Speculation: Where will Darren Raddysh sign? (Answer: Rockford)

DisgruntledHawkFan · Jun 20, 2017

Cardiac_Canes said:
Doesn't make sense at all to sign an ahl deal today just to sign an NHL deal a few days later.

Players sign ahl deals when they can't at the time get an NHL contract.

If he doesn't plan on signing with the Hawks it makes even less sense to sign with Rockford of all places.

Cardiac Jerks · Jun 20, 2017

DisgruntledHawkFan said:
If he doesn't plan on signing with the Hawks it makes even less sense to sign with Rockford of all places.

Maybe they offered him the most money or playing time?

Maybe he will eventually sign with the hawks after they've seen how he adjusts to the pros. It just won't be in a few days because that makes no sense whatsoever.

Henkka · Jun 20, 2017

Next OHL overager to be busted in NHL. If he ever makes there.

Teemu · Jun 20, 2017

I think the Hawks just broke the entry-level contract for late bloomers.

If Raddysh signed an ELC, he could only make 70k this year, since he probably isn't making the team out of camp. However, its my understanding that under an AHL contract, the Hawks can pretty much pay him whatever they want. Why not take a few hundred thousand guaranteed rather than a more modest 70k and just sign a contract next year? And of course, the Hawks get a free roster spot.

This could be the new norm for UDFAs. And, of course, it greatly favors financially gifted teams like Chicago.

VoluntaryDom · Jun 20, 2017

Why AHL?

DisgruntledHawkFan · Jun 20, 2017

Teemu said:
I think the Hawks just broke the entry-level contract for late bloomers.

If Raddysh signed an ELC, he could only make 70k this year, since he probably isn't making the team out of camp. However, its my understanding that under an AHL contract, the Hawks can pretty much pay him whatever they want. Why not take a few hundred thousand guaranteed rather than a more modest 70k and just sign a contract next year? And of course, the Hawks get a free roster spot.

This could be the new norm for UDFAs. And, of course, it greatly favors financially gifted teams like Chicago.

Eh, I don't see it. They'd have zero guarantee the kid stays. Is he not eligible for a one way contract?

Teemu · Jun 20, 2017

DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Eh, I don't see it. They'd have zero guarantee the kid stays. Is he not eligible for a one way contract?

Nope. Two-year ELC only.

Cubs2024wildcard · Jun 20, 2017

Good signing again for the Hawks.

Love the Hawks agressiveness in poaching these types of players.

Work out, great
Bust, oh well.

LeafChief · Jun 20, 2017

Teemu said:
I think the Hawks just broke the entry-level contract for late bloomers.

If Raddysh signed an ELC, he could only make 70k this year, since he probably isn't making the team out of camp. However, its my understanding that under an AHL contract, the Hawks can pretty much pay him whatever they want. Why not take a few hundred thousand guaranteed rather than a more modest 70k and just sign a contract next year? And of course, the Hawks get a free roster spot.

This could be the new norm for UDFAs. And, of course, it greatly favors financially gifted teams like Chicago.

This makes a lot of sense. Smart management.

Cardiac Jerks · Jun 20, 2017

Teemu said:
I think the Hawks just broke the entry-level contract for late bloomers.

If Raddysh signed an ELC, he could only make 70k this year, since he probably isn't making the team out of camp. However, its my understanding that under an AHL contract, the Hawks can pretty much pay him whatever they want. Why not take a few hundred thousand guaranteed rather than a more modest 70k and just sign a contract next year? And of course, the Hawks get a free roster spot.

This could be the new norm for UDFAs. And, of course, it greatly favors financially gifted teams like Chicago.

That's not really how it works. Yes, any two way deal will have an nhl salary and a much lower Ahl salary attached to it but there is usually a guaranteed salary listed as well that is somewhere in between so he would not just make 70k.

Chicago hasn't discovered some genius business move to save money, they just didn't think he was worthy of an nhl deal.

Canada4Gold · Jun 20, 2017

even if this were a way to get him more money for the time being, assuming Chicago thought he was an actual NHL prospect eventually if he panned out he would have to sign an NHL deal. Unless he was over the age of 24 he'd have to sign an ELC for 1 year then to get into the league(more than likely a 2 year ELC assuming it doesn't take 3 years). Whereas if he got his ELC out of the way now he'd make more then. Is the extra little bit of money now worth it to him? And is working around that worth it to the Hawks who could basically "lose" him at any moment if he decides it's better elsewhere if a team offers him a deal and an NHL spot?

