What The Hell Has Happened To The Florida Panthers?

[crazy8888]

Basicially Bruno ran with Quenneville's system and it helped panthers to president's trophy. In playoffs he was absolutely helpless against veteran coaches of other teams.

Didint look that helpless against the caps.

 

[waitin425]

Someone gif Paul Maurices head onto the Vince McMahon strut.

Seriously though it's already been said....Marchment and Weegar are bigger losses than expected. Barkov and now Ekblad injuries. Tweak to the chemistry by dropping Hubs for Tkachuk. The dip in production should be expected based on those factors. Keep dipping as far as I'm concerned.

A few months of Chiarot for Bedard will be glorious!!

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

I said it before the season started that the Panthers were one injury away from spiraling down to the bottom of the standings because there top Dman hasn't played a full season and has been injured the last 3 seasons.

I wonder why GM's can't trade coaches for other coaches. Maybe a Maurice for Torts swap would work lol.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

When the trade for chariot was made for future 1st rounder. I wondered why zito didn’t do Top 3 protection
A lot of things can happen in a year. Apparently has.

 

[Dread Clawz]

When the trade for chariot was made for future 1st rounder. I wondered why zito didn’t do Top 3 protection
A lot of things can happen in a year. Apparently has.

They may finish bottom 10 but no way in hell do they finish bottom 3.

 

[Ratsreign]

Why did they hire Maurice again?

He talks reel gud

 

[Dread Clawz]

Didint look that helpless against the caps.

As a fan of Bruno, yeah he did. If Hathaway shoots at that empty net 1 inch to the right, the Caps take a 3-1 series lead in game 4 and that's the series.

 

[General Disarray]

Everyone should have saw the big step back coming. I actually had them missing the playoffs in my prediction. Coaching is a big thing. Winnipeg is the exact same team as last year yet look where they are now. I wonder why...

 

[WolfgangPuck]

They may finish bottom 10 but no way in hell do they finish bottom 3.

They may finish bottom 10 but no way in hell do they finish bottom 3.

Read my post. Top 3 pick selection
Florida currently at 10th last place
Canadiens have additional 5% chance to select 1OA if Panthers finish the season at exact bottom 10

 

[Dr Beinfest]

...No, just no. Cap space is at such a premium in this league that assets like Pacioretty and Bjorkstrand are getting traded for little-to-nothing, and those players are good players signed to reasonable contracts that expire relatively soon. Bobrovsky's contract is unmovable - too much length, too much AAV. It's not like Be a GM mode on the NHL games where you can always force a deal - this is real life where teams are just not willing to take on an anchor of a deal like that with the length that it has. Naturally, because of the enormous AAV of the deal, it will always be a stain that Tallon left behind that is not Zito's fault. So while technically it is true that he didn't run out of cap space because of Tallon, it is also true that Tallon smeared shit on the walls with that deal that will significantly alter the Panthers cap situation for the remainder of the deal.

Wow. The fact that you could lead off with “no, just no” to that is scary. I sincerely hope you’re not responsible for managing any financial books in real life.

It’s not a technicality. It is a reality. If every GM is given up to $100 to spend and you only get $80 because the last guy spent $20, spending $100 anyways and blaming the last guy for the deficit is childish and non-technical. Now as I said earlier, There’s a debate to be had regarding whether or not it was worth it. I’m contending no, it’s not. There’s clear strategic paths that could have been taken to preserve the roster. Most notably, not burning a 1st round pick for Chiarot and using that to instead move Hornqvist, and additionally not mismanaging the Yandle buyout. This is just a SIMPLE form of what could have been done differently to maintain Mason Marchment and/or Mackenzie Weegar.

To simply say this was unavoidable is so childish.

 

[featherhawk]

they traded for M Tkachuk...

when a guy like that is on a team, the team ceases to exist as he is an "I" and "My" type of guy....

 

[Dr Beinfest]

they traded for M Tkachuk...

when a guy like that is on a team, the team ceases to exist as he is an "I" and "My" type of guy....

What the devil are you talking about? This is not the case. Short of being boneheaded and a dick to the other team, it is humorous to see the miss characterization of Tkachuck plastered left and right here.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I said it before the season started that the Panthers were one injury away from spiraling down to the bottom of the standings because there top Dman hasn't played a full season and has been injured the last 3 seasons.

I wonder why GM's can't trade coaches for other coaches. Maybe a Maurice for Torts swap would work lol.

I think they technically can but they don't

 

[Daimon]

Paul Maurice happened

 

[Bleedred]

Speaking as a Leafs fan who watched a team try to win on offense basically my whole life:

You can't outscore your problems indefinitely

I don't understand why people say this though. At least not this year.

They're not scoring nearly as much as last year. It's not like they're blowing everybody up, but also getting blown up on the other end.

 

[Bleedred]

Bob is also no damn good anymore.

Last season was merely an UP year for him, as opposed to the two years before that being down years. Here he is having his third poor season in the last 4 years and he's 34 years old. He ain't any good anymore. And analytically his last season in Columbus was really nothing special and there were already hints of what was to come for him and what has come.

I know Knight was ill and couldn't dress a few games, but they still never went back to him for a while after that. Then they finally put him in against Boston and make no mistake about it, he flat out SUCKED in that game. About 4 of those 7 goals were BAD goals on him. There were a bunch of leaky ones. There were I think two that were like identical to each other and almost scored from the same spot and both went through him at the same spot.

But they really need to turn it back over to Knight and see what he's got. Until they stop placating Bob, I'm skeptical they really wanna get rid of him and move on from him and really wanna find a way to DUMP his contract. Which is what the word was coming into this season.

