Whats the argument that Sweden still is a hockey-power?

[Mattb124]

That’s not always the case, check the 2019 tournament rosters, they were as close as possible to the Olympic squads

Do you remember how many points McDavid, Marchand, MacKinnon, Crosby, Gaudreau, Stamkos, Marner, Point, Wheeler, Tavares, and Sciefele had for Canada in that tournament? They must have absolutely tore it up.

 

[Dirty Dog]

The Finnish hate on this forum for Swedish players is always odd

 

[ViD]

Do you remember how many points McDavid, Marchand, MacKinnon, Crosby, Gaudreau, Stamkos, Marner, Point, Wheeler, Tavares, and Sciefele had for Canada in that tournament? They must have absolutely tore it up.

Why are you nitpicking ? Look at Russia, US, Sweden, Czech rosters, they were all loaded. There’s nothing even close in this tournament.

 

[MNRube]

Landeskog-Pettersson-Nylander
Bratt-Zibanajed-Kempe
Forsberg-Eriksson Ek-Lindholm
Karlsson-Backlund-Raymond

Hedman-Karlsson
Dahlin-Brodin
Lindholm-Ekholm

Ullmark
Gustavsson

Can hang with any nation. Two of best goalies in the world this year and the Norris winner. Each line has some speed, defense and scoring. OP is a couple years early IMO.

 

[karhukissa]

The Finnish hate on this forum for Swedish players is always odd

Umm what? Eye of Ra is not a Finn. Only Swedish player getting heat from Finns is Dahlin, or maybe you can name some other players?

This Eye of Ra performance is getting old and you morons swallow the bait each time and build some rosters here and argue with him while he just wants that people are praising Sweden.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Umm what? Eye of Ra is not a Finn. Only Swedish player getting heat from Finns is Dahlin, or maybe you can name some other players?

This Eye of Ra performance is getting old and you morons swallow the bait each time and build some rosters here and argue with him while he just wants that people are praising Sweden.

We’re on page two and we already have a Finnish poster who is obsessed with hating on Dahlin.

There’s only a handful of them on the forums, but they represent the entirety
of nation-based trolling

His threads are always a beacon for the same three or so trolls

 

[HighLifeManIsHigh]

Do you remember how many points McDavid, Marchand, MacKinnon, Crosby, Gaudreau, Stamkos, Marner, Point, Wheeler, Tavares, and Sciefele had for Canada in that tournament? They must have absolutely tore it up.

Well Gaudreau and Wheeler weren’t eligible for Canada since they’re both American. I agree with your point though

 

[vipera1960]

Hedman, Lindholm, Ekholm, Larsson.... heck, Gustav Forsling is playing top 2 minutes on a team that swept its way into the Stanley Cup Finals. Surely you are kidding and being sarcastic?

You do realize that was totally a bait post, right?

 

[carl jung]

Your expression "losing to the likes of Latvia* " shows that your mindset is still out of order and you do not usually actually mean what you say... in fact you secretly still believe that SWE is better than LAT

The hockey gods did punish you today and will keep on punishing you in the future


* "losing to the likes of Latvia" - really exposes that you actually think that swedes are superior and Latvia is crap....

or rather expresses how truly poor of a hockey power sweden is

 

[vipera1960]

It’s not that Euro hockey is dead, it’s that the competition is stupid. No one cares who wins when the top teams are putting out substitutes (and yes, that includes Sweden).

I don’t understand why the IIHF can’t just make a best-on-best tournament in the off-season, when everyone is available (and thus more likely to play). There is a reason the World Cup (soccer/football) is played in June/July not May.

 

[carl jung]

Lidstrom, Forsberg, Sundin, Alfredsson, Sedin sisters, Zetteburg, Backstrom

Factor in all the great role players like some of the Hawks players in Hjalmarsson and Kruger.

Upcoming star players like Edvinsson, Wallinder, Kasper, and Raymond from the wings. There are plenty more star players I haven't even named yet.

Name ‘em then

 

[ZEBROA]

Sweden should have won. Even without Sandin and Andrae. But i am almost sertent Andrae would have made a goal or two. They realy lack snipers overall in Sweden. And thats the biggest reason they got a hard time winning when it counts. Hakan loob the only Swedish 50goal scorer ever. That must be worst among the top nations.

said it in the begiinig of the WC we desperatly needed one of the top NHL Swedes to get a medal. The core was good enough Defensivly, but offensivly. A karlsson or Nylander or EP or Zibanijad or Kempe. Big difference on a team like this.

Congrats to Latvia i hope they upset the whole tournament.

 

[IceHockeyDude]

This is why I don't follow this forum too much anymore.

 

[Eye of Ra]

The NHL doesnt play best on best tournaments

Sweden has incredible talent at the NHL level and upcoming talent

If NHL had a proper worldcup or olympic event they are a clear 3rd best team

CAN
USA
SWE

Russia wildcard who can be 4th or 1st.

Finland is 5th and a contender but likely loser to any of those teams

Everyone else after is an underdog who is ranging from 2 goal defeat to 5 goal defeat

Sweden defense is still elite

Hedman
Dahlin
Karlsson
H Lindholm
Ekholm
A. Larsson

That is a really good top 6

Forwards

Nylander, Pettersson, Bratt, Forsberg, Elias Lindholm, Zibby is one dirty group for a top 6

Kempe, JEek, Arviddsson, Rakell, Raymond, Burakovsky as the bottom 6

Thats a team that can challange and beat CAN/USA/RUS if they are at the too of their game and get quality goaltending

That defence is horrible at defending, its only elite when it comes to offensive skills. Sweden has worse Dcore than even Slovakia, Czechia, Germany etc. Just like miro4norris said, atleast they have Seider, Josi, Nemec and others who can defend good.

