What's the max you'd give to Evans?

[HabsAddict]

To a degree Evans will benefit from the Kovicavek Syndrom

Management thought either Mailman or Barron would take the NHL step...and didn't. So they traded Kovicavek for used jock straps and had to trade again to cover RHD.

Something similar is likely to happen with Kapenen and Beck. Are they ready? If Beck comes in and performs, Evans is gone. If not, then expect and extra half or a million. Maybe 3 million tops.

But...

If Evans thinks hes worth more then 3 million...goodbye. Particularly over 4 years. If some half wit GM thinks he's worth 4x4...good luck.

You can't throw money at bottom 6 particularly when you have an enormous stable of youngsters on the way. Cost control the top 6-8 and fill the bottom with cheap vets snd youngsters.

 

[Rafafouille]

You have zero chance of signing him at 3 x 3....that is not remotely his market value.

Henrique is old, Domi is a defensive disaster and Paul plays in a state with zero income tax. These are brutal comparisons.

I submit that if you want Evans that it will take at least 4 x 4 and I believe it will end up surpassing that, especially if we trade him and he shows well in the playoffs.

I will pay the 4 x 4 all day as Suzuki, Slaf, Caufield and Guhle are all on potentially great deals if they continue to evolve and the cap goes up as much as it is believed to be going up. I would even consider 5 x 4 as well as Evans appears to be coming into his own and is a perfect student of MSL's teachings. He has a great head on his shoulders and will be a fantastic leader and example for the young crop that is coming up over the next two season.

This team desperately needs to fill out the bottom six with bigger, meaner bodies but will need cerebral leaders like Evans to form cohesive lines.

You want to give him the Marcus Foligno contract go ahead, see where that leads us. Letting these 25-30pts meh 3rd liner guys walk in free agency is how you build teams, not signing them to bloated contracts for career years. Same with Lehkonen who's now overachieving with Mac. If he was still here he'd be treated just like Armia is. A terrible contract that we can't wait to get rid of.

 

[phillytennis]

I would offer him...three years...$3.33 million or four years $3 million.

 

[NewDef]

Savard.
Matheson.
Anderson.

Jee, Savard is a good contract for a solid veteran albeit slowing and which contract ends this year with the opportunity to get good return at TDL.

Matheson is an easily tradable contract well valued to the player contribution. Nothing wrong here. Pretty sure we get really good return here if we trade.

Anderson was not signed by HuGo... I feel he got 2 bad concussions and slowed down a lot from the Tatar erra but now feels healthy and this season is a heck of a 3rd line banger Buuuut..... he's overpayed. At 3.5M for 2 more years, nobody would complains.

Dvorak, again a Bergevin signing, as well as Gally are the contracts that needs gone, else a lot of cards are falling into place for good return at TDL for Armia, Dvorak, Savard while freeing spots for yound studs.

I wanna see what Tuch and Beck can do!

 

[Schooner Guy]

Trading Evans will create a tough hole to fill. Dvorak is also gone this year. We can't enter next season with Suzuki, Dach, and rookies up the middle.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Why

why only looking this season to build his next contract?. I mean. Since 2019, he is around 30 points/ year. He is a bottom line centerman. He is going to be 29 years old next year. 3.5 x 3. I wouldnt give him more than 4 millions per year. Look what happen with Dvorak. We can't handle his contract and we are stuck with him. Jake evans isnt immune to a regression. If he wants more than 4, bye bye. I would prefer to sign a UfA cheeper

He is on pace to obliterate his past totals and if you are watching the games it is very evident that he has discovered something in himself. He is a high end 3rd line center and 4M plus is a reasonable salary for such a player.

I don't believe in paying players for their past when they are clearly in decline (Gallagher) nor do I believe in penalizing players for their past when they clearly have taken a big step forward. Evans has scored at every level and while he will not threaten to lead the team in scoring, he has gained the confidence to consistently access the skills that we have always seen glimpses of.

My only issue with Evans is his concussion history.

 

[417]

Trading Evans will create a tough hole to fill. Dvorak is also gone this year. We can't enter next season with Suzuki, Dach, and rookies up the middle.

Center is just not a deep position in the organization.

Evans has a price but I'd be trying to find a way to sign him. Anything in the 3-3.5M range is very doable, anything more than they i’d want the term shorter, but he's a valuable player who can still fit in where they're going.

