they can find that next level.

I like Drysdale but not as high on him as others. I think he plays in the modern NHL for a long time but I think guys like Hughes and Makar have sort of tainted to the positive our expectations and hopes for guys like Drysdale. I still think he projects to a player that would fall between a Doughty and a Voynov which is still a great player we could use and a player we don't have in our system.
 
I hope Guhle falls a bit and we make the play to move up for a second 1st. I don't think he does but man he has the skill, the physical size and play and the shot to be something better than expected. I like him way more than Sanderson.

As for defence I also think Barron has the tools to be something special. Injuries slowed him and it would have been great to see him progress. Any way he falls to us in the 2nd?
 
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