The team was bad in the Islanders game and allowed over 40 shots, but the game tying goal Bob allowed to Jesper Bratt against the Devils in the 3rd period was a pretty stoppable goal through his left arm. It's not very often at all that you can say that you were the worse goalie in the game when you're going up against a piece of shit like Mackenzie Blackwood.

 

[super6646]

What the devil are you talking about? This is not the case. Short of being boneheaded and a dick to the other team, it is humorous to see the miss characterization of Tkachuck plastered left and right here.

Agreed. I wasn’t a fan of his antics at times, but the characterization some people are making is just plain wrong.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Bob is also no damn good anymore.

Last season was merely an UP year for him, as opposed to the two years before that being down years. Here he is having his third poor season in the last 4 years and he's 34 years old. He ain't any good anymore. And analytically his last season in Columbus was really nothing special and there were already hints of what was to come for him and what has come.

I know Knight was ill and couldn't dress a few games, but they still never went back to him for a while after that. Then they finally put him in against Boston and make no mistake about it, he flat out SUCKED in that game. About 4 of those 7 goals were BAD goals on him. There were a bunch of leaky ones. There were I think two that were like identical to each other and almost scored from the same spot and both went through him at the same spot.

But they really need to turn it back over to Knight and see what he's got. Until they stop placating Bob, I'm skeptical they really wanna get rid of him and move on from him and really wanna find a way to DUMP his contract. Which is what the word was coming into this season.

The team was bad in the Islanders game and allowed over 40 shots, but the game tying goal Bob allowed to Jesper Bratt against the Devils in the 3rd period was a pretty stoppable goal through his left arm. It's not very often at all that you can say that you were the worse goalie in the game when you're going up against a piece of shit like Mackenzie Blackwood.

Should be easy to move him, you still got your 26 27 and 28 firsts right?

 

[Bleedred]

Dale Tallon was kept around way too long for how mediocre to bad of a job he did there. I mean, he was literally one of the longest tenured, do-nothing GM's in the league at the time he was fired. What was he there for? 10, 11 years? Also including that year that he was upstairs still but not really the ''GM'' and was removed for a year, before being reinstated back as the GM.

He did his best work after being reinstated for the Vegas Golden Knights. Too bad he didn't actually work for that team though.

I can't fault Zito much, but sending a first round pick for Chiarot was inexcusable. I don't care how (over)valued that guy is around the league. Just absolutely inexcusable. And it's funny that it didn't take long for his icetime to really drop there and Andrew Brunette and the staff obviously realized ''Yeah, this guy isn't that good. He's not really a top pairing or 20 minutes defenseman''.

They could have gotten a defenseman that was just as good (or really just as not good) for cheaper than that. And they should have been able to get somebody WAYYYYY better than him for that price.

So I have absolutely no issues with him going for it last year in getting Giroux and if he had used a 1st rounder more wisely than on Chiarot, but my issue was who he used it on in Chiarot.

 

[Guardian17]

He talks reel gud

You nailed it.

I noticed the difference immediately with Rick Bowness.

Bowness will give specific answers as to what the Jets do right and wrong.

Bowness is not afraid to call out vets or bench players who are underperforming.

Maurice weaves tales about "veterans being drivers" and waxes poetic on Rod Brind'Amour.

When Maurice talks he reminds me of Billy Flynn in Chicago.

Give 'em the old Razzle Dazzle
Razzle dazzle 'em
Show 'em the first rate sorceror you are
Long as you keep 'em way off balance
How can they spot you've got no talents
Razzle Dazzle 'em
And they'll make you a star!

 

[crazy8888]

As a fan of Bruno, yeah he did. If Hathaway shoots at that empty net 1 inch to the right, the Caps take a 3-1 series lead in game 4 and that's the series.

Dont want to argue with cats fans. If you say he sucks ill take your word for it. Just didint see any glaring coaching issues in that series. If anything i recall caps fans complaining how a rookie coach was out coaching ours.

 

[sr edler]

Guys like Bennett and Reinhart just aren't as great as some people pretend they are. They're nice (but fairly flawed) complementary scorers, just as they were last season when Barkov and Huberdeau were leading the charge and firing on all cylinders, but they're not guys you would want leading your team. Now when Barkov is slumping and injured and Huberdeau is gone, these guys just aren't remotely filling out those roles.

Also lol at the people talking about Duclair, this is a softish journeyman winger who was even healthy scratched for a game last playoffs. If your team's success rests on the shoulders of Anthony Duclair, then big time yikes.

Florida is a flawed run and gun team that got exposed last year's playoffs, and this year's version is even more flawed.

There's also something inherently unsympathetic about brats like Eichel and Tkachuk who bails on their teams because they want to chase gold on already stacked rosters. Vegas crashed and burned in Eichel's first year there, so perhaps it's Florida's turn this year.

 

[featherhawk]

What the devil are you talking about? This is not the case. Short of being boneheaded and a dick to the other team, it is humorous to see the miss characterization of Tkachuck plastered left and right here.

haha, so you think he is a good locker room / moral boosting team guy... OKAY then...his on ice actions and off ice commentary, tell me otherwise

 

[Dread Clawz]

haha, so you think he is a good locker room / moral boosting team guy... OKAY then

He is. He's the only one trying to hold the team accountable right now through the media. He truly cares about the team. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Dread Clawz]

Dont want to argue with cats fans. If you say he sucks ill take your word for it. Just didint see any glaring coaching issues in that series. If anything i recall caps fans complaining how a rookie coach was out coaching ours.

Panthers never really totally adjusted to the Caps' trap. The overwhelming talent on the Panthers just won out in the end. Bruno was totally outclassed by Cooper in the next round. The Panthers also finished something like 1 for 33 on the pp in playoffs. Bruno barely made any adjustments. I do think he can be a good HC one day, he has the right temperament and he's intelligent. But he has a lot to learn.