Whitecloud hit on Knies | Knies did not return to the game.

[Dreakmur]

It's not confusing at all, he was hit in the head with an elbow, but not the same head that was hit the other night when a game misconduct was called, this time it was a clean hit to the head.

Not the least bit confusing

Thank you for proving my point. Only confusing for those who don't know the rules.

NHL will be a no contact sport in the future once the research comes out they are done

Some jobs have risk. As long as the risks are know, the employees can make their choices.

 

[heretik27]

DoPS is so inconsistent... it's crazy that Whitecloud gets a pat on the back for leaving the ice and making contact with the head because he comes in at a direct angle and gets a big chunk of the body too.

Then there's Neal Pionk getting fined for "clipping" Jesper Boqvist in a perfectly executed hip check.

 

[Romang67]

NHL will be a no contact sport in the future once the research comes out they are done

You wager? Everyone and their mother knows exactly how damaging head trauma is. Meanwhile, we have UFC, which for all intents and purposes is a modern day gladiator event growing perhaps more than any other sports league right now.

People aren't unaware of the effects of head trauma. They ignore it, or view it as an acceptable tradeoff for the money.

 

[heretik27]

You wager? Everyone and their mother knows exactly how damaging head trauma is. Meanwhile, we have UFC, which for all intents and purposes is a modern day gladiator event growing perhaps more than any other sports league right now.

People aren't unaware of the effects of head trauma. They ignore it, or view it as an acceptable tradeoff for the money.

But but... Dana White doesn't pay his fighters!

 

[sampollock]

hate to see a guy get hit
but now fans in TO know how EDM feels

 

[Menzinger]

That’s assuming NHL players would like IHHF rules. I think if you ask them, they’d prefer NHL rules.

I think you'd get a pretty diverse range of answers. Both from how some guys play the game + also age

 

[Seras]

Thank you for proving my point. Only confusing for those who don't know the rules.

Exactly, Reaves should have hit the same head Whitecloud hit and not the other head.

Couldn't be more clear

 

[Craig Button]

After watching the NHL’s video in #366, I had to laugh at how your condescending posts aged like milk.

Nothing wrong with my posts

The Department of Player Safety of the NHL is the problem.

 

[Dreakmur]

Exactly, Reaves should have hit the same head Whitecloud hit and not the other head.

Couldn't be more clear

Cut!

This was an exceptional performance! You deserve an Oscar for this portrayal of a CTE victim.

 

[SENStastic]

It was a clean hit, dont get what the crying is all about. Unfortunate Knies got his socks rocked but Whitecloud had skates on the ice at impact, elbows and shoulders were down, Knies was leaning downward and crouched over watching the puck instead of being alert of his periphery. Head will invariably get clipped as well when you're leaning like that but it wasn't a head hunt at all, it was towards the chest and unfortunately the head also was involved when you're compromised in that kind of situation. But it was clean, that's part of the game.

 

[All Mod Cons]

hate to see a guy get hit
but now fans in TO know how EDM feels

Sorry, you think TO fans don't know how it feels to have their players take bad hits?

You do know that TO play the Bruins in the playoffs practically every year right?

 

[ottawa]

hate to see a guy get hit
but now fans in TO know how EDM feels

And Habs fans after that POS Ridley Greig hit Dach

 

[Mattb124]

Nothing wrong with my posts

The Department of Player Safety of the NHL is the problem.

DOPS applied the rule exactly as written and how it has long been interpreted. The problem lies with your lack of reading comprehension and power of observation.

 

[Golden_Jet]

And Habs fans after that POS Ridley Greig hit Dach

Or Sens fans after that POS AHLer Arber Xhejak

 

[PB37]

I'll be honest... I don't like the hit. Looks like Whitecloud is in the early stages of exploding up into the hit when contact is made, which by itself isn't that bad and the starting point of a lot of great open ice hits. But the replay I saw from behind Knies, there appears to be significant head contact and the result was an injured player. If there's another replay from the side or front that shows otherwise, maybe that's why the NHL saw.

 

[ottawa]

Or Sens fans after that POS AHLer Arber Xhejak

How are sens fans still bent out of shape about this hit. It wouldn't have happened if not for the actual AHLer Greig

 

[SENStastic]

I'll be honest... I don't like the hit. Looks like Whitecloud is in the early stages of exploding up into the hit when contact is made, which by itself isn't that bad and the starting point of a lot of great open ice hits. But the replay I saw from behind Knies, there appears to be significant head contact and the result was an injured player. If there's another replay from the side or front that shows otherwise, maybe that's why the NHL saw.

There is a better a view of the hit from the benches that is much closer, you can see it here:



pretty clear what went on from 1:27-1:32 mark, the closeup angle from the bench shows it was clean. The other angle from a distance is not the best one to look at and judge.

 

[BFLO]

NHL has made it clear that as long as you also hit through the body, that head contact is considered incidental.

Whitecloud hit Knies through the chest. So it doesn't matter that he also got his head.

Reeves hit Nurse in the head, and hit nothing else.

I disagree with the NHL on this and think they should change it. But I think they have made it clear what the rule is... at least for now.

 

[AcerComputer]

With Nurse coming back tonight, I wonder if Knies will miss as many games or more. Will be interesting.

 

[PB37]

There is a better a view of the hit from the benches that is much closer, you can see it here:



pretty clear what went on from 1:27-1:32 mark, the closeup angle from the bench shows it was clean. The other angle from a distance is not the best one to look at and judge.

I still see significant head contact from that replay from the bench. He might get shoulder/arm first, but to me, there's enough force to the head to where this should have been a suspension. Guess the NHL feels differently.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I still see significant head contact from that replay from the bench. He might get shoulder/arm first, but to me, there's enough force to the head to where this should have been a suspension. Guess the NHL feels differently.

They called it by the rule book.

The other way is the IHHF and IOC? way. If head ever comes in contact, during hit.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

I still see significant head contact from that replay from the bench. He might get shoulder/arm first, but to me, there's enough force to the head to where this should have been a suspension. Guess the NHL feels differently.

It's technically written in the rules. I don't like the hit either, but until they just make head contact itself an automatic penalty, it's a good non-call.

 

[Seras]

It was a clean hit, dont get what the crying is all about. Unfortunate Knies got his socks rocked but Whitecloud had skates on the ice at impact, elbows and shoulders were down, Knies was leaning downward and crouched over watching the puck instead of being alert of his periphery. Head will invariably get clipped as well when you're leaning like that but it wasn't a head hunt at all, it was towards the chest and unfortunately the head also was involved when you're compromised in that kind of situation. But it was clean, that's part of the game.

It was a very clean head shot, I don't know why the league is trying to remove head shots from some while allowing others.

Leave em all in, players will learn to keep their heads up

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

Clean hit. Skates on the ice at impact. Knies needs to keep his head up.
Reaves should be suspended at lenght. Targeted the head. Plus, he can't play hockey.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

DoPS is so inconsistent... it's crazy that Whitecloud gets a pat on the back for leaving the ice and making contact with the head because he comes in at a direct angle and gets a big chunk of the body too.

Then there's Neal Pionk getting fined for "clipping" Jesper Boqvist in a perfectly executed hip check.

Whitecloud didnt leave the ice, until after the check.

It was a clean hit.

I still see significant head contact from that replay from the bench. He might get shoulder/arm first, but to me, there's enough force to the head to where this should have been a suspension. Guess the NHL feels differently.

Knies should try skating with his head up, theres no other way for whitecloud to initiate a check there, unless he takes out his knees.