TSN: What should Bruins do with Milan Lucic?
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HuskyBruinPride
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no chance he will be worth anything over 5. trade him while he still holds value. we will see another ****** year from milan...but the excuses will be awesome. his dog was sick; he had a sore forearm all year; he had plantars fasciitis; his gloves just didn't fit right this year; his lucky stick was stolen; dalton prout gave him nightmares...the excuses this guy gets are so humorous. a third line talent playing on a top line. but people are willing to give him 7 per year. wow. he got the 6 per year because the thought was he would develop into a top talent. he just isn't. at 5 per year i am fine, anything above that, which we all know it will be, is going to handcuff this team. so i expect them to re-sign him. at least the next several draft years are good.
Sheppy
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Why not wait until the deadline? I think that's probably the smart thing to do here... give him 60 games to prove his worth.
Ice Nine
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You won't get any quality pieces in return at the deadline because only contending teams will acquire Lucic for a Cup run and they're not going to trade away proven talent on such a run. Bruins have to decide before the draft, IMHO.
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not sure about this.
It depends on what kind of quality pieces you are looking for.
If you are looking to get back established players then I think you are correct and trading him at the draft is the way to go.
If you are looking to get picks/top teir prospects I think you will get more at the deadline as a team that wants to make a push at the cup at that point is more willing to give up futures for that last piece that will put them over the top. Those should still be considered quality pieces.
bb_fan
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you mean like this past year with Soderberg?
If we are a bubble team heading into the playoffs I doubt they unload Lucic.
Hali33
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If the Bruins are in any sort of a playoff position, no way they trade Lucic at the deadline, IMO.
And then you lock yourself into either losing him for nothing at the end of the season (unacceptable for the value he carries) or you're going to have to resign to avoid that. And if he does bounce back next season it won't be pretty.
Needs to be taken care of this off season, whichever way they choose to go here.
And then you lock yourself into either losing him for nothing at the end of the season (unacceptable for the value he carries) or you're going to have to resign to avoid that. And if he does bounce back next season it won't be pretty.
Needs to be taken care of this off season, whichever way they choose to go here.
Sheppy
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True enough. I'd just hate to see them get back a 15 goal scorer, a 10 goal scorer and a #6 d-man for the guy.
Hali33
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It would be ridiculous if you guys did not field offers for this guy. Physical players go on the decline earlier in their careers. His next contract won't be cheap either.
Mainehockey33
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Yakapov and the 16th overall is a pretty enticing trade. Look at Chicago, speed and talent are things we should be adding. I wouldn't trade Lucic for spare parts but I think that is a good trade that could add two potential game changers to the team. Yak-Krejci/Spooner-Pastrnak is the first line we're looking for.
You can get more trading Krejci and his contract. The Yotes would LOVE him. This team without Lucic would be terribly pathetic. Some on here are acting like he was the only player who sucked. Everyone sucked. Even Bergy wasnt himself. We can't be afraid of the unknown with Lucic. Its not his fault Chia put us in this position. Chia has overpaid many on this team. And there are other players we can trade for cap space, not named Milan Lucic.
We trade him and we're looking like fools just like the Seguin and Boychuk trade. We're better WITH him on the team than without him.
Sheppy
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It's my biggest fear to be honest.
Boston trades player A who's a 30 + goal scorer
Boston receives Player B, Player C and Player D who combine for 32 goals.
Boston logic, "WOO THESE 3 OUTSCORE OUR GUY BY 2 GOALS! WE WIN THE TRADE!"
Mainehockey33
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I'm glad I'm not in charge of deciding who goes. Trading Lucic or Krejci could give us some good players and it's probably worth doing.
Estlin
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Both of you are right. The time to trade Lucic is now.
I like the idea of getting Yakupov and the 16th overall pick; however, I think that Boston may have to add something to the deal, given that Lucic will be entering the final year of his contract. Who or what that would be, I don't know. Seidenberg? Smith? Subban?
