When does the Yzerplan start getting criticized?

[BB88]

He’s been the GM since 2019
Edmonton was in the bottom of the league in 2006 or 2007 I believe (somebody can fact check for me)

Took them 10 years to get back into the playoffs and be relevant. Also helped they got some luck in drafting McDavid.


Rebuilds take time. Get over it, just because you’re used to finishing quickly doesn’t mean that’s how a franchise’s roster and prospect pool is rebuilt in the same timely fashion.

Yes because everyone knows Edmonton is the model franchise to look up to and compare every rebuild…..

Detroit started drafting in the top10 in 2017 and had Larkin, their 1C in the system and are still nowhere to be seen but yes great work by them

 

[Pavels Dog]

Yes because everyone knows Edmonton is the model franchise to look up to and compare every rebuild…..

Detroit started drafting in the top10 in 2017 and had Larkin, their 1C in the system and are still nowhere to be seen but yes great work by them

Why are you talking 2017 in the "let's hate on yzerman" thread?

 

[nbwingsfan]

So you’ve decided to jump full on to fantasy land and if if if plan.

Maybe you should just sell Larkin, he’s 28y already and the way you are doing it you’ve wasted his entire prime in this rebuild and will need to look for another 1C….



Again I say cute if you think you are in any way build the same way as those teams.

You seriously have to even ask with how Eichel- Marchessault- Stone played?

Both Eichel& Marchessault played at Conn Smythe level and RoR won Selke& Conn Smythe during Blues run & Detroit isn’t build even close to the same as them

Of course the Wings aren’t built the same. Because all of their best players/prospects are 23 and under and outside of 3 aren’t even on the damn yet

You do realize that YOU would have been called crazy if you picked Pastrnak to be a top 10 forward when he was drafted… and then he became one …

You literally writing off forwards who are 22 years and under… including one who was drafted 4th overall, is above where Pastrnak was at the same age.

Why are you talking 2017 in the "let's hate on yzerman" thread?

Because he’s starting to realize how poor his argument is and is wildly reaching at this point.

 

[Dotter]

I'll ask.. do you feel Raymond will be at a Panarin/Kucherov/Pasta/Matthews/McD/Drai/MacK/Stevie Y/Fedorov tier at some point in his Red Wing's career?

No. Probably more inline with Henrik Zetterberg level. A player you can build a cup team around. Not elite like McDavid tho-

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

A new GM probably wouldn't have a new strategic vision but could probably be better tactically at all of the things that a GM does -- starting by maybe signing good players in UFA to reasonable contracts instead of bad ones to bad contracts!

I also don't see how a team that signs Kane and Tarasenko to a combined $10m in the offseason is doing anything other than trying to compete this year.

Kane and Tank on short term deals don't inhibit the Wings going forward. SY didn't think the young kids were ready, so hopefully that changes next year.

 

[Dotter]

When a GM lands both of Seider at #6 and Raymond at #4 who are some of the best in their respective draft, then he just bought himself an additional 4 years.

Those two picks alone proves Yzerman is one of the best GMs in the league. It's clear to anyone paying attention that yzerman isn't shooting for short term mid success. He's trying to build another dynasty. That takes time.

His prospect pool looks pretty dam deep. Only needs to hit on a few key players. I think Cossa is going to be one of those key players.

 

[Czechboy]

No. Probably more inline with Henrik Zetterberg level. A player you can build a cup team around. Not elite like McDavid tho-

Perfect comparison.. totally agree

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

The fact that they haven't been able to even get cups of coffee despite the NHL club severely lacking talent is not a good sign, especially considering the volume of picks they've had in that time frframe.

Feels weird to defend the DRW, but SY and the organization aren't known for giving guys a cup of coffee. IMO, the 2019/20 ish guys should be ready for the roster, and there will be spots available next year.

Just one of those cases IMO where it's OK to be optimistic, that is what being a fan is all about.