TSN: What should Bruins do with Milan Lucic?

[BruinDust]

they better hope Bergeron plays 82 super well

and fire Claude now- he wont be able to go with Spooner and Koko

if Sweeney for one second was trading Krejci he would have fired Claude and hired a coach that works well with kids and is willing to lose

trading Krejci, they need to go all the way- trade Lucic and Eriksson, and since they will be a long shot to make the playoffs for a few years will be wasting Bergeron 30-34 years

Claude would lose his mind with Spooner AND Koko in the Top 9.

I just don't want to see Soderberg back, never was impressed with him, he's a 3rd line center, and will be an over-paid 3rd line center come this summer. Gimme a year of Koko on his ELC before I see Soderberg back here, even if it's in no way ideal.

I agree if they move Krejci it's just as well move Lucic and Eriksson and tear it down. No half measures.

 

[DKH]

if bergy gets hurt, they are screwed regardless.

i do agree - i think soderberg is an elite 3rd line offensive center. but i also think that spooner can fill that role as the #2 guy. moving krejci obviously hurts you offensively, but would improve your D assuming the return was good.

if Bergeron gets hurt for the season or months yes, but I'm talking a 2 week injury which is much more likely than season ending.

They lose Bergeron for 8 games they could hang in there and split with Krejci, Spooner, and Koko, but when your top 3 is going to be Spooner and Koko and Kelly, and no number one center- you put amazing stress all over

I think its stupid but I see a silver lining- getting rid of all the fake, phony front runner fans

The Red Sox now offer student tickets for $9 (you think in 2010 anyone would have ever thought that?)

The Celtics offer season tickets starting in the $20's...four years ago the balcony seats were going for 4 times that

when the Bruins suck they will have student tickets at $15 and the $99 Christmas packages will come back

quickest way to do this is trade the core guys like Krejci, Lucic, and Eriksson and thin it all out

one thing that is very, very, very, very, very apparent from here is 90% of the posters dislike one of 17, 46, or 21 and they want them out of here. They have no idea who is coming back- they usually have a star player or elite prospects

 

[DKH]

Claude would lose his mind with Spooner AND Koko in the Top 9.

I just don't want to see Soderberg back, never was impressed with him, he's a 3rd line center, and will be an over-paid 3rd line center come this summer. Gimme a year of Koko on his ELC before I see Soderberg back here, even if it's in no way ideal.

I agree if they move Krejci it's just as well move Lucic and Eriksson and tear it down. No half measures.

Soderberg was teetering on 'meh' to me....trade Krejci and trade Lucic, and really why not deal Bergeron as well- just blow it up

 

[NightmanCometh]

Good read, interesting stats. I'd advise against scrolling down to the comments section though, unless you're in the mood for an aneurysm.

 

[BNHL]

if bergy gets hurt, they are screwed regardless.

i do agree - i think soderberg is an elite 3rd line offensive center. but i also think that spooner can fill that role as the #2 guy. moving krejci obviously hurts you offensively, but would improve your D assuming the return was good.

Didn't even know it was possible to group these words together.

 

[LouJersey]

Smith or Eriksson out . kelly traded,

Lucic stays . Beleskey or Stewart added. Boll comes over for Kelly , miller stays and McQ leaves

 

[bp13]

You have to be strong up the middle from the net on out.

I dont care what era it is or what style is employed. That basic tenet is and always will be gospel.

I would agree wholeheartedly and that's why I keep coming back to Lucic.

This team is strong down the middle with good goaltending. However, the defense isn't good. Other than moving Lucic, I haven't heard any other decent options to freeing up the significant amount of money needed to both extend Hamilton and sign at least one more top 4 D, which is what they need. So I keep coming back to moving a guy they are already overpaying, will be looking for even more money, and who would net a very good return. That's Lucic.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

If the Bruins trade Lucic they do need a decent winger coming this way... They're deep at center and weak at RW. If we give up Lucic then they're weak at both wings.
I don't know enough about other teams situations but what I for see would be something surrounding a 2nd round pick and a 3rd line winger.
Edit: that's if we trade him this off season, teams won't give up as much knowing our cap situation, which is obvious we know.

 

[Ice Nine]

I would agree wholeheartedly and that's why I keep coming back to Lucic.

This team is strong down the middle with good goaltending. However, the defense isn't good. Other than moving Lucic, I haven't heard any other decent options to freeing up the significant amount of money needed to both extend Hamilton and sign at least one more top 4 D, which is what they need. So I keep coming back to moving a guy they are already overpaying, will be looking for even more money, and who would net a very good return. That's Lucic.

