I agree, it's the same reason the women's professional hockey doesn't pay as well as NHL.
When will we see the first $20m a year player in the NHL?
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Bergevin sent me an offer sheet
Watch it be Celebrini. If not him probably Landon DuPont.
I predict he's the first rookie that wins the Norris.
I predict he's the first rookie that wins the Norris.
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Yes, the exception to the rule is certainly the best example to use - and if Matthews gets a bad injury this season?
I doubt your average high school-educated NHL athlete knows much about finances, but hey, everyone remembers when a player signs a "Show Me" bridge contract that works out but not the 100s of other short-term "I bet on myself and lost" contracts that failed because of injuries, stalled development, etc.
Professional athletes, especially in hockey, have short careers for earnings potential. Even superstars can lose lots of potential money very quickly with bad choices in RFA/UFA negotiations.
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And that still doesn’t change the fact that players are trying to land on a 8 year deal in their early 30’s not late 20’s
Pretty easy to grasp
too soon.
2032 McKenna right after his bridge deal coming off the ELC
Celebrini has become comically overrated. He's not of the Bedard, Michov, McKenna, DuPont ilk in terms of generational potential
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Matthews is at what 13.25 millions.
3% a year inflation/revenus grow and we would reach 20 millions in about 14-15 years, 5% would take 8-9, 2% would take like 20 something.
Really hard to predict, league revenues grow, cap rules for max contract, there is a world where league revenues decline instead of growing and that never happen, average nhl fan age, cable tv difficulty, giant competition for eye balls... would not be that surprising if it peaked and it is just raw barely following inflation no actual grow from here if not decline.
3% a year inflation/revenus grow and we would reach 20 millions in about 14-15 years, 5% would take 8-9, 2% would take like 20 something.
Really hard to predict, league revenues grow, cap rules for max contract, there is a world where league revenues decline instead of growing and that never happen, average nhl fan age, cable tv difficulty, giant competition for eye balls... would not be that surprising if it peaked and it is just raw barely following inflation no actual grow from here if not decline.
Sergei Federov made $28 million in 1998.
Oilers will probably give McDavid around 16x8 so not for awhile. If Bedard and Celebrini along with other top young guys pan out then they’ll probably get to 20M on their 2nd contracts assuming they don’t get bridge deals on their first deals.
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Whoever is the next generational player coming off an entry level contract will get 20 million. Won't be until atleast 2029 though.
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Sooner than you think… Kaprizov is getting at least 16M in his next deal. McDavid could get 20 if he wants it.
I do wonder when superstars will start demanding the max (by percentage), and shorter multi-year contracts so they can keep getting the max rate as it shifts over time. With the cap steadily rising each year, long contracts lock you into the market rate at the start, but then it's outdated within 18 months or so. McDavid should probably be signing two-year or three-year deals at ~20 percent of the cap.
I think the answer is it will happen when the league's best player decides he should be paid like it. The NHL's best players have taken substantially less for a while now, by choice.
I think the answer is it will happen when the league's best player decides he should be paid like it. The NHL's best players have taken substantially less for a while now, by choice.
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Me.
It's me.
I can't even skate.
Last I tried was in the early 80s. Ankles all splayed out like some idiot.
But I keep dreaming I'm in Hockeyland where I'm my size (6'4, ....uh...210 lbs...yeah).
Am slow on my skates, but takeaways and possession through the roof.
I score at least twice a game because of it.
On that weird "L" shape ice.
But, yeah. I'm pretty good.
It's me.
I can't even skate.
Last I tried was in the early 80s. Ankles all splayed out like some idiot.
But I keep dreaming I'm in Hockeyland where I'm my size (6'4, ....uh...210 lbs...yeah).
Am slow on my skates, but takeaways and possession through the roof.
I score at least twice a game because of it.
On that weird "L" shape ice.
But, yeah. I'm pretty good.
Pre salary cap, wasn't Jagr's salary in his final season with Pittsburgh something like $17 million(including bonuses)? That's crazy considering it was 25 years ago.
MadLuke
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A year (average of the contract) is quite different than peak year salary via bonus.
A bit like Matthews ?
But since 2019, steadily could be generous
A bit less than 0.95% a year, from 2006 to 2011 it would been great, injury career (or greatness) ending is always right around the corner and if the long contract make it possible to do like Tavares and be frontloaded early bonus heavy your money is likely to growth faster than the cap to balance things out.
And the cap not growing at all like the last 6 seasons is also always possible.
McDavid making 15 millions the first year, 10 millions by the end reproduce this a bit.
A bit like Matthews ?
But since 2019, steadily could be generous
- 2018-19: $79.5 million
- 2019-20: $81.5 million
- 2020-21: $81.5 million
- 2021-22: $81.5 million
- 2022-23: $82.5 million
- 2023-24: $83.5 million
A bit less than 0.95% a year, from 2006 to 2011 it would been great, injury career (or greatness) ending is always right around the corner and if the long contract make it possible to do like Tavares and be frontloaded early bonus heavy your money is likely to growth faster than the cap to balance things out.
And the cap not growing at all like the last 6 seasons is also always possible.
McDavid making 15 millions the first year, 10 millions by the end reproduce this a bit.
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McDavid could go on a 1-3 year contract for sure or arbitration awards him 18+/yr
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I’m just saying if he went to the market someone would be willing to give him 20 (when the cap rises over 100M)
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Regarding the issue of 20 percent of the cap being too much for one player and a competetive NHL team we're in a situation right now where the Wild is kind of showing that it could be feasible. They still have the dead cap space of 14.7 million yet actually lead the league as of now. Theoretically, CBA allowing, Kaprizov could currently have a cap hit of 23.7 million with the Wild still leading the league. Just an observation.
As a number of posters stated or hinted at, the fly in the ointment is that pesky rule about no player getting more than 20% of the cap.
I doubt the cap will hit $100M by the time McDavid hits UFA.
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2000: Jaromir Jagr made $17 million, which is about $26 million in 2021 dollars
That's not true at all. I don't know much about basketball but there are only 5 players on the court and some of them play the whole game, so it's a different thing. But MLB... on the Jays there are only 5 players making more than Matthews. And 10 players making less than a million, what is basically entry level money in the NHL. In a system without a hard cap.
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The real question is if there were no salary cap in the NHL what would Mcdavid get? I am guessing like 40 million a year or something, it is insane with how freaky good McDavid is he is only making a few million more a year than some above average players, I wonder if it bothers him that he is getting paid so little compared to the elites in other sports.
