TSN: What should Bruins do with Milan Lucic?

[Estlin]

I think the most worrisome part of this is how soft this team played last year and in the absence of a Looch, certainly a Quaider, could fans here even accept a potentially even softer Bruins team?

If the team is winning and a contender, then would it matter? Chicago and Tampa, for example, can be considered "soft" teams (not to say that Boston equals them in talent).

Definitely not that either. If anything, for Chia to trade us Yak, we'd have to do Lucic + probably our 14th.

Yeah, I mentioned above that, to get Yakupov and the 16th, Lucic alone wouldn't do it. Boston would have to include Smith, Subban or Seidenberg (possible two of those three).

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I think the most worrisome part of this is how soft this team played last year and in the absence of a Looch, certainly a Quaider, could fans here even accept a potentially even softer Bruins team?

Team needs to add toughness. Not subtract it.

They will fail miserably if they don't (re)establish their identity.

I think Spooner and Pastrnak represent the speed/skill upgrade for next year. Now we need to get a couple of players to give Looch a hand in the toughness department.

 

[RustyBruins72]

Team needs to add toughness. Not subtract it.

They will fail miserably if they don't (re)establish their identity.

I think Spooner and Pastrnak represent the speed/skill upgrade for next year. Now we need to get a couple of players to give Looch a hand in the toughness department.

That's a really good post.

couldn't agree more!

 

[BMC]

If McQuaid stays healthy and Kevan Miller comes back healthy there is some toughness right there.

 

[bb_fan]

I think the most worrisome part of this is how soft this team played last year and in the absence of a Looch, certainly a Quaider, could fans here even accept a potentially even softer Bruins team?

I keep hearing this, and I keep asking myself, 'Is Lucic the only guy left in the league capable of physical play'?

Its not that I want to see him gone, but whether he stays or goes this summer (or next year), the team needs to add some pieces like the McQuaid's (and thornton's) and Lucic's.

The team is soft as charmin with or without Lucic if nothing else is added.

 

[Sheppy]

If McQuaid stays healthy and Kevan Miller comes back healthy there is some toughness right there.

McQuaid is probably not coming back.

 

[bp13]

We just watched a Stanley Cup Final that was loaded with slick passing, great transition games, aggressive forechecking and talent throughout both lineups, and yet here we are talking about toughness again. I don't get it. This must just be a Boston obsession that is never going away.

 

[Sheppy]

We just watched a Stanley Cup Final that was loaded with slick passing, great transition games, aggressive forechecking and talent throughout both lineups, and yet here we are talking about toughness again. I don't get it. This must just be a Boston obsession that is never going away.

We're talking about toughness because it WAS an issue with this team this year. Too many people are worried about what other teams are doing, and how other teams look. Who gives a **** how Tampa Bay and Chicago play, the fact is, Boston management can't start going around saying "Hmmm, well these guys are soft but won a bunch of games, we should model our team after them" or "Dang, that team is fast, we should be exactly like those guys" - If you're constantly trying to pick a team and trying to model your play style after them, you'll never find success.

Boston was a tough team, won a cup with a tough team, made the finals with a tough team and missed the post season with a soft team.

 

[Salem13]

McQuaid is probably not coming back.

I raise an eyebrow to this only because of Sweeney.

Because Adam is almost like a quiet Donny that fights.

 

[Lobster57]

We just watched a Stanley Cup Final that was loaded with slick passing, great transition games, aggressive forechecking and talent throughout both lineups, and yet here we are talking about toughness again. I don't get it. This must just be a Boston obsession that is never going away.

The two things aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Lobster57]

We're talking about toughness because it WAS an issue with this team this year. Too many people are worried about what other teams are doing, and how other teams look. Who gives a **** how Tampa Bay and Chicago play, the fact is, Boston management can't start going around saying "Hmmm, well these guys are soft but won a bunch of games, we should model our team after them" or "Dang, that team is fast, we should be exactly like those guys" - If you're constantly trying to pick a team and trying to model your play style after them, you'll never find success.

Boston was a tough team, won a cup with a tough team, made the finals with a tough team and missed the post season with a soft team.

exactly. Chasing trends and trying to be like team X leaves you continually playing catch up.

