What's the worst word/saying on this site

[b in vancouver]

“Resigned” instead of “re-signed” is a personal pet peeve.

I always find that one funny myself, especially when it could be both. - like next summer I guarantee there will be someone who says - Chara 'resigned' ... you're like - well, which one, did he retire or is he playing another year? Or 'Chara resigned to play in Boston another year.' - what is he really not happy and wants out?

 

[Eat The Rich]

This is the reason why people hate Leaf fans

 

[Leafs87]

Using analytics to try to prove a ridiculous point.

Last year it was Connor Carrick is showing all the signs of a top pairing D in the making. Meanwhile he was an all around tire fire.

 

[Dominance]

“According to these [usually obscure] advanced stats...”

 

[swiftwin]

Corsi

It doesn't mean that most people here think it means.

 

[orby]

AINEC, AINEC

 

[Caspar]

P-E-D-I-G-R-E-E

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Just the general idea that stats are useless and that you can know everything just by watching games. If stats clash with your opinion, 9 times out of 10 it's because you're wrong rather than the stats are wrong

 

[bukwas]

Maybe people just don't understand the terminology here.

Elite = slightly above average
AINEC = coin toss
Corsi/advanced stats = I don't know but according to this
Generational = top line player
Negative value = not on the top of every GM's wish list
Underrated = He plays for my team so everyone better love him

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Let's be reality...

 

[varano]

AINEC Is the clear winner AINEC

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

"The gap is closer than people think" or

"insert name is generational"

 

[ColbyChaos]

"Does X team or player have the best (insert topic here) ever"

 

[Kalamazoo Wings]

If a trade we're done 'In a vacuum'...

 

[ichabod13]

tire/dumpster fire.
pedigree.
GM_ _.

 

[Confucius]

B Bu bu but I thought he sucked...

Closely followed by, Where are all the haters now

Phrases posted to entice arguments...

 

[teravaineSAROS]

Just the general idea that stats are useless and that you can know everything just by watching games. If stats clash with your opinion, 9 times out of 10 it's because you're wrong rather than the stats are wrong

That's a really broad topic though. In some cases I agree with you; but in a lot of cases a big problem is that people pull up stats that fit their narrative and emphasise it as if it determines more about the players ability than it does.

I think it's a big problem on HfBoards, especially since some stats get popular for awhile and everybody overuses it until the next stat get popular.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

Maybe people just don't understand the terminology here.

Elite = slightly above average
AINEC = coin toss
Corsi/advanced stats = I don't know but according to this
Generational = top line player
Negative value = not on the top of every GM's wish list
Underrated = He plays for my team so everyone better love him

also:
Underlying Stats = I can't be bothered looking up a stat that fits my narrative but you're wrong motherf#####

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

That's a really broad topic though. In some cases I agree with you; but in a lot of cases a big problem is that people pull up stats that fit their narrative and emphasise it as if it determines more about the players ability than it does.

I think it's a big problem on HfBoards, especially since some stats get popular for awhile and everybody overuses it until the next stat get popular.

Yeah, understanding hockey is a multifaceted thing. You can't only focus on a small area and expect to have a full understanding of how things work.
Watching games is important but you have to recognize you are not infallible. You will miss things and make mistakes and that's why it's important to compensate for that by using advanced stats. To dismiss advanced stats (or wrongly promote them) based on your agenda is a problem

 

[Marky9er]

I like when ppl are defiant.

Yep. I defiantly think so.

 

[Kale Hulls]

Hockey IQ is generationally overrated AINEC but it's way too early.

 

[Josepho]

When some analytics fan suggests that it's ok, the team may be losing but they are losing the "right way."

There is no Corsi-Cup folks. Lots of ways to play this game.

If you're outshooting the team and losing by only one goal, it sure as hell bodes better for future success than to be doubled in shots and blown out.

Obviously it doesn't matter in a vacuum, but the whole point of analytics is to predict for the future, not for the present.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

'Stat watcher' followed by 'watch the games' and both used by a poster who cheers for the players team and is likely anything but objective in watching that player.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

"He is dominate" (its DOMINANT)

"I may be bias..." (its BIASED)

learn English, people. (Foreigners get a pass)

 

[Pookie]

If you're outshooting the team and losing by only one goal, it sure as hell bodes better for future success than to be doubled in shots and blown out.

Obviously it doesn't matter in a vacuum, but the whole point of analytics is to predict for the future, not for the present.

McCurdy (2014) did a reliability test regarding various Corsi and Fenwick measures and their ability to predict wins.

Both measures peak for about 20 games and predict the results, at most, 18% of the time.