When are we going to get Regular season Samsonov?

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Leafs left him hung out to dry on all those goals but you wish he’d stopped one of them. Need him to stop one of them.

Don’t know if the Leafs will switch to Woll but I wouldn’t blame them. Samsonov hasn’t been putrid but he hasn’t made that extra save like he did last series.

 

[Aashir]

He’s been like the core 4, just not good enough. 1 save away, one stinker a game, one back breaker a game

Idk if woll is the answer but he’s playing like he is the clear inferior goalie even when he hasn’t had many high danger chances

 

[Buds17]

You're ignoring the butterfly effect of not allowing the 2nd goal softie. Who knows what would've happened after that.

You want your goalie to not allow terrible goals like that, so I think a change should be considered at least

You make fair points. I just think that games like the clincher against Tampa will be something of a rarity for this team - more often than not, they'll have to win primarily because of their offence. Removing a terrible goal let in by Samsonov isn't going to necessarily be equivalent to the Leafs countering with a goal of their own. I can only be certain of that which did happen.

 

[JKG33]

When? Probably next regular season. If only someone could've predicted this

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

You make fair points. I just think that games like the clincher against Tampa will be something of a rarity for this team - more often than not, they'll have to win primarily because of their offence. Removing a terrible goal let in by Samsonov isn't going to necessarily be equivalent to the Leafs countering with a goal of their own. I can only be certain of that which did happen.

Yeah the Leafs offense has been trash since game 4 vs Tampa, with exactly 2 goals in each of those games.

But I think that makes it even more important for your goalie to not allow a momentum sapping softie. Leafs were in good shape heading into the 2nd and then that happens.

 

[Buds17]

Yeah the Leafs offense has been trash since game 4 vs Tampa, with exactly 2 goals in each of those games.

But I think that makes it even more important for your goalie to not allow a momentum sapping softie. Leafs were in good shape heading into the 2nd and then that happens.

I definitely agree that both the goalie and the offence/team in front of him need to be better. I just happen to believe that higher level is easier to achieve for, and expect from, the team's highest paid and biggest names.

 

[Its not your fault]

In the regular season he was great, but ever sense the playoffs started he's been awful.

3.29 GAA

894 save%

Some of you, most of you will make the excuse that either

A "It the defense" and no It's very VERY not, It's not the defense when he's allowed 3+ goals 5 times in 7 games and has an under 900 save% once you start pushing 890, and he's closer to 890 than he is to 900 it becomes a goalie issue.

Or B "he's hurt."

I have no doubt that's true Who cares? so is everybody else at this point so that's not an excuse, there is not ONE player that is 100% at this point,and I don't just mean the players left playing I mean EVERYBODY but even the players that didn't make it played 82 games.

Injury is not an excuse when everybody else is injured to.

He simply needs to be better that's all there is to it, they were good enough to win last night.

He wasn't.

You know the other team activity trys to win right?

 

[hyduK]

Samsonov has been fine.

Like, keep in mind Bob is getting paid $10m a year, on a 7 year contract. At that price he SHOULD be carrying a lot of the weight, and he is.

Samsonov is on a bargain bin contract in comparison meanwhile the guys getting paid the big bucks like Bob aren't carrying the same weight as him.

 

[sunstersun]

It's not on Sammy at all imo.

He literally hard carried to leafs many stretches in the Tampa series like game 3 and 6 where we were playing bad.

Also Sammy had to deal with a dead 2nd period yesterday, where once again the team went entirely dead. Our breakouts have been an issue all playoffs.

The Leafs defense outside of Rielly and Schenn have all underperformed as well.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Samsonov has been fine.

Like, keep in mind Bob is getting paid $10m a year, on a 7 year contract. At that price he SHOULD be carrying a lot of the weight, and he is.

Samsonov is on a bargain bin contract in comparison meanwhile the guys getting paid the big bucks like Bob aren't carrying the same weight as him.

He hasn't been fine that's a lie, with the exception of game 6 vs Tampa he's been carried by the offense.

It's not on Sammy at all imo.

He literally hard carried to leafs many stretches in the Tampa series like game 3 and 6 where we were playing bad.

Also Sammy had to deal with a dead 2nd period yesterday, where once again the team went entirely dead. Our breakouts have been an issue all playoffs.

The Leafs defense outside of Rielly and Schenn have all underperformed as well.

A dead 2nd HE caused when he let in a goal 19 seconds in.

But EVERYBODY is kissing his ass because they can't see the facts.

 

[koyvoo]

Sammy out, Woll in.

 

[trellaine201]

I think there was something wrong with him all playoffs , even before and whatever it is got worse when Schenn slid into him. RIP leafs

 

[Menzinger]

Officially done tonight as per the team

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I think there was something wrong with him all playoffs , even before and whatever it is got worse when Schenn slid into him. RIP leafs

There probably is but who cares?

EVERYBODY is playing hurt at this point so that's not an excuse

 

[ponder]

Small sample size, and playing only against playoff quality teams, vs. getting half your games against weaker teams. He hasn’t seemed noticeably better or worse than the regular season to me, just facing better competition. Mostly good, the odd soft goal, the odd amazing save.

FWIW Vasi is one of the best goalies in the league, and put up an .875 sv% and 3.56 GAA against us. Ullmark .896 sv% and 3.33 GAA. Hellebuyck .886 sv%, 3.44 GAA. Sammy’s .898 sv% and 3.13 GAA would be bad stats over a full season, but over 1.5 playoff rounds against high end offensive talents, it happens.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Small sample size, and playing only against playoff quality teams, vs. getting half your games against weaker teams. He hasn’t seemed noticeably better or worse than the regular season to me, just facing better competition. Mostly good, the odd soft goal, the odd amazing save.

FWIW Vasi is one of the best goalies in the league, and put up an .875 sv% and 3.56 GAA against us. Ullmark .896 sv% and 3.33 GAA. Hellebuyck .886 sv%, 3.44 GAA. Sammy’s .898 sv% and 3.13 GAA would be bad stats over a full season, but over 1.5 playoff rounds against high end offensive talents, it happens.

I don't care what the rest of those goalies did because they aren't Leafs.

This is about Samsonov, HE hasn't been good enoug.

That's What's real, THAT'S what matters, THAT'S what counts