What's your level of interest next season?

[Pookie]

I'm, not sure how on an intellectual basis, a belief in 'nothing' as you espouse has any more arguable value or as I believe the sub-text of your statement is claiming: "more intelligent".

My point was simply that you don't believe in those gods, so why is yaweh any different?

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

My point was simply that you don't believe in those gods, so why is yaweh any different?

Because it isn't a matter of human knowledge but one of faith and faith alone. A very personal belief. I don't command you to follow it, nor do I have parades and flags about it or vilify you in society if you refuse my lead.
Unfortunately, I can't say that courtesy is extended to me by a great number of rather self-assured people.

 

[justashadowof]

My point was simply that you don't believe in those gods, so why is yaweh any different?

I remember posting that exact sequence of characters in the Sam Harris subreddit. In 2012 or so.

 

[Pookie]

Because it isn't a matter of human knowledge but one of faith and faith alone. A very personal belief. I don't command you to follow it, nor do I have parades and flags about it or vilify you in society if you refuse my lead.
Unfortunately, I can't say that courtesy is extended to me by a great number of rather self-assured people.

Sure you do. You vilify people for choosing a lifestyle that is different than what is written in the book.

A book by the way that was written by people who had no knowledge of disease, death, weather patterns or anything that we have come to understand with science. It's the equivalent of taking advice from modern day Afghan Warlords.

Just so long as you are acting on faith, I presume you think it's ok to own slaves? Or that if you happen to rape a woman who is a virgin, you have to pay her family 50 sheckles and then you can take her as your bride?

You "faith" folks are famous for picking and choosing your verses.

And I have no issue in not extending you a courtesy for your irrational and hate based "beliefs." You are a bigot, plain and simple.

We've got one life. There is no magical afterlife. This is how you choose to spend it?

 

[Pookie]

I remember posting that exact sequence of characters in the Sam Harris subreddit. In 2012 or so.

I'm an atheist. Gave up on religion and santa claus a long time ago.

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

Sure you do. You vilify people for choosing a lifestyle that is different than what is written in the book.

A book by the way that was written by people who had no knowledge of disease, death, weather patterns or anything that we have come to understand with science. It's the equivalent of taking advice from modern day Afghan Warlords.

Just so long as you are acting on faith, I presume you think it's ok to own slaves? Or that if you happen to rape a woman who is a virgin, you have to pay her family 50 sheckles and then you can take her as your bride?

You "faith" folks are famous for picking and choosing your verses.

And I have no issue in not extending you a courtesy for your irrational and hate based "beliefs." You are a bigot, plain and simple.

We've got one life. There is no magical afterlife. This is how you choose to spend it?

Well, you've provided an uncompelling and lazy argument. Name calling, etc. Claiming absolute knowledge of matters of any afterlife.

We've devolved to a point in society that someone who believes in Jesus Christ is now a 'bigot'. I'm not surprised, because it is written that his would happen.

Good day.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Because it isn't a matter of human knowledge but one of faith and faith alone. A very personal belief. I don't command you to follow it, nor do I have parades and flags about it or vilify you in society if you refuse my lead.
Unfortunately, I can't say that courtesy is extended to me by a great number of rather self-assured people.

Why do you necessarily deserve courtesy? Your views should be subject to challenge or even ridicule as much as anyone's.

 

[Drytoast]

Incredibly low.

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

Why do you necessarily deserve courtesy? Your views should be subject to challenge or even ridicule as much as anyone's.

I get zero courtesy on here as you can plainly read! I couldn't care less what you believe. However, there should be a level of civility - not name calling and a lot of people seem especially angered by what I believe.
Liberal intolerance is still 'intolerance'.
Liberal racism is still 'racism'.

 

[keonsbitterness]

I get zero courtesy on here as you can plainly read! I couldn't care less what you believe. However, there should be a level of civility - not name calling and a lot of people seem especially angered by what I believe.
Liberal intolerance is still 'intolerance'.
Liberal racism is still 'racism'.

Look, you keep spouting right-wing diatribes. Did you really expect not to get challenged? Stop acting like a victim. Funny thing is if you go far enough left, a lot of them come across just like you.

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

Look, you keep spouting right-wing diatribes. Did you really expect not to get challenged? Stop acting like a victim. Funny thing is if you go far enough left, a lot of them come across just like you.

I'm not complaining about people who disagree with me. Go at it. I could care less what some 20 or 30 something thinks.
Name calling has no place here. Calling people bigots and NAZI's etc. because they don't hold the same beliefs as you is just as fascist as you believe I am.

 

[keonsbitterness]

I'm not complaining about people who disagree with me. Go at it. I could care less what some 20 or 30 something thinks.
Name calling has no place here. Calling people bigots and NAZI's etc. because they don't hold the same beliefs as you is just as fascist as you believe I am.

Then complain to the mods. It's a private forum, so they can set and enforce whatever rules they want.

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

Then complain to the mods. It's a private forum, so they can set and enforce whatever rules they want.

Why would I bother complaining to the mods? Name calling is just rude - it doesn't effect me in any real, substantive way and I come from a time before safe spaces.
If someone is convinced there is no God and hates me for my own belief, I just feel sorry for them to be honest. I don't feel people who definitively discount God as particularly intelligent, I guess. I'm sure it goes both ways.

 

[AllDay28]

Maybe Jesus can play on our 1st line. Might not produce in the clutch (see: crucifixion)

 

[rdogg]

I don't feel people who definitively discount God as particularly intelligent, I guess. I'm sure it goes both ways.

