Value of: What is Columbus going to do with Peeke?

[Crede777]

What would his trade value be?

Based on your response, I assume CBJ would probably take a 2nd rounder for him and run.

If he ends up struggling in camp and beginning of season not being a regular in lineup, I imagine his value would plummet

I think his trade value will be predicated on his play through camp. Again, if he plays well enough to secure a spot in the top-6, then it'll be pretty high and Columbus will keep him. If he doesn't, then it will be quite low and they'll either trade him for pennies or waive him.

 

[Diamonddog01]

I’ve wanted Peeke on the Canucks for a while now - not sure what the return would look like though. I suspect a player like Hoglander coukd work, while a Peeke for Garland trade is perfect for the Canucks I doubt CBJ would be remotely interested.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

I only think Peeke is moved for a silly deal for Columbus right now. He seems like a Babcock type player and eats up pucks on the PK and 5v5. Throw out last year and see what the new coach thinks. Not saying he won't be moved but I think they're is enough interest that the price would be higher than expected. Columbus doesn't have to move him based on contracts with the rest of the D

You know what else eats up pucks when he's on the ice? the back of the net.

 

[ohnoeszz]

Peeke is not what Canuck fans wish he was. The guy simply doesn't think the game at a super high level while playing - he is a take the man defensemen that maximizes his physicality at the cost of a more measured game. He can be useful but really needs a babysitter. If you think Myers makes bad over-aggressive reads...

Look at how CBJ went and got Severson at high value with Peeke, Jiricek and Boqvist already in place. He might improve the decision making and puck management side of things to become a solid player as he ages but he's just as likely to always have glaring issues as a bit of a bonehead.

 

[WannabeFinn]

I would gladly move Peeke for a draft pick or two. Doesn’t make much sense to trade him for a roster player though.

 

[moody1122]

What will they do with him?

I am assuming they will play him on defense

 

[Xoggz22]

You know what else eats up pucks when he's on the ice? the back of the net.

Yup, could be said for the entire team last year. Not even worth looking at the tape. We'll see what happens in camp.

 

[biturbo19]

I just don't see any reason for Columbus to move Peeke. Certainly not in any kind of hurry.


Werenski-Severson
Provorov-Peeke
Bean-Gudbranson

*Boqvist as the spare and rotates through as Babcock sees fit.

Blankenburg goes down to the AHL.

Where's the problem?



Maybe down the road if/when Jiricek is absolutely kicking the door down for an NHL spot. But they've got plenty of time to work with, not shoehorning him into the NHL roster while they sit back and assess what they have here with all the changes they've made, new guys, new coach, getting Werenski back from injury.

 

[Viqsi]

I just don't see any reason for Columbus to move Peeke. Certainly not in any kind of hurry.


Werenski-Severson
Provorov-Peeke
Bean-Gudbranson

*Boqvist as the spare and rotates through as Babcock sees fit.

Blankenburg goes down to the AHL.

Where's the problem?



Maybe down the road if/when Jiricek is absolutely kicking the door down for an NHL spot. But they've got plenty of time to work with, not shoehorning him into the NHL roster while they sit back and assess what they have here with all the changes they've made, new guys, new coach, getting Werenski back from injury.

There's a lingering suspicion that that "kicking the door down" moment may be at the start of this year. That's most of what prompts it. Either way, though, that still suggests a "wait and see" approach.

(Also, Blankenburg is wonderful and awesome and doesn't deserve demotion but he just can't stay healthy... )

 

[SI]

There's a lingering suspicion that that "kicking the door down" moment may be at the start of this year. That's most of what prompts it. Either way, though, that still suggests a "wait and see" approach.

(Also, Blankenburg is wonderful and awesome and doesn't deserve demotion but he just can't stay healthy... )

I think Jiricek has a very strong chance of making this team. They could rotate Boqvist and Bean on the bottom pair with Gudbranson. Not to mention Blankenburg who is still waiver exempt and Bjork who mostly likely will be waived (and in IMO, claimed).

peeke does seem to be the odd man out. I think Van could use someone like Peeke - $ would have to move out.

 

[CBJx614]

You know what else eats up pucks when he's on the ice? the back of the net.

Last season was his second full season in the NHL.

He was one of 5 players to play more than 50 games on the ENTIRE DEFENSE last season. The other 3?

Gudbranson(3rd pairing who played first pair minutes), Gavrikov, Berni(borderline 7/8) and Beyreuther(borderline 7/8


Much like Gudbranson, Peeke was playing way above his weight class last season. He was leaned on in situations he had no business being on the ice for, but we simply didn't have any other options. He'll be properly sheltered and used this season. Trading him now is selling low.

