What time is Canada Roster being named?

[bigguns]

sorry i had a brain fart this morning. My biggest point was that I can't see colliton staying where he is, so maybe he'll take dixon's spot on the 4th line and dixon will replace perry as the 13th forward

 

[bennysflyers16]

sorry i had a brain fart this morning. My biggest point was that I can't see colliton staying where he is, so maybe he'll take dixon's spot on the 4th line and dixon will replace perry as the 13th forward

True, if you pick Perry, you almost have to have him playing in a top offensive role, otherwise why pick him to sit on the bench ?

 

[Hunter74]

Carter will not be moved down, Did you watch last year, he was arguably Canada's best player.

All I remember of Carter from last year in the final game against the Americans was him failing to get the puck out of the zone b/c he wanted to create offense even though they had the lead. His defensive play in that final game really left a bad taste in my mouth in regards to him......though it was along time ago and I only watched it once so I could be wrong.

Cant deny his offensive abilities though.

 

[jcpenny]

All I remember of Carter from last year in the final game against the Americans was him failing to get the puck out of the zone b/c he wanted to create offense even though they had the lead. His defensive play in that final game really left a bad taste in my mouth in regards to him......though it was along time ago and I only watched it once so I could be wrong.

Cant deny his offensive abilities though.

He's older and more mature now and he is our top center.

 

[bennysflyers16]

All I remember of Carter from last year in the final game against the Americans was him failing to get the puck out of the zone b/c he wanted to create offense even though they had the lead. His defensive play in that final game really left a bad taste in my mouth in regards to him......though it was along time ago and I only watched it once so I could be wrong.

Cant deny his offensive abilities though.

All I remember is Fleury scoring the game winner, everything else is a blank. His defensive ways could be questioned, but he is a year older and his offensive capabilities and size outweigh any cracks in his defensive play.

 

[Brock]

Wow. Thanks Bob.

Very surprised to see Ladd there over guys like Stone.

Yeah me as well.

I personally don't like that third line, with Ladd playing with Carter and Getzalf. Carter and Getzlaf are such high tempo players, and going by what I've seen from Ladd, I'm not sure he can keep up. I wouldn't be surprised to see Perry take over that spot within the first few games.

And Bob, with the way you set up your line up, are we being led to believe that it's down to either Quincey or Shawn Belle to be cut if Seabrook is indeed healthy?

 

[Flames Draft Watcher]

I personally don't like that third line, with Ladd playing with Carter and Getzalf. Carter and Getzlaf are such high tempo players, and going by what I've seen from Ladd, I'm not sure he can keep up. I wouldn't be surprised to see Perry take over that spot within the first few games.

Ladd keeps up with Getzlaf just fine in the WHL. What's strange is your propose replacing him with Perry who is a worse skater...

 

[markov`]

Corey Perry is god.

His 2 goals were just wonderful yesterday. Now THAT is some stickhandling.

 

[leafaholix*]

Corey Perry is god.

His 2 goals were just wonderful yesterday. Now THAT is some stickhandling.

He's gotten a lot bigger and stronger than his draft year, but his skating is still pretty mediocre.

He's kind of like Kyle Wellwood + a couple inches and 10 pounds.

 

[Vaive-Alive]

Yeah me as well.

I personally don't like that third line, with Ladd playing with Carter and Getzalf. Carter and Getzlaf are such high tempo players, and going by what I've seen from Ladd, I'm not sure he can keep up. I wouldn't be surprised to see Perry take over that spot within the first few games.

And Bob, with the way you set up your line up, are we being led to believe that it's down to either Quincey or Shawn Belle to be cut if Seabrook is indeed healthy?

Ladd and Getzlaf play great together. I doubt Ladd would have made the team if the plan wasn't to play them together. Don't forget the importance of line/team chemistry.

 

[Big Deaner]

Ladd and Getzlaf play great together. I doubt Ladd would have made the team if the plan wasn't to play them together. Don't forget the importance of line/team chemistry.

Apparently they must have forgot about Stone and Fehr then

 

[Brock]

Ladd keeps up with Getzlaf just fine in the WHL. What's strange is your propose replacing him with Perry who is a worse skater...

Perry has improved his skating ten fold since being drafted. While it's still not world class, it's also not a serious downfall. He's also a very elusive player, he finds his way into spots, and his superior stickhandling ability allows for him to make up for a lack of world class speed.

