What's the max you'd give to Evans?

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Rapala

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SO TRUE....


I think we should trade him. I was 95% sure we were trading Lekhonen and still think it was the right thing to do.

Also the guys saying we should keep him and pay him 4MIL will be calling him untradeable in about 6months if we sign him...
Jake Evans is a role player and as a role player what you have to replace is the role.
This is what astounds me most about people who are paranoid to trade him.

Jake Evans' role can be assumed by a combination of players because that is just what it is... a role.
You do not over pay over term or trade clause a role player and nobody should be fooled Jake Evans will revert to being Jake Evans.

Are we that desperate that we have to rush to sign a player who might give us an extra win or two this season?
Or are we that stupid that we hold onto him without having a deal in place giving him more leverage.

If Jake Evans is a core piece and essential to building a Stanley Cup winning team we should open the bank.
For me he is not that core player no matter how good of a team mate he is.
 

WeThreeKings

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Jake Evans is a role player and as a role player what you have to replace is the role.
This is what astounds me most about people who are paranoid to trade him.

Jake Evans' role can be assumed by a combination of players because that is just what it is... a role.
You do not over pay over term or trade clause a role player and nobody should be fooled Jake Evans will revert to being Jake Evans.

Are we that desperate that we have to rush to sign a player who might give us an extra win or two this season?
Or are we that stupid that we hold onto him without having a deal in place giving him more leverage.

If Jake Evans is a core piece and essential to building a Stanley Cup winning team we should open the bank.
For me he is not that core player no matter how good of a team mate he is.

But you can't make the mistake that you can just put a rookie in the 3C spot and expect to just be fine. We saw the massive transformation on our blueline just by having Carrier instead of Barron.

Putting Beck and Kapanen in place to be our 3rd and 4th line centers is a massive mistake that will crater the team next year. Keeping Evans to bridge their development until they are ready to go is the smarter and more prudent play.

No spots should go to young players, unless they are the Demidov's and Hutson's of the world, until they are earned through competition, repetition and against NHL teams.

You will not get an Evans level 3C off the UFA market for much cheaper than you will pay Evans.. the only other option is a trade, but not sure if that's the best use of tradeable assets either.
 

Rapala

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But you can't make the mistake that you can just put a rookie in the 3C spot and expect to just be fine. We saw the massive transformation on our blueline just by having Carrier instead of Barron.

Putting Beck and Kapanen in place to be our 3rd and 4th line centers is a massive mistake that will crater the team next year. Keeping Evans to bridge their development until they are ready to go is the smarter and more prudent play.

No spots should go to young players, unless they are the Demidov's and Hutson's of the world, until they are earned through competition, repetition and against NHL teams.

You will not get an Evans level 3C off the UFA market for much cheaper than you will pay Evans.. the only other option is a trade, but not sure if that's the best use of tradeable assets either.
Disagree wholeheartedly.
There are many ways to replace Jake Evans and his attributes between now and puck drop 2025/26.
Overpaying is a bad idea. The recency bias on this board is quite funny.
I like Jake but there is a limit and I doubt he'll come in under it.
 

Naslund

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Nothing. You need the money to pay Demidov and Hutson. Beck or Kapanen takes the 4C spot next year. Newhook takes the 3C spot from Dvorak. Demidov on the second line replacing Newhook. You will need to pay for a top line RD at some point soon. Reinbacher and Mailloux are not going to be ready on time, if ever.
 

WeThreeKings

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Disagree wholeheartedly.
There are many ways to replace Jake Evans and his attributes between now and puck drop 2025/26.
Overpaying is a bad idea. The recency bias on this board is quite funny.
I like Jake but there is a limit and I doubt he'll come in under it.

I doubt anyone is overpaying Jake Evans.. He will get paid a reasonable salary with term to be a 3C and that is more important than trying to shave off 500k-1m from a cap charge.
 

Frankenheimer

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Feb 22, 2009
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Very torn about this but mainly because of his age. He'll be starting his new contract at 29. I would feel more at ease in committing longer term (5-6 years) if he was starting new contract at 27. He could def get a low first rounder.

On the other hand, I think he's become a very effective 3c and 5m/year does not seem exorbitant for a player in that role. We've seen the value of rolling 4 effective lines in the last month. First line can have bad nights and we can still win against big clubs. Thats a huge advantage.


I guess our record will determine which route will be taken come february.
 
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Archijerej

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But you can't make the mistake that you can just put a rookie in the 3C spot and expect to just be fine. We saw the massive transformation on our blueline just by having Carrier instead of Barron.

Putting Beck and Kapanen in place to be our 3rd and 4th line centers is a massive mistake that will crater the team next year. Keeping Evans to bridge their development until they are ready to go is the smarter and more prudent play.

No spots should go to young players, unless they are the Demidov's and Hutson's of the world, until they are earned through competition, repetition and against NHL teams.

You will not get an Evans level 3C off the UFA market for much cheaper than you will pay Evans.. the only other option is a trade, but not sure if that's the best use of tradeable assets either.
Agreed on all points, although this problem has another solution: an Trocheck-type 2C who can defend and kill penalties and push Dach down the lineup.
 
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CHfan1

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Nothing. You need the money to pay Demidov and Hutson. Beck or Kapanen takes the 4C spot next year. Newhook takes the 3C spot from Dvorak. Demidov on the second line replacing Newhook. You will need to pay for a top line RD at some point soon. Reinbacher and Mailloux are not going to be ready on time, if ever.

I disagree that Newhook is the answer as the #3 centre if Evans goes to a different team. I think the 3rd centre should be:

-a veteran at the position,
-good defensively,
-can play the PK,
-chip in offensively, and;
-is decent at face-offs.

Newhook doesn’t check a lot of these points. If they move on from Evans I think they’ll have to find another centre from outside the organization which will most likely be found through a trade.
 
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bsl

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Evans is having a great year. What would be max you'd give

Green flags
- First time team is healthy so he's not playing in the wrong chair. Thus linemates have remained steady.
- Guy is a late bloomer so this sudden surge could be sustainable
- Good leader and great role player

Red flags
- Shooting at 24%, less than 1 shot per game. High shooting 5 on 5 shooting %
- High IPP
- career year on contract year, can be recipe for disaster. Will look to cash in
- has has trouble with concussions
Trade. No brainer
 
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Hins77

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Gaustad for a 1st still boggles my mind, just like Chiarot for a 1st lol
Gaustad, was a physical 3rd centerman, with an effective ratio of faceoff. He was able to dropping the glove. And contribute offensively. He is the Adam Lowry of today. Winnipeg won't trade him unless maybe a first pick. There are not a bunch of 6ft 5 centerman like that. Law of supply and demand.
 
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