WarriorofTime
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He's projected at about 74 for reference.Gamebreakers aren't our problem. You guys can keep sleeping on Raymond but when he puts up 90+ points
He's projected at about 74 for reference.Gamebreakers aren't our problem. You guys can keep sleeping on Raymond but when he puts up 90+ points
I don't know where they're going to get their gamebreakers from. When you get to the playoffs you need a MacKinnon, or Barkov, or Eichel even. People bring up the prospects that they have but the problem is that every single team in the NHL has players already on the roster or prospects of that level, even the bottom feeder teams do.
I'm not sure what you mean by that.it's been wash-rinse-repeat with the roster since then with give or take the same results.
Every team in a rebuild needs to sign vets to plug into the roster untiil the kids are ready. That is understandable.I'm not sure what you mean by that.
But no. Yes in a sense that there is spot plugs signed into the roster until the youth come of age to be ready to contribute, no in the sense is the team is on a path, improving every year the last four seasons, and its on its way.
Every single of those players were on the team when they drafted both McDavid and Draisaitl… what are you talking aboutDoesn’t that add up to a decade of losing? In Tampa Yzermsn had true superstars to build around. Yes, he wasn’t there when the club won, but he did have great players. Currently the Wings don’t have that level of player. It’s highly unlikely drafting 7-15 is going to get a guy of that level either, which is probably where they will be drafting. IMO the Wings are where the Oilers were, and other rebuilding clubs, back when they had a young Hall, Eberle, Nuge. They were missing the superstar level guys. They had to trade away much of that club and sink to the bottom and rebuild again.
It’s hilarious how Copp is both terrible (he is) and yet somehow helped the Wings win a bunch of gamesmaybe by 1 year. could have did 1 more yr of tanking instead of signing copp n co. that said they got a great player in kasper that draft.
ultimately they did continue to build through the draft IMO, that is why the prospect pool is brimming with talent. they signed the fillers to give them time to develope.
Who else has proven good enough to be in the RW core at this point? I like the pipeline that SY has built, but that's only potential until proven otherwise.Good thing that's not the core I guess?
Well if we go by what's been drafted since 2019 (taking into account Veleno and Berggren is from 2018) and players through that time either on the team or with a chance getting there:Every team in a rebuild needs to sign vets to plug into the roster untiil the kids are ready. That is understandable.
Yzerman joined for the 2019 draft. For their opening day roster, only Seider, Raymond, and Edvinsson made it out of rd 1, with Johannsen as well from rd 2.
Question is how close are those other kids from rounds 2-3, if at all? Because you can't just rely soley on first rounders coming out of a rebuild.
Translation - "GM says give me unlimited time, everything is right on track"
Not a Blackhawks thread, stay on topicOr set this thing called realistic expectations. Your team is about to find out first hand. Blackhawks are bad. bad. What 1-9-1 in their last 10 regular season games? And your team was gifted a generational talent.
Not a Blackhawks thread, stay on topic
Start a new thread if you want to discuss.No, let’s compare! That's exactly the response I'd expect after reviewing Blackhawks record since their GM joined Chicago in 2021. They are trending all over the place and only have Bedard to show for it. If you want to talk about failure.... look no further than the windy city.
And both outcomes have been the same: neither teams made the playoffs.No, lets compare! That's exactly the response I'd expect after reviewing Blackhawks record since their GM joined Chicago in 2021. They are trending all over the place and only have Bedard to show for it. If you want to talk about failure.... look no further than the windy city.
Yzerman has Detroit trending up at a steady pace while getting robbed out of 1st overall picks. He still lands some of the best players in their respective draft. That's elite GMing right there.
Oh cool so we're bringing this thread back after a single loss
yeesh that's going to mean a hell of a lot of thread bumps this yearOh cool so we're bringing this thread back after a single loss
Well Oilers have been lucky 4 times drafting 1st overalls and drafted the 2 best players in the world plus Bouchard, Hopkins etc. They havent won anything after a decade and still have weaknesses. As i said, you need more than good drafting to win a cup. You need good trades, good developement program, good coaches and assistants. Does Detroit have all of that after 5 years of Yzerman? I dont think they have.
So Yzerman needs to draft a McDavid and a Drisatle or the club is destined to be bad? Yup. I agree.Every single of those players were on the team when they drafted both McDavid and Draisaitl… what are you talking about
It’s hilarious how Copp is both terrible (he is) and yet somehow helped the Wings win a bunch of games
That’s some weird mental gymnastics you’re trying to pull after making a blatantly false statementSo Yzerman needs to draft a McDavid and a Drisatle or the club is destined to be bad? Yup. I agree.
Next season.when do 'reasonable' wings fans expect to make the playoffs?
Don’t exactly know how Yzerman will draft (or get) the elite talent the Wings need to be a good club when picking 7-15. Maybe his team just sits in that middle?That’s some weird mental gymnastics you’re trying to pull after making a blatantly false statement
Next season.
If none of Kaspar, Edvinsson, Danielson, Mazur, Cossa arent making a meaningful contribution then it’ll be really concerning.
They’ll be a bubble team this year most likely, which is pretty meaningless in the long term since there’s like 4 players who will/should still be on the team in a year or two
when do 'reasonable' wings fans expect to make the playoffs?