Whitecloud hit on Knies | Knies did not return to the game.

Dreakmur

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It's not confusing at all, he was hit in the head with an elbow, but not the same head that was hit the other night when a game misconduct was called, this time it was a clean hit to the head.

Not the least bit confusing

Thank you for proving my point. Only confusing for those who don't know the rules.

NHL will be a no contact sport in the future once the research comes out they are done

Some jobs have risk. As long as the risks are know, the employees can make their choices.
 

heretik27

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DoPS is so inconsistent... it's crazy that Whitecloud gets a pat on the back for leaving the ice and making contact with the head because he comes in at a direct angle and gets a big chunk of the body too.

Then there's Neal Pionk getting fined for "clipping" Jesper Boqvist in a perfectly executed hip check.
 

Romang67

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NHL will be a no contact sport in the future once the research comes out they are done
You wager? Everyone and their mother knows exactly how damaging head trauma is. Meanwhile, we have UFC, which for all intents and purposes is a modern day gladiator event growing perhaps more than any other sports league right now.

People aren't unaware of the effects of head trauma. They ignore it, or view it as an acceptable tradeoff for the money.
 
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heretik27

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You wager? Everyone and their mother knows exactly how damaging head trauma is. Meanwhile, we have UFC, which for all intents and purposes is a modern day gladiator event growing perhaps more than any other sports league right now.

People aren't unaware of the effects of head trauma. They ignore it, or view it as an acceptable tradeoff for the money.

But but... Dana White doesn't pay his fighters!
 

SENStastic

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It was a clean hit, dont get what the crying is all about. Unfortunate Knies got his socks rocked but Whitecloud had skates on the ice at impact, elbows and shoulders were down, Knies was leaning downward and crouched over watching the puck instead of being alert of his periphery. Head will invariably get clipped as well when you're leaning like that but it wasn't a head hunt at all, it was towards the chest and unfortunately the head also was involved when you're compromised in that kind of situation. But it was clean, that's part of the game.
 

PB37

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I'll be honest... I don't like the hit. Looks like Whitecloud is in the early stages of exploding up into the hit when contact is made, which by itself isn't that bad and the starting point of a lot of great open ice hits. But the replay I saw from behind Knies, there appears to be significant head contact and the result was an injured player. If there's another replay from the side or front that shows otherwise, maybe that's why the NHL saw.
 

SENStastic

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I'll be honest... I don't like the hit. Looks like Whitecloud is in the early stages of exploding up into the hit when contact is made, which by itself isn't that bad and the starting point of a lot of great open ice hits. But the replay I saw from behind Knies, there appears to be significant head contact and the result was an injured player. If there's another replay from the side or front that shows otherwise, maybe that's why the NHL saw.
There is a better a view of the hit from the benches that is much closer, you can see it here:



pretty clear what went on from 1:27-1:32 mark, the closeup angle from the bench shows it was clean. The other angle from a distance is not the best one to look at and judge.
 

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NHL has made it clear that as long as you also hit through the body, that head contact is considered incidental.

Whitecloud hit Knies through the chest. So it doesn't matter that he also got his head.

Reeves hit Nurse in the head, and hit nothing else.

I disagree with the NHL on this and think they should change it. But I think they have made it clear what the rule is... at least for now.
 

PB37

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There is a better a view of the hit from the benches that is much closer, you can see it here:



pretty clear what went on from 1:27-1:32 mark, the closeup angle from the bench shows it was clean. The other angle from a distance is not the best one to look at and judge.


I still see significant head contact from that replay from the bench. He might get shoulder/arm first, but to me, there's enough force to the head to where this should have been a suspension. Guess the NHL feels differently.
 

Golden_Jet

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I still see significant head contact from that replay from the bench. He might get shoulder/arm first, but to me, there's enough force to the head to where this should have been a suspension. Guess the NHL feels differently.
They called it by the rule book.

The other way is the IHHF and IOC? way. If head ever comes in contact, during hit.
 

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I still see significant head contact from that replay from the bench. He might get shoulder/arm first, but to me, there's enough force to the head to where this should have been a suspension. Guess the NHL feels differently.
It's technically written in the rules. I don't like the hit either, but until they just make head contact itself an automatic penalty, it's a good non-call.
 

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