 

[Vachon23]

He is on pace to obliterate his past totals and if you are watching the games it is very evident that he has discovered something in himself. He is a high end 3rd line center and 4M plus is a reasonable salary for such a player.

I don't believe in paying players for their past when they are clearly in decline (Gallagher) nor do I believe in penalizing players for their past when they clearly have taken a big step forward. Evans has scored at every level and while he will not threaten to lead the team in scoring, he has gained the confidence to consistently access the skills that we have always seen glimpses of.

My only issue with Evans is his concussion history.

Especially when you have 0 depth on the your center depth chart, the most important position in hockey

 

[yianik]

Dvo and Armia are going, our supposed 3C and 2 of our PK gone. We have 3 guys in the pipeline with Beck being the closest in my view but he needs to be worked in and while that will start this year its too much to look at him to be a 3C by next year.

Overpaying the bottom guys often happens because GMs, like fans, love certain guys. But it kills you Cap wise. Having said that, if you are going to pay up for a bottom 6 guy, let it be for a C. Evans is playing as a solid 3C and for sure he gets $3.25M-$3.5M, with $4M quite possible/ likely and maybe some irresponsible GM even offers $4.5M. Dvorak is paid that as a 3C. Term wise 4 years is bang on, maybe somebody is willing to go to 5. I would offer $14M over 4 years with $3.5M AAV, maybe I would go as high as $4M but it would make me sad. Let's face it, we are in a bad place at C. I guess we could try $5.5M for a year to buy us time as a last resort.

If we trade Evans it's a late 1st for sure. In and of itself that actually isn't worth much at this point , it's a 1 in 5 chance at getting a top 6 player. However, if that gives us 3 1sts in 2025 then we could bundle up a couple and do a Hage, or even all 3 and go for the highest quality asset we can get.Geez, if we get a 1st for Savard we could have 4 1sts this year. Lots of ammo for a 2C or top RHD, along with a couple players we could offer up.

 

[crazyd74]

Trading Evans will create a tough hole to fill. Dvorak is also gone this year. We can't enter next season with Suzuki, Dach, and rookies up the middle.

Exactly!! Depth people, depth!! Your team is dead in the water if you don't have depth at C.

Dvorak is expendable with the promise that Beck could fill the void next season as our 4C.

Newhook - in a pinch - can slot in when minor injuries occur.

Dack could turn out to be a next Dvorak if his development continues to stall.

Hage, may be at least 2 years away from his introduction to the roster.

Drafting a stud C in this years draft....can't bet the house on that one.

I don't see how we can let go of Evans.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Exactly!! Depth people, depth!! Your team is dead in the water if you don't have depth at C.

Dvorak is expendable with the promise that Beck could fill the void next season as our 4C.

Newhook - in a pinch - can slot in when minor injuries occur.

Dack could turn out to be a next Dvorak if his development continues to stall.

Hage, may be at least 2 years away from his introduction to the roster.

Drafting a stud C in this years draft....can't bet the house on that one.

I don't see how we can let go of Evans.

Only if the term or money doesn't make sense.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

He's getting 4.4-5

We will regret after 2 years. He's at his peak. There will be better and cheaper options in 2 years. He will be another vet hard to trade like so many others, no need to mention names, it's redundant. And our gm will not trade him when he will have top value cuz he will be useful short term, like always. So he will stay here his whole contract, the last 2 years will hurt the team, not 100% sure of that but after witness history, pretty strong chances this is what will happen. Why Montreal have to overpay always and always and why the best ufas doesn't want to come here? This city on decline reflects on his hockey team.

If I was the gm, I would trade Evans and Newhook for one good player, a good old 2 for one.

Exactly!! Depth people, depth!! Your team is dead in the water if you don't have depth at C.

Dvorak is expendable with the promise that Beck could fill the void next season as our 4C.

Newhook - in a pinch - can slot in when minor injuries occur.

Dack could turn out to be a next Dvorak if his development continues to stall.

Hage, may be at least 2 years away from his introduction to the roster.

Drafting a stud C in this years draft....can't bet the house on that one.

I don't see how we can let go of Evans.

Acquire a C by trade. This is why gms are paid for. 31 other teams and it's impossible?

 

[sampollock]

though I really wish he would stay

He will want 5 mill and try UFA
thus trade him

 

[crazyd74]

Only if the term or money doesn't make sense.