Yak slotting left of Krecji or Spooner would be pretty sweet...
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Yeah I do agree with that. I don't want to sacrifice speed/skill/defensive awareness. Maybe a guy like Belesky? Promote Randall to 12th/13th forward? Maybe Connolly can grow into a Horton-lite. It think it would help to balance the top 9 with guys like Spooner/Pasta looking to take on more prominent roles. It's all about having multiple ways to attack. Way too much vanilla for my liking last season. I guess my point is that we shouldn't be pinning all our hopes on one guy to carry the "hard to play against" flag, if the rest of the roster doesn't fit that mold.
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Question: if the Bruins were to trade Lucic to another team right now, could they allow that team to negotiate a new contract with him? Can the Bruins even resign him yet, or do they have to wait until the free agency period? I know you can sign a free agent a year in advance like Bergeron was, but I'm a bit hazy on the period in which you're allowed to do that. Bergeron was signed a week into the UFA period in 2013, although I'm not sure that matters. It would be nice to get it done ahead of the draft to open all those assets up.
It's hardly about Lucic being an asset or not. Lucic is a quality player and a quality asset but he's not worth the money.
I agree that Lucic is not responsible for the team's woes but understand that these physical guys go on the decline quicker than finesse players. Which power forward type plays until 42? Selanne does it, Jagr does it, Ray Whitney plays until he's old.
Yet, you don't hear about tough guys lasting that long.
So do you pay lucic another overpaid extension(or potentially lose him if you don't) or do you try to flip him for a re-tool while his value is still relatively high?
Of course Krejci and the rest can be better but the impending downfall is only applicable with Lucic. It's not about today or tomorrow, it's about the days after that.
Kaoz
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They have a desperate need for a top end center, Gagner and Hanzal aren't going to get it done for them. I'd add Krejci to your list of potential enticing pieces, and he might fetch the #3 overall alone.
A move like that would really depend on whether or not you believe Spooner, Bergeron, or Soderberg (assuming they can retain him because of the cap savings now) slot into that 1b/2 spot behind Bergeron but it certainly could be interesting. Alleviates the cap issues, solidifies mitigation plan for Chara's eventual decline, unclogs the C pipeline so guys like Khokhlachev and Spooner have room to develop.
The issue is does it negate Boston from competing right away. Can they compete right away regardless?
Extensions can be made after free agency/July 1st for players on multi year deals.
For players who signed a one year deal, extensions can only be made in January(about mid point of season).
Unless it changed!
Is there actually any evidence of this? I think that might be a common occurrence for undersized forwards going all out physically, but Lucic is a 6-4 230. Even then he's not been an all out every shift guy since the age of 20/21. Since those days he's posted three seasons of about 25 goals/60 points. He's not yet suffered any chronic issues that I'm aware of?
Lucic just turned 27 a week ago. He's 6 months older than Pacioretty. The notion that he's on his hockey deathbed is ridiculous IMO. I wouldn't sign him past 33 or so years, but that's 7 years away. 5 or 6 years is a good term.
I'd hardly call one bad season an "impending downfall", nor do I see him on the decline at all. Truth is, if they had the $$ to keep Iggy, Lucic would have put up big numbers with him again. I dont see this impending doom people are talking about. I'd try to resign him. If you can't, you wait until the trade deadline. Its what they should have done with Boychuk. Lucic is going to be fine next year. I want him on this team as long as possible I'd you can't resign him.
Hopefully Sweeney and Lucic can come to an agreement. He's not a guy I'd be trading that's for sure. There are many other guys on this team that should go.
Kaoz
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Tkachuk played till he was 37 and was still dropping 20+ goals a season at 36. Guerin played until he was 38 and was still potting 20+. I don't think anyone put his body on the line more then Scott Stevens and he played until he was 40.
Not sure I agree with the premise that physical players are forced to retire early.
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