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Speculation: When Does Bruno Get The Boot?

When does Trotz pull the plug on Brunette?

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LCPreds said:
Do we really even want Bruno to be fired at this point? Or better to ride it out, get the good pick, and replace him in the offseason?
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I still want him to be fired... if he's going to hold back the development of any of our young players. Things like sending down Evangelista or waiving Parssinen are still real risks to me. Now, possibly you could lay those things at the feet of Trotz instead and argue they could still happen under a new coach, of course.

I am ultimately ok with "letting the chips fall where they may" in terms of where we end up in the standings. So long as the team is playing good/entertaining hockey, allowing fair evaluation of young talent, and overall adhering to some at least broad concept of running a performance-based meritocracy instead of a pure gerontocracy. If our young talent playing more ends up with us getting a #10 pick instead of a #3 pick, I'll take that. 54 more games of shitty hockey and everybody just mailing it in and finger-pointing is not going to be good for anybody.
 
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LCPreds said:
Do we really even want Bruno to be fired at this point? Or better to ride it out, get the good pick, and replace him in the offseason?
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Depends on if he can switch gears and be more constructive with the younger/future players

Ill also add this:

If only getting 1 goal against two of the worst teams in the NHL after several other losses didnt get him fired, im not sure what will.
 
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Scoresberg said:
On the other hand, the new guy (Taylor?) would probably play the kids more which would be beneficial for the future. The end result for this season would most likely be the same.
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This is why I hope for Taylor as the replacement. Give him the "interim" tag, fine, whatever. But if you bring another veteran from the Usual Suspects NHL coaching carousel (even Laviolette) then they feel like they have a certain winning reputation to uphold, etc, and probably fall back to some of the same tendencies in terms of over-reliance on the veteran players. They might implement a better and more successful system - it would be hard to do worse on that front than Bruno has. But it still isn't likely to be all that much different in terms of integrating youth into the lineup. :dunno:
 
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It's comments like this that make me want Bruno gone even if him remaining coach is better for our tank. The ego of thinking that every player on the team deserves to be scratched and not taking a step back to wonder if its actually a coaching problem. I teach and it's pretty typical to have students who struggle, but if my entire class was failing then I pretty clearly should take a step back and wonder if my teaching methods are the problem. Like no doubt the players deserve some blame here to but when the problems are across the board somethings got to give.
 
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At this point, I am resigned to a losing season. We need to use every roster spot (and, IMO, the coaching position) for evaluating new talent. Bruno will not do that. Bring in Taylor, let him play the kids, and let's see what both he and them have. Move out whoever is not part of our long term plan (ROR, Nyquist, Carrier) for futures. Bring on projects from other teams (like Fabbro and Tomasino, ironically) and see what they can do.
 
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I guess my thinking is we’re already around 35-40% through the season and currently sitting tied with Chicago for the first pick. Let’s not mess that up at this point.

With that said, the org has to be all in on this thinking. So I’m fully aligned that if Bruno or Trotz continue to mess with/completely dump the young talent then changes must be made because that’s the complete opposite of what a robust rebuilding plan should even look like.
 
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Mentions specifically McCarron being a -10.... ignores we waived Fabbro who at -3 was alot better than carrier -10+ or traded Tomasino at his 0 or send evangelista who is one of the few positive territory players to the pressbox or Pärssinen who has been largely net neutral since the disaster of a first game with the 4th line or Novak who is only a -1. All the players doin the best in terms of plus/minus are getting the least leash to play with.
 
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The ONLY thing I can say to slightly defend Brunette is that early on, I do think there was some shooting/puck luck holding the team back and they were playing a fair bit better than their record. The longer this is going on though, it looks like the losing has had a compounding effect and guys are simply not playing with effort and execution (particularly certain vets, mostly the newer ones). As said, it looks like he's lost the team and they've implied as much in the media. So yeah, some bad luck was involved but it's long past the point that he should have made substantive changes to try to get it turned around.
 


Another infuriating comment. I get the point that you can't let the players run the team, but we're playing terribly and have multiple guys who have led teams to a Cup on our roster so maybe they should get a bit more say than usual. I swear it's like Brunette thinks his coaching resume looks like John Cooper's when really it looks a lot more like John Hynes's. I'm also increasingly convinced they guy Stamkos held his tongue about calling out was Brunette.
 
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Below is a comment that I just saw from one of the guys that covers the Preds.

Was talking with a buddy that covers the Panthers and asked why he thought they didn’t keep Andrew Brunette. His take: management wasn’t sold on his ability to make the right adjustments when the talent on the roster stopped carrying the team. Also noted he doesn’t know how to coach anything other than the high-octane fly down the ice kind of system and when that doesn’t work he doesn’t know how to adapt

Take what you will from that information. Just thought I’d pass it along.
 
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ShagDaddy said:
Below is a comment that I just saw from one of the guys that covers the Preds.

Was talking with a buddy that covers the Panthers and asked why he thought they didn’t keep Andrew Brunette. His take: management wasn’t sold on his ability to make the right adjustments when the talent on the roster stopped carrying the team. Also noted he doesn’t know how to coach anything other than the high-octane fly down the ice kind of system and when that doesn’t work he doesn’t know how to adapt

Take what you will from that information. Just thought I’d pass it along.
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Checks out with my observation of what he does here.
 
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ShagDaddy said:
Below is a comment that I just saw from one of the guys that covers the Preds.

Was talking with a buddy that covers the Panthers and asked why he thought they didn’t keep Andrew Brunette. His take: management wasn’t sold on his ability to make the right adjustments when the talent on the roster stopped carrying the team. Also noted he doesn’t know how to coach anything other than the high-octane fly down the ice kind of system and when that doesn’t work he doesn’t know how to adapt

Take what you will from that information. Just thought I’d pass it along.
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Pretty much what the Florida fans have said in the past with regards to him too. Based on what we've seen it definitely would be hard to argue.
 
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