If what you say is true, however, is moving Lucic alone enough? You need space for Hamilton. Space to re-sign Eriksson. Space for another top 4 D. And then you need space, presumably, for a player to fill the 20+ goals that Lucic has (normally) scored for us. And we still have that Iginla/Seguin/Horton hole that we never really got around to filling either.

We have holes all over the place, and no cap flexibility. And Peter Chiarelli gets to draft Connor McDavid.

The night is dark and full of terror.

 

[DKH]

I would agree wholeheartedly and that's why I keep coming back to Lucic.

This team is strong down the middle with good goaltending. However, the defense isn't good. Other than moving Lucic, I haven't heard any other decent options to freeing up the significant amount of money needed to both extend Hamilton and sign at least one more top 4 D, which is what they need. So I keep coming back to moving a guy they are already overpaying, will be looking for even more money, and who would net a very good return. That's Lucic.

I do not want to deal him however if Calgary or Nashville are sick of Chicago this is a guy who would put them over. Lucic fits perfect wirh Calgary and with their arch rivals getting McDavid this would be a big move. I'd rather keep Lucic and think they will but I agee bp13 he's the guy who would being back multiple pieces

 

[DKH]

If what you say is true, however, is moving Lucic alone enough? You need space for Hamilton. Space to re-sign Eriksson. Space for another top 4 D. And then you need space, presumably, for a player to fill the 20+ goals that Lucic has (normally) scored for us. And we still have that Iginla/Seguin/Horton hole that we never really got around to filling either.

We have holes all over the place, and no cap flexibility. And Peter Chiarelli gets to draft Connor McDavid.

The night is dark and full of terror.

Pastrnak & Connolly are two first rounders who are very young and play RW. I like what they got going on here

 

[BB88]

I do not want to deal him however if Calgary or Nashville are sick of Chicago this is a guy who would put them over. Lucic fits perfect wirh Calgary and with their arch rivals getting McDavid this would be a big move. I'd rather keep Lucic and think they will but I agee bp13 he's the guy who would being back multiple pieces

I hope that if Calgary would be honestly interested than then Chia would join the fight, not wanting to see Lucic go to Calgary and that would mean a higher return for us.

Pastrnak & Connolly are two first rounders who are very young and play RW. I like what they got going on here

Also we can add another strong wing prospect with our 1st round pick this year, but again I'd like yo see Yakupov shooting one timers from Krecji pass and giving us better skating at the same time.

Koko-Yakupov-Spooner-Pasta with speed+scoring, then the rest can be 2way/physical players.

 

[DKH]

I hope that if Calgary would be honestly interested than then Chia would join the fight, not wanting to see Lucic go to Calgary and that would mean a higher return for us.



Also we can add another strong wing prospect with our 1st round pick this year, but again I'd like yo see Yakupov shooting one timers from Krecji pass and giving us better skating at the same time.

Koko-Yakupov-Spooner-Pasta with speed+scoring, then the rest can be 2way/physical players.

I'd stay away from Yakupov and other Russians

 

[TwineTickler]

if bergy gets hurt, they are screwed regardless.

i do agree - i think soderberg is an elite 3rd line offensive center. but i also think that spooner can fill that role as the #2 guy. moving krejci obviously hurts you offensively, but would improve your D assuming the return was good.

Couldn't agree more nugs. That's the move to make... Or one of them at least. I hope Sweeney has to balls to pull it off and hopefully the yield is as good as I think it could be. I would be all boned up.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Smith or Eriksson out . kelly traded,

Lucic stays . Beleskey or Stewart added. Boll comes over for Kelly , miller stays and McQ leaves

I think Beleskey's going to end up with a stupidly big deal like Clarkson. I want no part of that. Stewart I could stomach depending on the deal. I could handle the rest of these moves, even though I'd rather keep McQuaid.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Smith or Eriksson out . kelly traded,

Lucic stays . Beleskey or Stewart added. Boll comes over for Kelly , miller stays and McQ leaves

Belesky at most tied Eriksson last season, playing with better players, and Stewart outscored Smith by 1. That's basically lateral, and I can't imagine either one of them are going to be much cheaper than Smith. Basically, not all that interested in Stewart. And I have a feeling Belesky is gonna get paid.

If are able to get either on reasonable contract, and we can move one of Smith or Eriksson for a defenseman, I'd be ok with that. But I almost feel like... why don't we just sign a defenseman?

I'd take Boll; don't know how much that will cost.

I still think our defense needs to get fixed as our top priority. If we can somehow upgrade Krug and/or Seidenberg, that would be ideal.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Where did this Yakupov+16th for Lucic come from? It seems one sided if oilers believe Yakupov will break out.

