What's going on with Robin Lehner?

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He's probably done forever.

It would be one thing if he were playing in another league somewhere and showed up on a PTO in a year or two (like Kulemin lol), but that's not the case here.

I don't think there's much of a question of him being done or not, like there is with Landeskog.
 

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I once saw him at a saltwater fish store we had in Ottawa when he was still playing here.

I was friendly with the owner and was talking to him after. He was saying that Lehner was spending obscene amounts of $ on corals and fish especially for someone who was just getting started in the hobby (at the time).

I now wonder if I witnessed the early days of his exotic animal addiction…
 

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Not sure if you're offended by my post, but snake farmin' is work, my friend.

When the sun rises, I'm up at the call of the rooster to feed the rooster to all my snakes. Ain't much, but it's an honest livin'. I like my days long, and my snakes longer. Nothin' better than a nice whiskey on my porch after a day of snakin'.

I hope you can find the peace in your heart to forgive me if my previous message brought you any unrest.
Some people have never herded snakes, that’s not at all easy
 
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Him and the Golden Knights are circumventing the cap by having him on LTIR and waiting out his contract. I doubt he's even rehabbing anything and he won't play for the Vegas Golden Knights again.

Half the players in the league above 30 could probably qualify for LTIRetirement due to some sort of long term issue that would be evident enough for them to be deemed eligible by a physician, but can be willingly played through with discomfort.

It's pretty obvious that so long as players and teams have the same priority, LTIR can be worked around. Vegas aren't the only team who does it. Look at Clarke MacArthur coming back in Ottawa when I assume he determined one last shot at the cup was worth whatever risk he was taking, and then after still being able to play at a reasonable level, went back into LTIRetirement after the Sens run. Look at Hossa choosing to not play through his dermatology issue when he no longer has incentive to do so (salary dropping, Chicago's window getting smaller, etc).

I don't know about Lehner's situation, but I'm just pointing out that if both a team and player would rather the players not play, most players above 30 probably have an issue that would qualify them for LTIRetirement.
 
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Seriously?

Hes rehabbing a hip injury. Will be good to go for Game 1 of the playoffs, just like Stone.
 

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He owes a ton of money to a lot of people and ran a snake farm where the original owner got murdered, he's not in a good place.
 
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Him and the Golden Knights are circumventing the cap by having him on LTIR and waiting out his contract. I doubt he's even rehabbing anything and he won't play for the Vegas Golden Knights again.
So you’re saying he’s not actually injured? I guess that means you expect him to play elsewhere once his contract is up?
 

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So you’re saying he’s not actually injured? I guess that means you expect him to play elsewhere once his contract is up?
Yeah, he's not injured, or at least he's not been rehabbing the injury in the manner that he will return to the ice. And no, he won't play anywhere else. He will stay in USA for the rest of his life.
 

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Even when he was an NHL calibre goalie he didn't seem like the most solid option to lean on, consistency or overall performance wise. Didn't Vegas miss the playoffs the only season when he was a starter there?
 

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Him and the Golden Knights are circumventing the cap by having him on LTIR and waiting out his contract. I doubt he's even rehabbing anything and he won't play for the Vegas Golden Knights again.
Yeah, he's not injured, or at least he's not been rehabbing the injury in the manner that he will return to the ice. And no, he won't play anywhere else. He will stay in USA for the rest of his life.
So in what way is Vegas circumventing the cap?

If he planned to come back only for the playoffs, then yeah I could see how you have an argument. But there are a ton of players all over the league who finish their careers on LTIR under the same circumstances.
 
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So in what way is Vegas circumventing the cap?

If he planned to come back only for the playoffs, then yeah I could see how you have an argument. But there are a ton of players all over the league who finish their careers on LTIR under the same circumstances.
It's simple. Vegas don't want his AVV to count towards the cap and he probably doesn't want to play, even though he can. It wouldn't surprise me if Vegas are helping him with his economic problems on the side to keep him happy and his mouth shut.
 

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It's simple. Vegas don't want his AVV to count towards the cap and he probably doesn't want to play, even though he can. It wouldn't surprise me if Vegas are helping him with his economic problems on the side to keep him happy and his mouth shut.

I think the simpler answer is probably that he has mental health issues and isn't expected to behave rationally because of it.

It's possible that this is some 5D chess move, where if his creditors were going to be entitled to that money anyways, by taking it away he could expedite a settlement and open things up to start earning again elsewhere. As in, 1M in his pocket is better than 5M to his creditors, but I don't know, I'm not an accountant.

I think he most likely case is that he is possibly irresponsible and also dealing with the alleged mental health issues, and that's why something that seems obvious and rational to do wasn't done.

If he has an agent, this guy would probably have been a case like in a movie the agent gets him there by any means. Tells him they are going to a reptile show or something.
 
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I think the simpler answer is probably that he has mental health issues and isn't expected to behave rationally because of it.

It's possible that this is some 5D chess move, where if his creditors were going to be entitled to that money anyways, by taking it away he could expedite a settlement and open things up to start earning again elsewhere. As in, 1M in his pocket is better than 5M to his creditors, but I don't know, I'm not an accountant.

I think he most likely case is that he is possibly irresponsible and also dealing with the alleged mental health issues, and that's why something that seems obvious and rational to do wasn't done.

If he has an agent, this guy would probably have been a case like in a movie the agent gets him there by any means. Tells him they are going to a reptile show or something.
He owes 27.3m or something like that, not sure how much of it he paid back but that's a pretty decent amount and if he already defaulted to the point of being sued for it, chances are he was spiralling for a long time and has nothing left, even with the LTIR money going to the creditors. What a boneheaded situation he put himself into.


The sticky part is this - The part of this "one case" that's closed is that his upcoming salary from the VGK is to be used to pay back 3m that they agreed upon. So now he's missed his check in for medical to be put on LTIR and won't get any of that money if the VGK decide to terminate his contract entirely because he failed to report.

So he closed one case only to shoot himself in the foot with the salary he needed to repay it with the agreement and now won't have that anymore for them to garnish 25% which means it'll likely go back to court and he's in trouble again with those same creditors.
 

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