Where did Yzerman go wrong with the rebuild?

[Ulysses31]

No seriously - Where did the rebuild go wrong?


Because its looking pretty good to my eye.

i think a lot outsiders get critical and confused by the amont of stop gaps/ insulating vets SY signs and the high dollars that were paid out to some mediocre players.

but what they fail to see is the sucess of the rebuild lives or dies on the success of drafted players and a shytty ufa signing doesnt matter much compared to 1) drafting the right players n 2) give them an optimal environment to develope in. 3) building team 1st culture

ppl saying the the yzerplan have failed to see the yzerplan hasnt arrived yet.

 

[Lampedampe]

I'm not a massive fan of him signing so many mediocre D-men and ultimately creating a log-jam on defense. Let's be honest Edvinsson should be entering his second full year this year, and the team would have been in a better position as a result. It's not like the vets are solid either, the 5on5 defense is what is holding this team back.

But regardless of that, Yzerman started on ground zero really. The only real trade bait he had was AA, Bertuzzi, Mantha and Hronek. The prospect pool was non-exsistent.

Looking at the pre-season and camp rosters excites me for the future, so many solid prospects knocking on the door. The addition and Tarasenko, Debrincat and Kane is great, and honestly underrated GM:ing.

Cap structure looks great aswell.

If we had one of Bedard, Fantilli or Carlsson on the roster people would be all in on the Yzerplan, but why, because he got lucky?

 

[Lampedampe]

I'm not a massive fan of him signing so many mediocre D-men and ultimately creating a log-jam on defense. Let's be honest Edvinsson should be entering his second full year this year, and the team would have been in a better position as a result. It's not like the vets are solid either, the 5on5 defense is what is holding this team back.

But regardless of that, Yzerman started on ground zero really. The only real trade bait he had was AA, Bertuzzi, Mantha and Hronek. The prospect pool was non-exsistent.

Looking at the pre-season and camp rosters excites me for the future, so many solid prospects knocking on the door. The addition and Tarasenko, Debrincat and Kane is great, and honestly underrated management.

Cap structure looks great aswell.

If we had one of Bedard, Fantilli or Carlsson on the roster people would be all in on the Yzerplan, but why, because he got lucky?

Calling them mediocre is probably abit generous of me... Holl and Petry are actually terrible.

 

[Henkka]

I really like how they have now tools to add speed on the team.

Like adding Motte, how fast Kasper is and how great skater Danielson is.

I saw a lot of critizism from my Finnish DET-friends of seeing Red Wings being too slow versus other NHL-teams. Cutting Perron was the first move to right direction, and these young guys will make big difference very soon.

Not from the 1st day, but very soon.

Adding speed will change the transition game balance, and also, adding better 1st pass defencemen will enchance that too.

This could make a big change, which no one can't predict, because predictions are always based on the past.

 

[Dotter]

Calling them mediocre is probably abit generous of me... Holl and Petry are actually terrible.

UFAs were lining up around the corner to come sign short(er) contracts with a team that was a few years removed from one of the worse seasons recorded in NHL modern history.

Players that signed were either Michigan guys that wanted to have an opportunity to wear the sweater they grew up loving, or NHL rejects... or both. I doubt Yzerman sugar coated DRWs trajectory to UFAs.

 

[Gniwder]

UFAs were lining up around the corner to come sign short(er) contracts with a team that was a few years removed from one of the worse seasons recorded in NHL modern history.

Players that signed were either Michigan guys that wanted to have an opportunity to wear the sweater they grew up loving, or NHL rejects... or both. I doubt Yzerman sugar coated DRWs trajectory to UFAs.

Holl is from MN, and Petry was acquired in a trade.

 

[Dotter]

Holl is from MN, and Petry was acquired in a trade.

Exactly. NHL Reject, and Petry is a Michigan boy with a M-NTC.

 

[Gniwder]

Exactly. NHL Reject, and Petry is a Michigan boy with a M-NTC.

You don't shell out $3.4M x 3 years to someone you think is a reject. Fischer/Motte contracts are what you expect.

Petry's NTC is a 15 team list. Not sure if the Wings make that list even if he wasn't a hometown guy. From what I read California teams are always on the list due to high taxes, and Canadian teams are typically on American players lists.

 

[Dotter]

You don't shell out $3.4M x 3 years to someone you think is a reject. Fischer/Motte contracts are what you expect.

Petry's NTC is a 15 team list. Not sure if the Wings make that list even if he wasn't a hometown guy. From what I read California teams are always on the list due to high taxes, and Canadian teams are typically on American players lists.

I don't think you understand my original post you are quoting. Maybe I am a bad communicator, but the post has lots of likes. So I'm not sure where the disconnect is.

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

I'm not a massive fan of him signing so many mediocre D-men and ultimately creating a log-jam on defense. Let's be honest Edvinsson should be entering his second full year this year, and the team would have been in a better position as a result. It's not like the vets are solid either, the 5on5 defense is what is holding this team back.

But regardless of that, Yzerman started on ground zero really. The only real trade bait he had was AA, Bertuzzi, Mantha and Hronek. The prospect pool was non-exsistent.

Looking at the pre-season and camp rosters excites me for the future, so many solid prospects knocking on the door. The addition and Tarasenko, Debrincat and Kane is great, and honestly underrated GM:ing.

Cap structure looks great aswell.

If we had one of Bedard, Fantilli or Carlsson on the roster people would be all in on the Yzerplan, but why, because he got lucky?

Log jam? These plebs gotta beat out Ben chariot Gustafson and holl? If they can't then that's on them lol.

 

[odin1981]

Please forget this speculative schit, because gettin better defencemen earlier would have prevented getting these defencemen we have now.... :/

They'll improve the team, and then we don't draft that high etc. At least Edvinsson will fall out for sure. Seider could have been there anyways.

We could have had Seider + Dobson on each top 4 pairing with Edvinsson.

 

[Pavels Dog]

We could have had Seider + Dobson on each top 4 pairing with Edvinsson.

I like to imagine we could have had Broberg & Holtz instead of Seider & Raymond to balance things out. No team hits on all their picks.

 

[FMichael]

I like to imagine we could have had Broberg & Holtz instead of Seider & Raymond to balance things out. No team hits on all their picks.

Kenny that you?