I just don't think Ladd can keep up with Carter and Getzlaf as the third man on that line, in terms of skill, speed, the whole offensive package. I'm going to admit, I've seen Ladd play about 4-5 times and I've never been impressed with him as a player. And the majority of those times were last season, when he was actually playing well. Just because Ladd can keep up with Getzlaf on Calgary, it's a different situation in the World Junior Championships. Faster paced play, better competition, combined with the fact that they don't play with Jeff Carter as the other member of this line up regularily. Jeff Carter is one of the highest tempo offensive forces in the OHL. Everything he does, is at top speed. At last years tourney, Brent Burns played on that line, as another high tempo guy. And it worked reasonably well. And while Perry may not be the best skater on the team, he still remains a high tempo offensive threat. That's why I'd like to see him on that line, to create a line up where all three guys can bring the puck up the ice with ease, and create a high tempo offensive force.

 

[Blind Gardien]

Perry has improved his skating ten fold since being drafted. While it's still not world class, it's also not a serious downfall. He's also a very elusive player, he finds his way into spots, and his superior stickhandling ability allows for him to make up for a lack of world class speed.

Agreed, Perry doesn't look fast, but he doesn't need to be. Guys like Jason Allison don't look fast either, but it doesn't matter.

I just don't think Ladd can keep up with Carter and Getzlaf as the third man on that line, in terms of skill, speed, the whole offensive package. I'm going to admit, I've seen Ladd play about 4-5 times and I've never been impressed with him as a player. And the majority of those times were last season, when he was actually playing well. Just because Ladd can keep up with Getzlaf on Calgary, it's a different situation in the World Junior Championships. Faster paced play, better competition, combined with the fact that they don't play with Jeff Carter as the other member of this line up regularily. Jeff Carter is one of the highest tempo offensive forces in the OHL. Everything he does, is at top speed.

I don't think Ladd needs to keep up with them. Although in terms of pure speed, I don't think he'll struggle as much as you say. But really, per the Can/Russia challenge, all he needs to do is park himself around the goal somewhere and bang a bit in the corners. The way Carter and Getzlaf can gain the zone and control the puck there, Ladd isn't going to need to do anything on the rush, and his lack of speed coming back isn't going to be absolutely essential with that D we have. He can provide a physical presence and chip in some garbage goals that Getzlaf and Carter generate. Or he can cede his place to Perry as you suggest. Either way, I'm not worried.

 

[Vaive-Alive]

Apparently they must have forgot about Stone and Fehr then

I doubt they forgot that. Stone and Fehr are fantastic players and have great chemistry. They also have zero WJC experience. Ladd has zero WJC experience. But he has something that they don't - experience playing with Getzlaf.

I stated that I doubt that Ladd would have made the team if the plan wasn't to play him with Getzlaf.

I'd trust Sutter's option to go with Ladd. Getzlaf has WJC experience, and Sutter was likely looking to give him a linemate - makes sense to have Ladd there since they already have a history. Ladd isn't exactly a benchwarmer from your local rec. league either.

This team is solid. Even without Fehr and Stone .

 

[markov`]

He's gotten a lot bigger and stronger than his draft year, but his skating is still pretty mediocre.

He's kind of like Kyle Wellwood + a couple inches and 10 pounds.

Lol. Sorry but no. I'd take 1 Corey Perry before 2 Kyle Wellwood any day of the week. Perry's game will translate very well to the NHL. He's a little soft but he's bigger than Wellwood. I really like his game, and I feel he is going to be a fan favorite for the Ducks fan with his highlite reel goals.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

An area where Canada has a clear advantage (although it's unknown how it will translate to success in the tournament) is size on defense. Everyone is a monster! Up front it's a little differant. Average weight of the forwards is about 191 lbs.In comparison, the U.S. with a much smaller defense has a similar sized forward group, at 190 lbs.

 

[Hunter74]

Agreed, Perry doesn't look fast, but he doesn't need to be. Guys like Jason Allison don't look fast either, but it doesn't matter.

I don't think Ladd needs to keep up with them. Although in terms of pure speed, I don't think he'll struggle as much as you say. But really, per the Can/Russia challenge, all he needs to do is park himself around the goal somewhere and bang a bit in the corners. The way Carter and Getzlaf can gain the zone and control the puck there, Ladd isn't going to need to do anything on the rush, and his lack of speed coming back isn't going to be absolutely essential with that D we have. He can provide a physical presence and chip in some garbage goals that Getzlaf and Carter generate. Or he can cede his place to Perry as you suggest. Either way, I'm not worried.