I figured he'd get an NHL deal but nobody offering him one seems more believable than a convoluted workaround that doesn't really make sense for either party

Booba · Jun 20, 2017

Doesn't mean he'll sign an NHL contract soon but technically he can't be signed by an NHL team until July 1st.

He could have signed an NHL deal in April but that window has closed a long time ago.

mouser · Jun 21, 2017

Teemu said:
I think the Hawks just broke the entry-level contract for late bloomers.

If Raddysh signed an ELC, he could only make 70k this year, since he probably isn't making the team out of camp. However, its my understanding that under an AHL contract, the Hawks can pretty much pay him whatever they want. Why not take a few hundred thousand guaranteed rather than a more modest 70k and just sign a contract next year? And of course, the Hawks get a free roster spot.

This could be the new norm for UDFAs. And, of course, it greatly favors financially gifted teams like Chicago.

He could make $160k+ this year on a standard ELC. Teams can include 10% of the NHL compensation as a signing bonus.

Bubba88 · Jun 21, 2017

with the AHL Deal, he'll get more Money.

PG Canuck · Jun 21, 2017

DisgruntledHawkFan said:
If he doesn't plan on signing with the Hawks it makes even less sense to sign with Rockford of all places.

Why does it matter? For all we know Rockford offered the best chance/icetime over anyone else.

DisgruntledHawkFan · Jun 21, 2017

PG Canuck said:
Why does it matter? For all we know Rockford offered the best chance/icetime over anyone else.

Clearly you've never heard of/been to Rockford.

PG Canuck · Jun 21, 2017

DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Clearly you've never heard of/been to Rockford.

What does Rockford have to do with it? Raddysh is trying to carve out an NHL career and clearly he thought this was the best opportunity/chance to work on his game at the professional level - he's not picking a vacation spot.

JaegerDice · Jun 21, 2017

PG Canuck said:
What does Rockford have to do with it? Raddysh is trying to carve out an NHL career and clearly he thought this was the best opportunity/chance to work on his game at the professional level - he's not picking a vacation spot.

Rockford is a bad team. Chicago pilfered their best players for the nhl roster last season.

If he's trying to build his case for an NHL contract, there are FAR better teams to do it.

DisgruntledHawkFan · Jun 21, 2017

PG Canuck said:
What does Rockford have to do with it? Raddysh is trying to carve out an NHL career and clearly he thought this was the best opportunity/chance to work on his game at the professional level - he's not picking a vacation spot.

What does the city he agreed to live in/play in have to do with it can't seriously be your answer.

PG Canuck · Jun 21, 2017

DisgruntledHawkFan said:
What does the city he agreed to live in/play in have to do with it can't seriously be your answer.

You're right, he should've picked a nicer city with less opportunities in a system that doesn't suit him because that's how your further your career along. Really it's pointless as we don't know what Rockford offered or told him, but it quite clearly convinced him enough to sign there. I think he can handle Rockford for a little while.

PG Canuck · Jun 21, 2017

JaegerDice said:
Rockford is a bad team. Chicago pilfered their best players for the nhl roster last season.

If he's trying to build his case for an NHL contract, there are FAR better teams to do it.

So it seems like he will get a boatload of icetime then? Maybe that's what others couldn't offer? Do you have a list of any other teams he was talking to that would be better for him?

Toews2Bickell · Jun 21, 2017

He's gonna sign with Chicago.

DisgruntledHawkFan · Jun 21, 2017

PG Canuck said:
You're right, he should've picked a nicer city with less opportunities in a system that doesn't suit him because that's how your further your career along. Really it's pointless as we don't know what Rockford offered or told him, but it quite clearly convinced him enough to sign there. I think he can handle Rockford for a little while.

We'll agree to disagree then. What kind of odds do you want to put on him signing with Chicago vs Vancouver?

DisgruntledHawkFan · Jun 21, 2017

Doughboy Cashout said:
He's gonna sign with Chicago.

Shocked I tells ya! Shocked!

TLEH · Jun 22, 2017

Its just an AHL deal, doesn't even mean he is going to sign with the Hawks.

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