 

[majormajor]

Maybe. I'm not a huge fan but hearing Babcock mention his as a RD with size, etc. sounds like he at least wants to view him in camp. Maybe it doesn't happen, maybe it does. He's a bottom pair or 6/7 guy that has some nice traits but he's been unable to consistently put them on display due to team injuries, too high in the lineup, slow starts, bad mix, just not capable... Something has held him back but maybe Babcock unlocks something instead or maybe Jarmo sells before we see what happens.

Honestly, I think there is too much made around a guy that is unlikely to every be a consisten 2nd pair guy and most likely fighting for playing time on whatever team he plays for. I hope he puts it together but I don't think there are enough tools to worry about whether he stays or goes.

Peeke without the puck is fantastic. He shuts down plays and eats pucks like Savard did.

He's just really bad on breakouts, last year he was asked to do a lot of long tape to tape passes and he couldn't find them. He needs to be allowed to give it to his D partner or have a simple up the wall breakout. We weren't doing that last year and it killed his game, just as it would if say, Brandon Carlo was put in that position.

I think properly used he's a fine #4 D, the type a lot of teams could really use.

No offense but is he not that good and overrated by this board if we’re talking about whether he can crack a spot in BJ’s lineup?

Have you seen Severson and Gudbranson's contracts? Then you've got Boqvist, Blankenburg, and Jiricek coming up at RD.

I just don't see any reason for Columbus to move Peeke. Certainly not in any kind of hurry.


Werenski-Severson
Provorov-Peeke
Bean-Gudbranson

*Boqvist as the spare and rotates through as Babcock sees fit.

Blankenburg goes down to the AHL.

Where's the problem?



Maybe down the road if/when Jiricek is absolutely kicking the door down for an NHL spot. But they've got plenty of time to work with, not shoehorning him into the NHL roster while they sit back and assess what they have here with all the changes they've made, new guys, new coach, getting Werenski back from injury.

That might be our lineup ultimately - I'd be really curious to see a Provorov-Peeke pair and Babs has talked him up. But it's not really easy peasy to scratch Adam Boqvist or Blanks. We're not even sure if we'll be able to send Jiricek down if he takes a step this summer.

I don't really care too much about maximizing assets at this point late in the rebuild, so it's a good problem to have, but one of Boqvist or Peeke is likely to be sitting a lot and that will hurt the asset value.

 

[M2Beezy]

I agree with the OP that a deal around Peeke for Garland would work for BOTH teams. Something like this could really seal the deal:

To Columbus: Garland, Studnicka, Juulsen, 2026 6th round pick

To Vancouver: Peeke, 2024 4th round pick

 

[stevo61]

I agree with the OP that a deal around Peeke for Garland would work for BOTH teams. Something like this could really seal the deal:

To Columbus: Garland, Studnicka, Juulsen, 2026 6th round pick

To Vancouver: Peeke, 2024 4th round pick

Why does this work for Columbus exactly? Just looks like a bunch of cap and contracts to Columbus to me

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

IMO, Boqvist is the odd man out.

 

[Fro]

I agree with the OP that a deal around Peeke for Garland would work for BOTH teams. Something like this could really seal the deal:

To Columbus: Garland, Studnicka, Juulsen, 2026 6th round pick

To Vancouver: Peeke, 2024 4th round pick

Columbus can't add to the roster rn...they are probably looking at a package deal for a better C

 

[GeeoffBrown]

It’s simple, there’s only 3 kinds of bottom pair dmen:

A) I’ve heard of him so obviously he’s in decline
B) He’s a 4A guy and will be gone in a season or two
C) He’s an up-and-comer, so he’ll be 1st pair soon

Gudbranson is clearly category (A), so therefore he must be old.

I think Gudbranson is more of a useful player who is currently being paid about 3x as much as he should be.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

It doesn't seem Vancouver has plenty of pieces that they would be willing to give up and Columbus would be interested in getting. Peeke by itself is probably worth a 2nd round pick or more and Jackets don't really need another middle-six winger.

Maybe it could work somehow if there was a third team involved.

Our next 2nd isn't until 2026 but I'd move it for him, even with Willander, Hronek, Bruchnevich(SP) and the rumour we have a deal with Bear. We need to load up on that position especially one further along in development

Not sure what the jackets left side looks like but we have a few like Rathbone and Truscott that could be part of a deal.
Rathbone has serious potential but took a step back last year after being a ppg in 30 AHL games in 21-22.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

I feel like CBJ are going to wait until Babs can work with everyone to see who he wants. I feel like Bean is the odd man out. If it is Peeke though I think a 2nd would suffice.