I agree with what was said about both players. I dont think Ladd has to actually keep up with Getzlaf and Carter in order to be an effective offensive player. Its not like high tempo speed speed speed is what got Ladd drafted so high in the first place. Ladd will be effective on that line playing his styl of game which obviously Sutter thinks will compliment Carter and Getzlaf the best.

I always get teh impression from people that they think that offense means run and gun when it doesn't always mean that. There are other ways to dominate and score goals besides the way the Oilers did it way way back when.

 

[McDonald19]

Perry's not going to sit in the stands all tournament as the 13th forward. He will either be inserted onto the Crosby line or with Carter and Getzlaf (who he has established chemistry with at Duck tournaments/camps).

 

[190Octane]

McDonald beat me too it.. I was just going to add that Perry and Getzlaf played on a line together in the Ducks rookie camp (with Curtis Glencross rounding out the line) and absolutely tore it up.

Look for the 3rd guy on that line to score a lot of goals as Perry and Getzlaf can dish it. (Glencross lead the tournament in goals)

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Dawes-Richards-Stewart
Crosby-Bergeron-Colliton
Ladd-Carter-Getzlaf
Fraser-Dixon-McArthur
Perry

Phaneuf-Weber
Coburn-Barker
Seabrook(?)-Syvret
Quincy-Belle

Glass
Beauchemin

Looks like that is the team.

Nice picks, but I gotta ask, if you ever did come back to this thread, why would Perry be put as 13th forward? He's got amazing offensive abilities, and is 10x the fit on the Bergeron-Crosby line rather than Colliton. He'd also do good with fellow Ducks prospect Getzlaf IMO.

 

[turnbuckle*]

Well, based on play this season at least, Ladd and Fraser being picked over Stone and Fehr is questionable, but, as an NHL scout explained to me over a couple of pints this evening, you can't blame Sutter for going with his guys. We can always criticize him later, LOL. Nice to see an OHL defenceman in the mix; pretty hard to convince me that a league of the calibre of the 2004-05 OHL can't send at least one Canadian defenceman to the WJC.

I'm still puzzled how Stefan Meyer (a notoriously brutal skater) was even invited to camp over Alex Picard, but those questionable invites seem to happen every year. I don't think Blair MacKasey is the best man for the job of director of scouting, and I'm safe in adding that I'm not alone in that assessment.

Yeah; we always have one of the best teams on paper regardless, but do we always have our best team? Why hasn't Canada won a Gold medal in the past seven years?

I think the problems begin at the top.

 

[THE NEXT ONE #87]

Why plays crosby in the recent games on the wing? i thougt that he is more productive at center. am i wrong??

i cannot understand it.

 

[Big Deaner]

Well, based on play this season at least, Ladd and Fraser being picked over Stone and Fehr is questionable, but, as an NHL scout explained to me over a couple of pints this evening, you can't blame Sutter for going with his guys. We can always criticize him later, LOL. Nice to see an OHL defenceman in the mix; pretty hard to convince me that a league of the calibre of the 2004-05 OHL can't send at least one Canadian defenceman to the WJC.

I'm still puzzled how Stefan Meyer (a notoriously brutal skater) was even invited to camp over Alex Picard, but those questionable invites seem to happen every year. I don't think Blair MacKasey is the best man for the job of director of scouting, and I'm safe in adding that I'm not alone in that assessment.

Yeah; we always have one of the best teams on paper regardless, but do we always have our best team? Why hasn't Canada won a Gold medal in the past seven years?

I think the problems begin at the top.

Well said

 

[Mess]

Nice picks, but I gotta ask, if you ever did come back to this thread, why would Perry be put as 13th forward? He's got amazing offensive abilities, and is 10x the fit on the Bergeron-Crosby line rather than Colliton. He'd also do good with fellow Ducks prospect Getzlaf IMO.

Those lines are TSN's BOB Mackenzies lines not that posters .. he put Perry as the 13th and Colliton on the line with Crosby ..

Brent Sutter was intervied and said the same thing that perry was on the bubble until the last game as Brent Sutter said he got better as the camp went on .. but he is the 13th forward on the roster but will be used as a PP player and injury or struggling player to fill in if needed ..

 

[t0mf00lery]

Why plays crosby in the recent games on the wing? i thougt that he is more productive at center. am i wrong??

i cannot understand it.

Crosby has been playing RW mostly all season with Dany Roussin on the LW and Marc-Antoine Pouliot at centre in Rimouski. I have been to quite a few games and they play that way about 75% of the time and on PPs.