When does the Yzerplan start getting criticized?

[OVO16]

If the wings miss the playoffs this year, what are we saying about Yzerman

 

[JediOrderPizza]

If the wings miss the playoffs this year, what are we saying about Yzerman

People will troll about Copp and Holl still while most Wings fans are eyeing the thing that matters. The prospects.

This defense needs a god damn overhaul tho. I'd like to see a move on that finally.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

Blues? Vegas?

You’re seriously telling me that ROR (Selke winner, 31st in scoring in his Cup year), Eichel (10th place scoring finish in his last full year in BUF), and Stone (11th place scoring finish and Selke finalist 2 years before Cup) are equal to or worse than Raymond/Larkin, neither of whom have ever finished as high in scoring as even ROR in his Selke year?

 

[JediOrderPizza]

You’re seriously telling me that ROR (Selke winner, 31st in scoring in his Cup year), Eichel (10th place scoring finish in his last full year in BUF), and Stone (11th place scoring finish and Selke finalist 2 years before Cup) are equal to or worse than Raymond/Larkin, neither of whom have ever finished as high in scoring as even ROR in his Selke year?

I believe Larkin is equal to ROR and Eichel in his cup form yes. He's been a PPG center for three seasons now.

 

[jfrank21]

I believe Larkin is equal to ROR and Eichel in his cup form yes. He's been a PPG center for three seasons now.

Ryan O'Reilly had a career high 77 points in 82 games when he was 27...in what world has Larkin ever come close to that??
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Oh wait, that's right, here in the real world Larkin has had 69 in 71, 79 in 80 and 69 in 68 the past 3 season as a 25, 26, and 27 year old. Meanwhile, the "superstar" Jack Eichel had a career high 82 points in 77 games 6 years ago. Now granted, Eichel is doing well to start this season, but just because he was drafted #2 overall, doesnt make him this elite tier player compared to Larkin.

 

[Reality Check]

People will troll about Copp and Holl still while most Wings fans are eyeing the thing that matters. The prospects.

On the plus side, Senators fan extraordinaire Jimmy Apples finally got banned.

 

[Oddbob]

Watch him play.

Seen him play, he isn't elite. Less than ppg and no other intangibles are not elite numbers. Visually nothing elite either.

On the plus side, Senators fan extraordinaire Jimmy Apples finally got banned.

He was the most obnoxious Sens fan on here.

Is he banned or suspended? And what did he do?

 

[ricky0034]

seeing people bring up the same 1-2 teams that arguably won without elite talent over and over again in this thread is honestly so tiresome

personally even if for the sake of argument you assume the Wings have comparable players like people keep insisting i'd actually like a higher bar than "these 2 examples in the past couple decades prove that it's not literally impossible for my team to win!"

 

[JediOrderPizza]

seeing people bring up the same 1-2 teams that arguably won without elite talent over and over again in this thread is honestly so tiresome

personally even if for the sake of argument you assume the Wings have comparable players like people keep insisting i'd actually like a higher bar than "these 2 examples in the past couple decades prove that it's not literally impossible for my team to win!"

It's not the model I would follow, I answered a question is all. We don't know what we have yet.

 

[ricky0034]

It's not the model I would follow, I answered a question is all. We don't know what we have yet.

to be clear it's more of a general comment than anything directed at you specifically

it just feels like every time I open this thread I see people talking about Vegas or St. Louis dozens of times dating back to the beginning of this thread

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

Ryan O'Reilly had a career high 77 points in 82 games when he was 27...in what world has Larkin ever come close to that??
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Oh wait, that's right, here in the real world Larkin has had 69 in 71, 79 in 80 and 69 in 68 the past 3 season as a 25, 26, and 27 year old. Meanwhile, the "superstar" Jack Eichel had a career high 82 points in 77 games 6 years ago. Now granted, Eichel is doing well to start this season, but just because he was drafted #2 overall, doesnt make him this elite tier player compared to Larkin.

Take a look at the league scoring rates in the years they did that. Eichel (and Stone)‘s scoring placements were not comparable at all to Larkin’s. ROR’s we’re, but he won a Selke.

 

[Reality Check]

He was the most obnoxious Sens fan on here.

Is he banned or suspended? And what did he do?

Not sure as I wasn't around.

But he was bounced after mocking the Lions Aiden Hutchinson breaking his leg versus the Cowboys yesterday. Several posts, I might add.

 

[norrisnick]

seeing people bring up the same 1-2 teams that arguably won without elite talent over and over again in this thread is honestly so tiresome

personally even if for the sake of argument you assume the Wings have comparable players like people keep insisting i'd actually like a higher bar than "these 2 examples in the past couple decades prove that it's not literally impossible for my team to win!"

What else are you supposed to do without lottery picks falling in your lap? Just wish them into existence?