Line Combos: What happens when Lars comes back?
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i say, let's see what he can do first. But we are seing the true. It is not his usage as much as himself.
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Oops meant "Many feel" not "fear" -- I've seen this argument here: that if we have a surplus of centres then we should trade Plekanec or Eller because the return would be better than if we ship Desharnais for next to nothing.
some are lacking confidence in Bergevin. What a nightmare this forum would be if the mighty Lars would be traded.
Another tall blond Nordman would replace him: DLR !
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You have almost 22k posts here and you're the one asking this question? Dude, you're kidding?
You're totally ****ing with us, right?
CristianoRonaldo
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Another tall blond Nordman would replace him: DLR !
Et oui, c'est la vie, DD n'a pas sa place, dans ce club il est presque inutile
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I disagree about this being 'many'.
That being said, trading Eller for say Ovechkin vs trading DD for say a 7th rounder I'd rather have DD+Ovechkin than Eller+7th rounder obviously. However, such a scenario is unlikely. I can't imagine any logical trade would have people siding on keeping DD based on the return for Eller.
I'm not. I don't see how there's "many" who feel this way.
There's no point in trying to predict the future during the season as so many things change.
Andrighetto's only played 1 game and because he scored people are ready to give him a spot. I'm a fan of his but it will take some time to see if he's ready.
Having said that, if Andrighetto, Hudon and Bournival get significant time when there are injuries, and are impressive, this could push lazy/unproducing vets like Desharnais, Parenteau and Prust out of the lineup.
Andrighetto's only played 1 game and because he scored people are ready to give him a spot. I'm a fan of his but it will take some time to see if he's ready.
Having said that, if Andrighetto, Hudon and Bournival get significant time when there are injuries, and are impressive, this could push lazy/unproducing vets like Desharnais, Parenteau and Prust out of the lineup.
NobleSix
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Fixed that for you.
In all seriousness though, DD probably goes back up to the first line to join Pacioretty and the habs continue their subpar play.
No one knows how long Eller is out for, and people already worrying about what happens when he's back.
It's something I'd worry about 2 weeks before he's due to be back. If he's out for 3-4 months, why worry about March/April? Worry about December/January/Febuary instead. If the habs from here on out play .700+++ hockey with the lines as projected (Pens are playing .722 for comparison, so I'm setting the bar pretty high) with advanced stats backing up the wins , sorry to Lars, but I wouldnt change anything. I'm pretty sure even MB would sit him down and say "look, the team is playing amazing, everything is clicking, we're not in any position to change anything. You're an integral part of the teams future, thats why I signed you long term, but as long as the team is playing like this, theres no reason to change anything".
It's something I'd worry about 2 weeks before he's due to be back. If he's out for 3-4 months, why worry about March/April? Worry about December/January/Febuary instead. If the habs from here on out play .700+++ hockey with the lines as projected (Pens are playing .722 for comparison, so I'm setting the bar pretty high) with advanced stats backing up the wins , sorry to Lars, but I wouldnt change anything. I'm pretty sure even MB would sit him down and say "look, the team is playing amazing, everything is clicking, we're not in any position to change anything. You're an integral part of the teams future, thats why I signed you long term, but as long as the team is playing like this, theres no reason to change anything".
Not sure whats so funny about that?
My situation is obviously hypothetical, but the fact you'd suggest tampering with a lineup thats playing .750 hockey with advanced stats to back it up, just because Eller is out and DD is in, talk about blinding hatred.
The above has nothing to do with Eller having a greater skillset than DD, but at that point, if that happened, you're suggesting tweaking something thats not broken.
My situation is obviously hypothetical, but the fact you'd suggest tampering with a lineup thats playing .750 hockey with advanced stats to back it up, just because Eller is out and DD is in, talk about blinding hatred.
The above has nothing to do with Eller having a greater skillset than DD, but at that point, if that happened, you're suggesting tweaking something thats not broken.
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... Say that Eller comes back in 2 months, and that in these two months, Desharnais plays 21 games, gets, say, 3 goals and 10 assists, have positive advanced stats, and is used like 3rd centers are normally used (not that much PP time), with the possible exception of zone deployments.
Meanwhile, in those 21 games, the team go 14-4-2-1.
DD will absolutely keep his spot in the lineup and Eller... well, will be there somewhere, but not in his Center spot. At least I hope so. Because in that situation, it would mean that our Top-3 centers are likely playing well.
If the team goes 8-11-0-3...
DD will probably REGAIN his old spot in the lineup, while Lars Eller will take his old 3rd C spot, because if he posts the numbers above, and the team doesn't get good results and Carey Price isn't otherwise crapping the bad, it would mean that the guys above him on the depth chart aren't playing like they should be playing.
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Of course, if Desharnais as the 3rd line C is average or worst (and Galchenyuk is otherwise good), well, Eller regains his old spot and DD will have to duke it out at wing. Galchenyuk might also be moved back to wing for Eller when Eller comes back. Wouldn't exactly be a productive move, but that's possible if that's what makes the team better.
Underlined : Actually, in that case, Eller would probably replace Galchenyuk in the Top-6.
Meanwhile, in those 21 games, the team go 14-4-2-1.
DD will absolutely keep his spot in the lineup and Eller... well, will be there somewhere, but not in his Center spot. At least I hope so. Because in that situation, it would mean that our Top-3 centers are likely playing well.
If the team goes 8-11-0-3...
DD will probably REGAIN his old spot in the lineup, while Lars Eller will take his old 3rd C spot, because if he posts the numbers above, and the team doesn't get good results and Carey Price isn't otherwise crapping the bad, it would mean that the guys above him on the depth chart aren't playing like they should be playing.
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Of course, if Desharnais as the 3rd line C is average or worst (and Galchenyuk is otherwise good), well, Eller regains his old spot and DD will have to duke it out at wing. Galchenyuk might also be moved back to wing for Eller when Eller comes back. Wouldn't exactly be a productive move, but that's possible if that's what makes the team better.
Underlined : Actually, in that case, Eller would probably replace Galchenyuk in the Top-6.
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Sorry Bud,
I couldn't help myself.
The win rate was one thing the analytics another but the Sorry Mr. Eller brought it out.
A player who has played second fiddle to DD forever now being told he can't have his 3rd line spot back.
Trade me very much would be his response.
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MB is no dummy, he will have DD moved. Especially if Ghetto stays up. In my opinion he's already more useful than DD.
Sorry Bud,
I couldn't help myself.
The win rate was one thing the analytics another but the Sorry Mr. Eller brought it out.
A player who has played second fiddle to DD forever now being told he can't have his 3rd line spot back.
Trade me very much would be his response.
If we have a strong record with our lineup, then yhea. Eller will wait
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