Beauty Hit by Tom Wilson on Carrier

[Son of Nogatco]

I suspect you know, but many other non-Caps fans might not - Wilson calls out warnings to opposing players when he is coming in to to hit them.

Wow props

 

[Moose Head]

If people think this is an illegal hit, then just take hitting out of the game. There have be some questionable things done by Wilson this series that have gone uncalled, but this hit isn’t one of them.

 

[gtrower]

My issue with it is that Habs were given penalties when laying playoff style hits under the guise of "interference" or some other made-up on the fly penalty.

While Wilson gets to do his thing and have an impact without costing his team 2 minutes or more.

You can't have one set of rules for one team and another for the opposing team.

I don't like to blame the refs , but they've been reckless these playoffs with their inconsistent calling of the game.

I won't speculate on my reasons why but at the bare minimum they should be neutral not influencing the outcome of games.

My guy the Caps were given three interference penalties (Alexyev, Dowd, Ovechkin) in this game and not one of them made any sense.

Yall have got to take a step back here. Idk if it’s group think or just a culture that’s ingrained in the fanbase but this narrative that the refs have been against the Habs this series is just insane.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Idk why Anderson continued to go at Wilson all series. Do not rile up a monster like that. They should have just let Wilson go through the motions and kept him sleeping.

Big hit, and Montreal really cant match that level of violence without letting the game get out of their hands

This is such an odd angle as well.

Wilson's hit prior to the Anderson penalty was arguably a charging minor itself. Anderson's response was well done. Wilson was already running around, creating scrums, embellishing to draw penalties... had nothing to do with Anderson or the Habs. Wilson is Wilson. He is going to make his good hits and his bad ones regardless.

This at last was a good one.

 

[GMR]

Oh yeah, this is Stevens on Kozlov type of violence.

 

[gtrower]

Anderson did ask Wilson to drop, Tom didn’t want to. Anderson didn’t want to get a 2minutes when his team is ahead in the 3rd. Next time don’t ask if the refs don’t call it a penalty like it’s supposed to be.

Cropping out the nonsense in the rest of your post, but this part does pose an interesting topic for discussion.

Wilson is given praise for being a top 6 forward talent with bottom 6 forward toughness. But that’s a tough line to walk because after hits like this the opposing team is likely going to chase a fight. But the only guys they’re going to be sending out there to dance with Wilson are going to be bottom liners who have a chance.

So now does Wilson just keep declining fights? Or does he answer the bell and put his team at a disadvantage with a poor trade of players sitting in the box? Wilson for Anderson is objectively a horrible trade for the Caps.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I suspect you know, but many other non-Caps fans might not - Wilson calls out warnings to opposing players when he is coming in to to hit them.

Seems like he is preserving his career after the number of headahot suspensions he had handed out. At least he has adapted somewhat. He knows his next suspension (for a headshot) is 40+.

 

[Michoulicious]

Carrier is concussed according to Dobes.

Means he's out at least 7 days.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Please show the earlier frames and not just the frame that you selected to fit your illegal hit narrative.

From what I saw, Wilson glided into the hit (not jumping), crouched, and tucked his shoulder to bring the point of contact lower. He wouldn’t have done any of that if he was going for the head.

It’s unfortunate there was an injury on the play and I hope he’s ok, but I haven’t seen anything that leads me to believe it was anything more than a very large man winning a physics competition against a much smaller man.

 

[Paddyjack]

Carrier is concussed according to Dobes.

Means he's out at least 7 days.

It was obvious looking at him on the bench, his eyes were vacant. I hit my head on the ice playing hockey without an helmet when I was a kid, and I felt exactly like that afterward. The game was going on and I was not reacting.

 

[BusQuets]

Carrier is concussed according to Dobes.

Means he's out at least 7 days.

This is the worst scenario for the NHL. So called clean hit but the guy receiving gets brain injury. This just means these kinds of hits will be gone in a few years whether you like it or not. Either by league or by someone else after a huge court case.

 

[Paddyjack]

I usually not comment about these anymore, because wah wah blah blah whine whine you get from people eveer time, but of course this hit was neck first. It just doesn't matter, what is done is done, and it sucks for Carrier.