I feel that people who argue politics and religion in a Leafs forum are extremely unintelligent.

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

I feel that people who argue politics and religion in a Leafs forum are extremely unintelligent.

Funny how you only go after me about it, but sure.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Why would I bother complaining to the mods? Name calling is just rude - it doesn't effect me in any real, substantive way and I come from a time before safe spaces.
If someone is convinced there is no God and hates me for my own belief, I just feel sorry for them to be honest. I don't feel people who definitively discount God as particularly intelligent, I guess. I'm sure it goes both ways.

If it doesn't affect you, why are you complaining to me? Or at all?

By the way, I'm probably older than you.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Maybe Jesus can play on our 1st line. Might not produce in the clutch (see: crucifixion)

Would he sign a Spezza deal?

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

If it doesn't affect you, why are you complaining to me? Or at all?

By the way, I'm probably older than you.

By that extension - why is anyone on here complaining about/debating the Leafs then? At all?
I hopped in mid-argument. Sorry for participating!
Must have committed one of them there 'thought crimes" y'all don't like!

 

[Pookie]

Well, you've provided an uncompelling and lazy argument. Name calling, etc. Claiming absolute knowledge of matters of any afterlife.

We've devolved to a point in society that someone who believes in Jesus Christ is now a 'bigot'. I'm not surprised, because it is written that his would happen.

Good day.

Just to be clear, I said you were a bigot because you fit the definition.

There are quite a few believers in Jesus who are not bigots. Quite a few members of the United Church attend and support Pride.

As an aside, some even let women be heads of the Church.

 

[keonsbitterness]

By that extension - why is anyone on here complaining about/debating the Leafs then? At all?
I hopped in mid-argument. Sorry for participating!
Must have committed one of them there 'thought crimes" y'all don't like!

What?? You specifically referenced name-calling and your aversion to it (which I generally agree with). Are we now on to debating the pros and cons of everything to do with this forum?

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

What?? You specifically referenced name-calling and your aversion to it (which I generally agree with). Are we now on to debating the pros and cons of everything to do with this forum?

Ummmm....what?
Listen dude - you seem like a nice enough guy. You're, and all the others (are) free to think I'm an idiot/bigot/stupid/NAZI for believing in Jesus and I'm just going to move on, OK?

 

[justashadowof]

Liberal intolerance is still 'intolerance'.
Liberal racism is still 'racism'.

I don't think it's liberalism anyways. It's a pseudo religion of modernity. It may be an offshoot of liberalism but it shares more in common with evangelical Christianity than liberalism. It's very religion-like but overlays on everything it comes in contact with. If you read history about the spread of Christianity, this is one of the ways Christianity swamped pagans religions by taking higher authority than the other gods and practices of the pagans. You can see this exact thing happening across society in corporations, in most Christian denominations, in government schools, libraries, arts, television and films.

My thesis of how this is a religion is that it has sacred symbols, sacred historical figures, sacred places, sacred events, sacred acts, etc. A religion doesn't require a deity. They testify publicly their creed. The creed is constantly changing. About 6 years ago the terms "social justice" and "intersectionality" were part of the testimony of faith. Currently "equity" and "inclusion" are the words they use. The words are meant to be unclear to their exact meaning because it's not a static set of beliefs. We witnessed this testimony in this thread. You are enemy if you don't submit immediately to these words which I did not do when it was demanded that I do. If you're one of them you can still be labelled as a heretic if you alter the creed in anyway to fit your personal beliefs.

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

I don't think it's liberalism anyways. It's a pseudo religion of modernity. It may be an offshoot of liberalism but it shares more in common with evangelical Christianity than liberalism. It's very religion-like but overlays on everything it comes in contact with. If you read history about the spread of Christianity, this is one of the ways Christianity swamped pagans religions by taking higher authority than the other gods and practices of the pagans. You can see this exact thing happening across society in corporations, in most Christian denominations, in government schools, libraries, arts, television and films.

My thesis of how this is a religion is that it has sacred symbols, sacred historical figures, sacred places, sacred events, sacred acts, etc. A religion doesn't require a deity. They testify publicly their creed. The creed is constantly changing. About 6 years ago the terms "social justice" and "intersectionality" were part of the testimony of faith. Currently "equity" and "inclusion" are the words they use. The words are meant to be unclear to their exact meaning because it's not a static set of beliefs. We witnessed this testimony in this thread. You are enemy if you don't submit immediately to these words. If you're one of them you can be labelled as a heretic if you alter the creed in anyway to fit your personal beliefs.

It certainly isn't classical liberalism. Does that exist anymore? LOL
I agree with you - there are great similarities between the Spanish Inquisition and the modern behaviour and methods of Progressives.
Progressives by definition seek to erase the past, so something as "archaic" as a spiritual deity is intolerable as it undermines their absolute secular authority.
To each their own though. I respect their right to question me - just wish some weren't so zealous about it,

 

[justashadowof]

To each their own though. I respect their right to question me - just wish some weren't so zealous about it,

I too believe in to each their own. I don't think many of them do. We'll see how this develops. I started out genuinely sceptical about it being dangerous but increasingly I'm not so sure. Lines need to be drawn. I think the schools are completely compromised and children should homeschooled or schooled at private schools. It's also been suggested that it bears a more than passing similarity to the Chinese cultural revolution which turned the students into inquisitors against their own parents.