Peeke makes more sense but he just seems like a Babcock type player.

 

[Mr Kot]

Am I the only one thinking they should just keep him, or why he seemingly always a trade target?

 

[tunnelvision]

Our next 2nd isn't until 2026 but I'd move it for him, even with Willander, Hronek, Bruchnevich(SP) and the rumour we have a deal with Bear. We need to load up on that position especially one further along in development

Not sure what the jackets left side looks like but we have a few like Rathbone and Truscott that could be part of a deal.
Rathbone has serious potential but took a step back last year after being a ppg in 30 AHL games in 21-22.

LD depth chart for next year will probably look something like this:

Werenski - established 1LD
Provorov - established 2LD
Bean - could be anything between 3LD and AHL D

Svozil - likely an AHL guy next year, but has 2LD upside
Christiansen - likely a career AHLer, 6/7D upside
Knazko - same as Christiansen

And in the pipeline there's of course a high-end prospect Mateychuk (2LD upside) who will be heading back to WHL for another year, and at least a couple solid B/C-level prospects (Makarov, Richard).

I don't know a lot about Rathbone and Truscott, but judging by a brief search I suspect they don't hold much more value than Christiansen and Knazko. I think the Jackets would be more interested to add a >6'1 LD with higher upside and better shut-down skills than any of the aforementioned 4 prospects seem to possess.

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Do you think would Allvin consider trading Vancouver's '24 1st (with protection) for Peeke and CBJ '24 2nd?

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

LD depth chart for next year will probably look something like this:

Werenski - established 1LD
Provorov - established 2LD
Bean - could be anything between 3LD and AHL D

Svozil - likely an AHL guy next year, but has 2LD upside
Christiansen - likely a career AHLer, 6/7D upside
Knazko - same as Christiansen

And in the pipeline there's of course a high-end prospect Mateychuk (2LD upside) who will be heading back to WHL for another year, and at least a couple solid B/C-level prospects (Makarov, Richard).

I don't know a lot about Rathbone and Truscott, but judging by a brief search I suspect they don't hold much more value than Christiansen and Knazko. I think the Jackets would be more interested to add a >6'1 LD with higher upside and better shut-down skills than any of the aforementioned 4 prospects seem to possess.

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Do you think would Allvin consider trading Vancouver's '24 1st (with protection) for Peeke and CBJ '24 2nd?

While I'm guessing most of the fanbase who seem allergic to trading 1st round picks will piss and moan, I think if Alvin saw a potential top 4 guy that would be the kind of deal that fits with the moves he's previously made and I think it's fair.
Peeked is already ahead of any 2024 pick development wise which fits with the core better and lines up with guys like Raty, Lekkerimaki, Klimovich, EP2.0 etc.

Personally I think it's a fair deal for both sides

 

[tunnelvision]

While I'm guessing most of the fanbase who seem allergic to trading 1st round picks will piss and moan, I think if Alvin saw a potential top 4 guy that would be the kind of deal that fits with the moves he's previously made and I think it's fair.
Peeked is already ahead of any 2024 pick development wise which fits with the core better and lines up with guys like Raty, Lekkerimaki, Klimovich, EP2.0 etc.

Personally I think it's a fair deal for both sides

It's still unlikely that a deal like that would actually occur because, based on the comments from Kekalainen and Davidson in the last months, Jackets seem desperate to be more competitive next year, so they probably try to ensure they'll have enough NHL bodies in case injury bug starts spreading again. Some dmen might be in and out of the lineup all season long and their trade value may plummet as a result but it is what it is.

Anyway, I will remember this little conversation if CBJ keeps Peeke and he ends up being nothing but a 7D in the long run (because I'm a fan who likes to complain every time my team does something I think was dumb lol).

 

[HockeyWooot]

As others have been also been curious from a Vancouver perspective. Hoping he could be a potential compliment for Quinn Hughes, thinking of a Methot partner to Karlsson.

Realistically he may not be that kind of player but rather a physical, stay at home defenseman that can play up during injuries.

I don't think a trade would happen until after training camp as others have mentioned.

My proposal would be: Garland, Juulsen for Peeke and Robinson

 

[Dr Quincy]

I agree with the OP that a deal around Peeke for Garland would work for BOTH teams. Something like this could really seal the deal:

To Columbus: Garland, Studnicka, Juulsen, 2026 6th round pick

To Vancouver: Peeke, 2024 4th round pick

Juulsen and Studnicka would both be waived, and CBJ doesn't need a winger.