... ok? Kempe had 41/36 67 points in 82, matthews had 40/45 85 in 74 lol stop.
matthews is 100x the player kempe will ever be or has been
Value of: What is the "plus"? Kempe Danault Byfield Durzi (plus?) for Matthews (plus?)
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matthews is 100x the player kempe will ever be or has been
Leafs don't get nearly that much for an upcoming UFA, even if it's Matthews.
Maybe something like Byfield, Arvidsson, Iafallo, Walker, 1st.
Maybe something like Byfield, Arvidsson, Iafallo, Walker, 1st.
Arvidsson/Iafallo/Moore + Byfield/Vilardi + Pinelli + Kings 2024 1st + Kings 2023 2nd
Horvat without a contract was about the same as
Arvidsson/Iafallo/Moore + Pinelli + 1st
Byfield/Vilardi + 2nd is arguable light relative to the gap between Horvat and Matthews.
Can't see the Kings being able to afford Matthews' 11M+ deal without at least two of Arvidsson/Iafallo/Moore and Walker going the other way.
They are already going to be pushing up against the cap this off-season, assuming they re-sign Korpisalo or sign a different goalie to be their starter.
Unless there is a huge jump in salary cap one year (like in the NBA when Durant signed with Golden State), I don't think signing a big name (money) UFA is going to be good for a franchise. Teams will be better off re-signing their own super stars since it is less of a "shock to the cap" for the franchise. In order for a team like LA to sign Matthews, they'll have to restructure/overhaul their entire team to do it. Toronto might have to cut cap, but it'll be a player or two maybe. As good as AM is, I think it'll really mess with a cap team's structure and waste a few years of the contract while the new team restructures around the player. He'd make a bigger impact on a bottom team, and if their prospects aren't in the NHL yet he could be surrounded by young talent on ELC's, and those teams are the ones that will have salary cap space without moving out major contracts.
For this deal, can LA put together enough depth to win around DD/Kopi/Fiala/Matthews with the remaining salary cap? Especially if they trade out some of their youth. Some of the young guys would have to step up before the old guys (DD/Kopi) decline too much in order for them to be legitimate contenders.
For this deal, can LA put together enough depth to win around DD/Kopi/Fiala/Matthews with the remaining salary cap? Especially if they trade out some of their youth. Some of the young guys would have to step up before the old guys (DD/Kopi) decline too much in order for them to be legitimate contenders.
kilowatt
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When did I ever say Kempe was better than Matthews?
If we're guaranteeing that Matthews is going to sign with LA after the trade, this is a different conversation. As it stands, we're talking about trading at least three really good players for one season of Matthews.
If Matthews really does want to come to LA, then signing him as a UFA anyway would be the time to do it, because Kopitar's $10 million will be off the books. The Kings would also need to buy out Petersen, let Arvidsson walk, trade Iafallo, and make a few more moves to be able to afford the salary he'll command.
lanceuppercut75
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The OP has Matthews signing a long-term extension to play for Los Angeles.
It's pretty clear at his point that people just read the thread title and don't read the OP.
SmoggyTwinkles
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I don't know man, but if he hasn't been extended before July 1st, Leafs better f'n trade him to the highest bidder. And I love Matthews.
Is there anything even out there that Matthews is dead set on L.A.?
If he's dead set on going to a USA team, Leafs could get a sweet package I'd imagine. But if he's going to force himself to one team, that changes everything.
Yet there's no indication that I'm aware of that he isn't going to extend with the Leafs,
But if he's not extended by July 1st Leafs better have him dealt for the best offer.
If he's not set on a destination, and he's not re-signing with the Leafs, how would he come with an extension in a trade? These made up scenarios make 0 sense
SmoggyTwinkles
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He has a NMC kicking in on July 1st.
He literally has an "exit if I feel like it, and you can't trade me unless I agree" deal that kicks in on July 1st.
Matthews has a ton of power with his next contract/destination, assuming he refuses to extend or be moved.
His agent could say even if traded before July 1st, he has no intention of considering signing with the team he's traded to until he has to.
It could be a bad situation, and the Leafs need to get the most they can.
But maybe they get the extension, or maybe they call his bluff and he extends, or he totally screws the Leafs and that is totally his right to do that. We can't read his mind.
Same scenario as Tavares. He doesn't owe anyone anything. Just like us, we will (if we're smart) put ourselves into the best situation we can as far as employment. The loyalty thing is a personal choice.
So basically you agree, that him being dealt to LA with an extension for a massive overpayment, as outlined in the OP, is outlandish right?
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And Morgan Rielly has 2 seasons better than prime Doughty's peak point totals Rielly > Doughty?
Why are you trying to compare career years to the down years of a superstar?
That just means that they need to be traded, not necessarily that they need to be included in this particular trade.
Of course a certain amount of money would most likely be going the leafs way, but the Kings would have off-season flexibility.
SmoggyTwinkles
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I've forgotten what the OP deal was.
I'm saying, if he hasn't signed an extension before July 1st, he needs to get moved for the best deal Leafs can get before the NMC kicks in. Simple as that.
If that's picks and prospects, or roster players doesn't matter.
The guy went for a 5 year deal with a NMC in the final year, clearly wanting to keep his options open.
He either re-signs, or you get something for him, probably decently significant. Don't let an asset like that walk for nothing, that would be dumb.
kilowatt
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Why are you so upset at my fact? I never said Kempe was that better player.
What I am implying is that constructing a roster with the best contracts you can find is, in my opinion, a key ingredient to winning a cup.
dracom
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i keep seeing people say anaheim, umm why? there's be no link between Matthews and Anaheim. he's just not a great fit
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Kings fans thinking this package is worth and extended Matthews or Leaf fans thinking Mo is better than prime Doughty, I don't know which is more neauseauting of a take. All of y'all need to lay off the hard stuff.
This can't be a real post. The simulation needs a reboot or something.
This can't be a real post. The simulation needs a reboot or something.
BigBadBruins7708
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One player at 13-15m per or 4 players altogether at that price? LA isn't making that deal easy
dracom
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what mine? matthews is an elite player but anaheim never gets the huge FAs, he's never mentioned wanting to play here, and we have our guys we need to re-sign plus need to save cap for whoever we draft like potentially Bedard. it's not a good fit so I don't know why OP keeps mentioning Anaheim as a possible destination
lanceuppercut75
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The OP doesn't specify who is adding or how much, so it's hard to say "overpay" if there could theoretically be four 1st round picks added.
