Proposal: Which fan base would do this trade Matthew Knies For Jesper Wallstedt

Which fan base would do this trade and if so why?

  • Neutral fan would do the trade

    Votes: 25 5.0%
  • Neutral fan would not do the trade

    Votes: 213 42.8%
  • Toronto fan would do the trade

    Votes: 63 12.7%
  • Toronto fan would not do the trade

    Votes: 97 19.5%
  • Minnesota fan would do the trade

    Votes: 8 1.6%
  • Minnesota fan would not do the trade

    Votes: 92 18.5%

  • Total voters
    498

thestonedkoala

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Aug 27, 2004
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If I said knies is a top line NHL player and Wallstedt is an AHL goalie, it's technically correct but obviously done in bad faith but you have 0 problem pretending Knies is what he is at 21 while Wall has unlimited potential?
Let's say Knies hits his potential, which some people put him as a Blake Wheeler type. And let's say Wallstedt hits his potential, which I know is lazy but Lundqvist. I wouldn't trade Lundqvist for Wheeler.
 

Namikaze Minato

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Apr 30, 2009
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Let's say Knies hits his potential, which some people put him as a Blake Wheeler type. And let's say Wallstedt hits his potential, which I know is lazy but Lundqvist. I wouldn't trade Lundqvist for Wheeler.
I dont disagree at all. I also think Wallstedt is a better prospect than Knies but using the argument of "Knies is only this while Wallstedt could be his max potential!" is disingenuous.
 

seanlinden

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Apr 28, 2009
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Let's say Knies hits his potential, which some people put him as a Blake Wheeler type. And let's say Wallstedt hits his potential, which I know is lazy but Lundqvist. I wouldn't trade Lundqvist for Wheeler.

Honestly.. that's not such a cut & dry thing either.

Sure, in isolation you can certainly say that Wheeler has more value than Lundqvist, but if Winnipeg already has Hellebuyck, then you're probably not doing that deal...

And therein lies the challenge. Goalies can either have immense value to the point of being untradable (the true #1 guys), or they're backups, and sort of a "who cares" approach.

If Wallstedt develops into what everyone thinks he's capable of, he's untouchable... but if he stops a little short of that, he's just reasonable tandem goalie and guys like that are very easy to find and replace.

Knies may not turn into Blake wheeler putting up multiple 90 point easons and a bunch more in the high 60s to mid 70s... but even if he's a guy that's a consistent 60 point guy who occasionally gets into the 70s; he'd still be a very valuable player.
 

yzerman

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Apr 23, 2017
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Sweden
Knies loking like a stud with 7 goals already this season maybe the scale is tipping over to his advantage in this poll?i am especially interested to se if Minnesota is more willing now to trade Wallstedt for Knies?My feeling when i did this poll was they where very close.
 

yzerman

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Apr 23, 2017
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Sweden
People who has voted in this poll is more than welcome to change thier votes to se the poll maybe change if they think different now with the start of this season the players has had thanks.
 

I am Canadian

AM34|WN88|MM16
May 22, 2008
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2,817
Toronto
While I feel the same way about poster's mocking Leaf fans for wanting to keep Knies, this is way too early to make any kind of call on Wallstedt.
 

Obvious Fabertism

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Apr 1, 2009
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Knies loking like a stud with 7 goals already this season maybe the scale is tipping over to his advantage in this poll?i am especially interested to se if Minnesota is more willing now to trade Wallstedt for Knies?My feeling when i did this poll was they where very close.
No, nothing has changed in regards to organizational needs or Wallstedt's potential in the Wild org. He is a very young goalie still and the Wild's AHL team is nothing like the NHL team when it comes to structure, for a positional goalie, that is extremely important. Fleury retiring is known following this season, goalie is not a position that we can trade away.

Knies as a left handed powerforward is much more redundant in the Wild org as well, Boldy, Kaprizov, Foligno, Trenin are all maintstays and Ohgren is their prospect version of that role. The Wild would not use a premium asset on that player type when they have other needs.
 

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