Money and clauses more so than term. If Hage and Beck pan out and we have also drafted a potential 2C, you can always trade Evans down the road. Money then becomes a factor, but cap will have risen and you have many options that can be put into effect such as retaining (if trade) or again bluntly buying out the contract.

Clauses, such has NMC or full NTC, would be quite damaging. Limited NTC less so, but I could be swayed to include as a sign of respect and recognition.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

We will regret after 2 years. He's at his peak. There will be better and cheaper options in 2 years. He will be another vet hard to trade like so many others, no need to mention names, it's redundant. And our gm will not trade him when he will have top value cuz he will be useful short term, like always. So he will stay here his whole contract, the last 2 years will hurt the team, not 100% sure of that but after witness history, pretty strong chances this is what will happen. Why Montreal have to overpay always and always and why the best ufas doesn't want to come here? This city on decline reflects on his hockey team.

If I was the gm, I would trade Evans and Newhook for one good player, a good old 2 for one.


Acquire a C by trade. This is why gms are paid for. 31 other teams and it's impossible?

Yeah obviously , I don't mind him leaving us , If I'm jake it starts at 4.5 , I don't see why he would give us a discount

 

[crazyd74]

Acquire a C by trade. This is why gms are paid for. 31 other teams and it's impossible?

Aside from our draft picks, we don't have much to sacrifice roster wise (with value).

Again, we know that KH is creative, per the Dach and Newhook deals. But as of now, these trades are getting bleaker as time goes by. Dach and Newhook are at risk of becoming depth players as successors to Anderson and Gallagher.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

though I really wish he would stay

He will want 5 mill and try UFA
thus trade him

We can get a 1rst for him. He's in position to ask 5 mil. He'll be 32 at the end of a 4 years deal.
Trade him.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Aside from our draft picks, we don't have much to sacrifice roster wise (with value).

Again, we know that KH is creative, per the Dach and Newhook deals. But as of now, these trades are getting bleaker as time goes by. Dach and Newhook are at risk of becoming depth players as successors to Anderson and Gallagher.

We weren't that lucky with Dach and Newhook, well, like video games or twist cap bottles : try again. Maybe next trade will the good one. You risk nothing, you get nothing. Include Dach or Newhook + Evans and who can you get?

 

[crazyd74]

We weren't that lucky with Dach and Newhook, well, like video games or twist cap bottles : try again. Maybe next trade will the good one. You risk nothing, you get nothing. Include Dach or Newhook + Evans and who can you get?

Dach >> Newhook

If we package Dach, Evans, Primeau and picks, could we land a 2C? We would still be severely depleting oud depth down the middle. It could even bring us to resign Dvorak.

 

[sampollock]

We can get a 1rst for him. He's in position to ask 5 mil. He'll be 32 at the end of a 4 years deal.
Trade him.

yup
cant see KH paying him 5 mill when Beck may be ready

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Dach >> Newhook

If we package Dach, Evans, Primeau and picks, could we land a 2C? We would still be severely depleting oud depth down the middle. It could even bring us to resign Dvorak.

If you're the gm of the most rewarded nhl franchise and top 5 biggest market, you can't get any better than Dvorak at 3C and force you to resign him? Tell me you're jocking. Haha ya got almost got me !!

 

[Vachon23]

Exactly!! Depth people, depth!! Your team is dead in the water if you don't have depth at C.

Dvorak is expendable with the promise that Beck could fill the void next season as our 4C.

Newhook - in a pinch - can slot in when minor injuries occur.

Dack could turn out to be a next Dvorak if his development continues to stall.

Hage, may be at least 2 years away from his introduction to the roster.

Drafting a stud C in this years draft....can't bet the house on that one.

I don't see how we can let go of Evans.

And where not sure Hage is gonna be a center if he makes the league

 

[Habs]

I hope Sakic isn't calling offering garbage for a really decent C we should probably just keep for a bit.

 

[sampollock]

I hope Sakic isn't calling offering garbage for a really decent C we should probably just keep for a bit.

KH wont let him go for zip. Need a better prospect back than Barron

 

[Rapala]

I was looking at Lars Eller's deal with Washington at relatively the same age in 2018 he got 3.5m x 5

Is Evans worth Lars Eller dollars and term in today's market as a 3C or is he ultimately a 4C?