 

[vjcsmoke]

Where did this Yakupov+16th for Lucic come from? It seems one sided if oilers believe Yakupov will break out.

Who says Yakupov will break out? And who says the Bruins would want to trade Lucic for Yakupov?

If the B's are trading Lucic, they should target Hall, not Yakupov. They might have to add to the deal, but trading for Yakupov makes no sense as he is too unproven to help the B's offense get back on track.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Where did this Yakupov+16th for Lucic come from? It seems one sided if oilers believe Yakupov will break out.

Reporter/fan speculation?

Yakupov very well may end up the weakest link in Edmonton's top picks. I still think they are better off moving him for a defenseman instead of a winger, but that's just me. I'm also not sold on him; I think he does pull off a couple good seasons eventually, but I think he'll be a fringe star at best.

As for the deal, totally depends on how both teams view the situation. Does Edmonton believe in Lucic and think they can lock him up? Does Sweeney think Yakupov can put it together?

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Who says Yakupov will break out? And who says the Bruins would want to trade Lucic for Yakupov?

If the B's are trading Lucic, they should target Hall, not Yakupov. They might have to add to the deal, but trading for Yakupov makes no sense as he is too unproven to help the B's offense get back on track.

The B's aren't acquiring Hall short of overpaying AND including Hamilton, with aging Chara and Seidenberg, and no other defenseman with top pairing potential in our system, I pass on that.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Who says Yakupov will break out? And who says the Bruins would want to trade Lucic for Yakupov?

If the B's are trading Lucic, they should target Hall, not Yakupov. They might have to add to the deal, but trading for Yakupov makes no sense as he is too unproven to help the B's offense get back on track.

I'm just going based on the comments in the thread. I saw it mentioned a few times but I'm doubtful Oilers would do that.

As for Lucic for Hall, good luck with that one.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Reporter/fan speculation?

Yakupov very well may end up the weakest link in Edmonton's top picks. I still think they are better off moving him for a defenseman instead of a winger, but that's just me. I'm also not sold on him; I think he does pull off a couple good seasons eventually, but I think he'll be a fringe star at best.

As for the deal, totally depends on how both teams view the situation. Does Edmonton believe in Lucic and think they can lock him up? Does Sweeney think Yakupov can put it together?

From a neutral perspective I'd rather Yakupov and the pick. It's cost effective, has higher potential and can result in 2 players over 1, both being younger.

Depends the team though. If bruins HAD to make a trade for Lucic for cap reasons that's a good one but I don't see Oilers interested.

Post it on main board I guess, I just don't see it.

 

[ashnathan]

I think Beleskey's going to end up with a stupidly big deal like Clarkson. I want no part of that. Stewart I could stomach depending on the deal. I could handle the rest of these moves, even though I'd rather keep McQuaid.

Belesky is gonna be Bickell 2.0

 

[Latrappe]

Well, if the Bruins want to compete and be a perennial contender, they have to clean Chiarelli's cap mess. Trading #17 and another player ( probably Eriksson ) is the fastest way to do so. I understand that some fans want to keep Lucic but we have to stop to live in the past and pretend that he's a game changer because he's not anymore. #17 was a pleasure to watch but the Bruins need to re-shape the roster in a league who value speed and skills way much more then aggression and physicality. It's a business decision the same way as players decide to test the market and accept the best offer from another team.

 

[Man Rocket]

Well, if the Bruins want to compete and be a perennial contender, they have to clean Chiarelli's cap mess. Trading #17 and another player ( probably Eriksson ) is the fastest way to do so. I understand that some fans want to keep Lucic but we have to stop to live in the past and pretend that he's a game changer because he's not anymore. #17 was a pleasure to watch but the Bruins need to re-shape the roster in a league who value speed and skills way much more then aggression and physicality. It's a business decision the same way as players decide to test the market and accept the best offer from another team.

I still think it comes down to Krejci vs Lucic. One has to go. My heart wants to keep Lucic and deal Krejci, but my brain says keep Krejci and deal Looch. Lucic is my favorite Bruin and 2 years younger, but Lucic can fetch more in a trade and will be getting a huge contract as well, let someone else give it to him.

Center's are more important and 60-70p two way ones are hard to come by (although so are throwback PWF..). Although Krejci is 29 and just starting a 7 year deal with a 7.25m cap hit, full NMC. That's going to be scary down the road.

Bottom line - Unless by some miracle we can deal Kelly + one of Smith/Eriksson/Seids and manage to fit Hamilton + Spooner + Connolly under the cap, then Sweeney has to deal one of Krejci or Lucic. At this point i don't care which one.