Forwards are fine, but not elite like Canada, USA, Finland and Russia. We dont have superstars anymore like Sedins, Zetterberg, Alfredsson, Sundin, Forsberg, Näslund....thats 7 elite players upfront that we once had at the same time...crazy times.

Hedman, Lindholm, Ekholm, Larsson.... heck, Gustav Forsling is playing top 2 minutes on a team that swept its way into the Stanley Cup Finals. Surely you are kidding and being sarcastic?

All of them good offensivly, but all of them sucks at defending.

This is why I don't follow this forum too much anymore.

What is bothering you?

 

[Eye of Ra]

Landeskog-Pettersson-Nylander
Bratt-Zibanajed-Kempe
Forsberg-Eriksson Ek-Lindholm
Karlsson-Backlund-Raymond

Hedman-Karlsson
Dahlin-Brodin
Lindholm-Ekholm

Ullmark
Gustavsson

Can hang with any nation. Two of best goalies in the world this year and the Norris winner. Each line has some speed, defense and scoring. OP is a couple years early IMO.

Landeskog is not coming back. So insert Rakell and move up Forsberg.

Who is gonna defend among the ds? We could really need Öhlund, Mattias Nordström, Hjalmarsson etc. We dont have that type of players anymore.

Goalies are fine this season, but both of them only been really good 1 season.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Umm what? Eye of Ra is not a Finn. Only Swedish player getting heat from Finns is Dahlin, or maybe you can name some other players?

This Eye of Ra performance is getting old and you morons swallow the bait each time and build some rosters here and argue with him while he just wants that people are praising Sweden.

Dahlin getting heat from finns for being poor defensivly has nothing to do with "Sweden hating". Its a fact that he is bad at defending. Everyone says this about him, no matter what nations they are from.

Im not doing any baiting, im serious. I dont want people to praise Sweden. I want people to wake up and realise Sweden have regresed. People are living in the past. Sweden was once a good hockey country, but we are not anymore. Its true i brought this topic up several times, but its becuse all my threads gets destroyed by paranoid people. It would be nice to have a serious debate about this topic.

Sweden should have won. Even without Sandin and Andrae. But i am almost sertent Andrae would have made a goal or two. They realy lack snipers overall in Sweden. And thats the biggest reason they got a hard time winning when it counts. Hakan loob the only Swedish 50goal scorer ever. That must be worst among the top nations.

said it in the begiinig of the WC we desperatly needed one of the top NHL Swedes to get a medal. The core was good enough Defensivly, but offensivly. A karlsson or Nylander or EP or Zibanijad or Kempe. Big difference on a team like this.

Congrats to Latvia i hope they upset the whole tournament.

Andrae was not in this WC. I guess you are thinking about Andre Petersson?

Having our best on best squad in WC would not be enough to get pat qf, thats how much we have regressed. Look at wc 2019 as an exemple.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Lidstrom, Forsberg, Sundin, Alfredsson, Sedin sisters, Zetteburg, Backstrom

Factor in all the great role players like some of the Hawks players in Hjalmarsson and Kruger.

Upcoming star players like Edvinsson, Wallinder, Kasper, and Raymond from the wings. There are plenty more star players I haven't even named yet.

Kasper is from Austria.

 

[Boonk]

Eye of Ra diary entry #69 par. #420

“The Iran womens hockey team has surpassed Sweden. I don’t know how much more of this I can take”

Mad World starts playing in the background

 

[Eye of Ra]

Eye of Ra diary entry #69 par. #420

“The Iran womens hockey team has surpassed Sweden. I don’t know how much more of this I can take”

Mad World starts playing in the background

Why are you Exaggerate what im saying?

 

[MNRube]

Who is gonna defend among the ds? We could really need Öhlund, Mattias Nordström, Hjalmarsson etc. We dont have that type of players anymore.

Brodin is one of the premier shutdown D on the planet. Can play both sides.

Lindholm, Ekholm, Hedman can all defend as well and if you are that worried then bring along an Adam Larsson or a Marcus Pettersson instead.

 

[RickyLafleur]

Your expression "losing to the likes of Latvia* " shows that your mindset is still out of order and you do not usually actually mean what you say... in fact you secretly still believe that SWE is better than LAT

The hockey gods did punish you today and will keep on punishing you in the future


* "losing to the likes of Latvia" - really exposes that you actually think that swedes are superior and Latvia is crap....

Well, objectively Sweden does produce better hockey players than Latvia. One game here doesn't really change that.

 

[GAGLine]

Its just that so many people are deluded and think Sweden is still good. It amazes me.

And it's your job to educate them?

How you haven't been infracted yet for this stuff is what amazes me.

 

[Chainshot]

Looking at the players who declined, maybe it's that the NHL and the Stanley Cup are now more important to most of the high performing Swedes than the WC's are for them.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Well, objectively Sweden does produce better hockey players than Latvia. One game here doesn't really change that.

The Jam is a troll. Just ignore him. He thinks we are worse than Norway, Denmark, latvia etc. He has zero arguments what makes us worse than nations like that. One game dosent change anything. People are giving me shit, but its The Jam who is saying the things im getting accused of. Im only saying Sweden is not top 4 anymore.

 

[matsqq]

Esa Lindell, Finlands no 2 wouldnt even have a place on the bench in Sweden. Seen him in Dallas and he has looked really weak at times. Made 2 mistakes that cost goals in the beginning of 1 game this playoff. Seems slow but often positionally OK. Miro is the only one I would want in Sweden , the rest is far behind what Sweden could muster if you ask me.

Forsling is a new star that plays defense almost perfectly. Just look at what he has done in playoffs this year. Look at +/- and how much time he plays and against stacked teams like Boston, Toronto and Carolina he got those numbers.

So this is just as stupid as most of your other posts, Ra