 

[nickyb]

We're talking about toughness because it WAS an issue with this team this year. Too many people are worried about what other teams are doing, and how other teams look. Who gives a **** how Tampa Bay and Chicago play, the fact is, Boston management can't start going around saying "Hmmm, well these guys are soft but won a bunch of games, we should model our team after them" or "Dang, that team is fast, we should be exactly like those guys" - If you're constantly trying to pick a team and trying to model your play style after them, you'll never find success.

Boston was a tough team, won a cup with a tough team, made the finals with a tough team and missed the post season with a soft team.

This

 

[Spanky185]

We're talking about toughness because it WAS an issue with this team this year. Too many people are worried about what other teams are doing, and how other teams look. Who gives a **** how Tampa Bay and Chicago play, the fact is, Boston management can't start going around saying "Hmmm, well these guys are soft but won a bunch of games, we should model our team after them" or "Dang, that team is fast, we should be exactly like those guys" - If you're constantly trying to pick a team and trying to model your play style after them, you'll never find success.

Boston was a tough team, won a cup with a tough team, made the finals with a tough team and missed the post season with a soft team.

welcome to sports, where every league is a copycat league. Team A does something and wins a championship, almost every other team in the league is going to try and copy that. That is true in football, baseball, basketball, formula 1, etc. There's no reason hockey would be any different.

 

[BruinDust]

exactly. Chasing trends and trying to be like team X leaves you continually playing catch up.

Very true.

While there are definitely take-aways from the successful teams of this past season, to try and model the Bruins after someone else is folly. Can't keep chasing trends.

Remember after the Wings in 2008 and Chicago 2010. Teams saw how Chicago and Phildadelphia made the finals, and Detroit winning a cup, without goaltenders people considered "elite" the concensus was the way to manage the cap was to not spend top money on goaltenders. Then they watched Thomas in 2011, Quick in 2012, and the notion went back the other way. Trends change too quickly now to go chasing one.

 

[Ladyfan]

Good Lord...another trade Looch thread...

I would sign him on Boston and trade Krejci.

 

[DKH]

Good Lord...another trade Looch thread...

I would sign him on Boston and trade Krejci.

they trade Krejci and Bergeron misses time with an injury

who are the Bruins 4 centers?

the answer is they are picking top 5 in the draft but the good news is a good 35% of the fans dump the Bruins and we get back to no sell outs, smaller bathroom lines and HF Boards losses a good 50-75% of the members who don't want to be associated with a bunch of losers (not kidding, this site had days with not one post 10 years ago)

so yes, trade Krejci- I'm all for seeing the Spooner and Koko duo

of course the 30 year old Bergeron will just play forever and do 82 games a year

 

[neelynugs]

they trade Krejci and Bergeron misses time with an injury

who are the Bruins 4 centers?

the answer is they are picking top 5 in the draft but the good news is a good 35% of the fans dump the Bruins and we get back to no sell outs, smaller bathroom lines and HF Boards losses a good 50-75% of the members who don't want to be associated with a bunch of losers (not kidding, this site had days with not one post 10 years ago)

so yes, trade Krejci- I'm all for seeing the Spooner and Koko duo

of course the 30 year old Bergeron will just play forever and do 82 games a year

if they traded krejci, they'd have to re-sign soderberg. i think that's the only way it could work, and also the return for krejci would have to be a good defenseman (or a top 5 draft pick that will return a potential stud D or F). i'm not against that move at all. but once soderberg is officially gone, i don't see how you can deal krejci without really robbing peter to pay paul.

 

[BruinDust]

if they traded krejci, they'd have to re-sign soderberg. i think that's the only way it could work, and also the return for krejci would have to be a good defenseman (or a top 5 draft pick that will return a potential stud D or F). i'm not against that move at all. but once soderberg is officially gone, i don't see how you can deal krejci without really robbing peter to pay paul.

If they traded Krejci (and not saying they should) I'd rather they went with Bergeron-Spooner-Khokhlachev than re-sign Soderberg at anywhere close to his market value.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

I raise an eyebrow to this only because of Sweeney.