 

[notbias]

curious to see what Anderson or Xhekaj might do in games 5, 6 and 7 keep your primary points of contact up!

It'll probably happen in game 5, but they will likely get eliminated.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

I am once again asking HFboards to recognize that “principal point of contact” hasn’t appeared in the NHL rule book in over a decade. The rule says the head cannot be “the main point of contact”. So you can break out every Zapruder freeze frame you want, it’s meaningless as this is a textbook clean hit.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Cropping out the nonsense in the rest of your post, but this part does pose an interesting topic for discussion.

Wilson is given praise for being a top 6 forward talent with bottom 6 forward toughness. But that’s a tough line to walk because after hits like this the opposing team is likely going to chase a fight. But the only guys they’re going to be sending out there to dance with Wilson are going to be bottom liners who have a chance.

So now does Wilson just keep declining fights? Or does he answer the bell and put his team at a disadvantage with a poor trade of players sitting in the box? Wilson for Anderson is objectively a horrible trade for the Caps.

In 2015 the series with the Islanders was pretty much won on a similar hit. Wilson crushed Visnovsky, the Islanders then spent the next game chasing him and abandoning any game plan, a winnable series was lost.


Why doesn’t Tom fight? Because of exactly this, it’s going to throw the other team off kilter if they’re not mentally strong. He fights enough in the regular season that the “dodges” guys tag is dumb. But this is the entire point of clean and hard hits, force the other team to change their play style. It’s crazy to me that HFboards struggles to understand why a player delivering clean hits and making the other team agitated/distracted wouldn’t want to give them exactly what they want.

Some of the posters here have the strategic sense of a wet fart in a quiet elevator.

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

Was not a penalty and won’t even be a fine. Why, because it was a beautiful clean hit.

 

[Nice]

Laid him out. Props to the refs for not blowing the whistle, devastating but as clean as it can be with a hit that big. It sucks to see your guy get blown up but that's just the nature of the sport

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

I usually not comment about these anymore, because wah wah blah blah whine whine you get from people eveer time, but of course this hit was neck first. It just doesn't matter, what is done is done, and it sucks for Carrier.

I'm a Leafs fan, both teams could be fired into the Sun for all I care. Just telling it how I see it. No whining involved.

 

[NyQuil]

Carrier is concussed according to Dobes.

Means he's out at least 7 days.

Why is Dobes commenting on a player's health?

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

I mean pretty clearly a headshot I thought, especially when you slow it down

 

[Michoulicious]

Why is Dobes commenting on a player's health?

Because he's pissed the guy was concussed and the play still went on...

 

[NyQuil]

Because he's pissed the guy was concussed and the play still went on...

I just didn't know if he had any medical training.

 

[Captain97]

My only question on my this hit was is it charging? Because that rule confuses me at this point as it is almost never called.

So that more of a league get your Sh*t in order problem rather than a this hit problem. Because the way they normally call this it's legal.

Wilson refusing to fight after the hit made me lose some respect for him though. You laid out a smaller player and Anderson wants to go you should go.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Because he's pissed the guy was concussed and the play still went on...

My man has such advanced medical knowledge that he’s able to render a diagnosis from 90 feet away in the span of 30 seconds? Habs must be psyched he’s chosen hockey over curing cancer.


The question remains though, why didn’t he just tell the Habs Thompson would be fine for game 4? Or does his medical super vision top out at 100 feet?

 

[Hostile Offer]

If MSL was intelligent he would park them both on the end of the bench because unlike Wilson, they provide nothing but penalties and hurting their team. At least he was smart enough to bench Laine. Canadians front office should just tell him he need not come back with his absolute pathetic attitude. Dont know how is teammates could stand a guy like that with all the talent in the world putting in zero effort outside his canon shot.

Laine was horrible but he was playing injured. Anderson on the other hand has actually been very good in this series, while Arber is a mixed bag (I personally would prefer Struble but I get MSL wanting to dress Xhekaj to better match the Caps' physicality which we weren't really able to do in the first two games).