Because Adam is almost like a quiet Donny that fights.

Won't mean a damn thing if Quader wants 3m+

 

[Rumpy]

We just watched a Stanley Cup Final that was loaded with slick passing, great transition games, aggressive forechecking and talent throughout both lineups, and yet here we are talking about toughness again. I don't get it. This must just be a Boston obsession that is never going away.

It has been proven that there isn't one type of way or team that can win. The Flyers and Bruins win with tough and tumble. The Habs and Oilers win with diving and talent. If you want to cheer for one of those teams be my guest but I'll stay a Bruins fan and expect them to do it a certain way... Just cause Chicago won with speed and finess doesn't mean next year it won't be Calgary or Anaheim.

 

[DKH]

if they traded krejci, they'd have to re-sign soderberg. i think that's the only way it could work, and also the return for krejci would have to be a good defenseman (or a top 5 draft pick that will return a potential stud D or F). i'm not against that move at all. but once soderberg is officially gone, i don't see how you can deal krejci without really robbing peter to pay paul.

I don't like what the pieces of the puzzle are showing- Loui being moved.

They got 5 guys in their P-R-I-M-E....37, 63, 46, 17, and 21 and they need to go for it. They can sign Hamilton for a 2 year 9 M deal which is fair as hell, and come in with a $1 M for Spooner and a little more for Connolly and be under the Cap assuming they don't resign McQuaid and Soderberg. They can actually fit in McQuaid if he comes in around $3. If they moved Kelly they are clear easily.

There is ZERO, ZERO, ZERO chance they move Krejci.

hey, they can trade him but its flat out moronic and one Bergy injury and they are heading south faster than the titanic.

Soderberg is good but you cant hitch your wagon to this guy. He is a classic third line center and played higher you are in trouble

anyone who wants to trade Krejci tell me the plan- what you are getting and who Boston centers are

 

[neelynugs]

I don't like what the pieces of the puzzle are showing- Loui being moved.

They got 5 guys in their P-R-I-M-E....37, 63, 46, 17, and 21 and they need to go for it. They can sign Hamilton for a 2 year 9 M deal which is fair as hell, and come in with a $1 M for Spooner and a little more for Connolly and be under the Cap assuming they don't resign McQuaid and Soderberg. They can actually fit in McQuaid if he comes in around $3. If they moved Kelly they are clear easily.

There is ZERO, ZERO, ZERO chance they move Krejci.

hey, they can trade him but its flat out moronic and one Bergy injury and they are heading south faster than the titanic.

Soderberg is good but you cant hitch your wagon to this guy. He is a classic third line center and played higher you are in trouble

anyone who wants to trade Krejci tell me the plan- what you are getting and who Boston centers are

if bergy gets hurt, they are screwed regardless.

i do agree - i think soderberg is an elite 3rd line offensive center. but i also think that spooner can fill that role as the #2 guy. moving krejci obviously hurts you offensively, but would improve your D assuming the return was good.

 

[Gee Wally]

You have to be strong up the middle from the net on out.

I dont care what era it is or what style is employed. That basic tenet is and always will be gospel.

 

[DKH]

If they traded Krejci (and not saying they should) I'd rather they went with Bergeron-Spooner-Khokhlachev than re-sign Soderberg at anywhere close to his market value.

they better hope Bergeron plays 82 super well

and fire Claude now- he wont be able to go with Spooner and Koko

if Sweeney for one second was trading Krejci he would have fired Claude and hired a coach that works well with kids and is willing to lose

trading Krejci, they need to go all the way- trade Lucic and Eriksson, and since they will be a long shot to make the playoffs for a few years will be wasting Bergeron 30-34 years

 

[BruinDust]

if bergy gets hurt, they are screwed regardless.

i do agree - i think soderberg is an elite 3rd line offensive center. but i also think that spooner can fill that role as the #2 guy. moving krejci obviously hurts you offensively, but would improve your D assuming the return was good.

That's the issue, I don't see Krejci being able to bring back any D-man whose in that Top 25 range. Not a knock on Krejci I just don't see any of them available.

If they can find a capable D-man (preferably RD) it would help but I don't think they need to move Krejci to do it.